Since Loi originally was the underdogs with hellstorm as the main power, 0uter.Heaven came to assist. 0uter.Heaven helps everyone in the alliance time and time again. Grow to be self sufficient and when we actually need help we get kicked.No explanation no farwell statements just kicked. Some *friends* we had. Anyways 0uter.Heaven is looking for a new alliance hit me up.

Since Loi originally was the underdogs with hellstorm as the main power, 0uter.Heaven came to assist. 0uter.Heaven helps everyone in the alliance time and time again. Grow to be self sufficient and when we actually need help we get kicked.No explanation no farwell statements just kicked. Some *friends* we had. Anyways 0uter.Heaven is looking for a new alliance hit me up.

Not many left. If u want to help EoN. I got your back on that.


IO is kinda the outcast of EoN. So I know where ya coming from.

Stop attacking everyone nikita, everyone's mind in EoN. right now.

Edit: Good side is that everyone loves to participate in PC, but i mean their has to be a limit on the amount of attacks being truthful.

Heed these words Nik if you don't want the same fate as OH

Since Loi originally was the underdogs with hellstorm as the main power, 0uter.Heaven came to assist. 0uter.Heaven helps everyone in the alliance time and time again. Grow to be self sufficient and when we actually need help we get kicked.No explanation no farwell statements just kicked. Some *friends* we had. Anyways 0uter.Heaven is looking for a new alliance hit me up.

Look at the bright side. You can attack IE now.

Look at the bright side. You can attack IE now.

0uter.Heavens' intent wasn't to help even the balance within LOI. Luckily, we have had one of your alts Radar in Hellstorm for some time and grew to love playing together. Your corp had a vote when it was first started, most and I won't say all of them mentioned linking up with LOI. Help the alliance: you send in your guys when the alliance needed them, yes. However, when ideas of helping other corporations take districts for them, you guys were nowhere to be found. I mentioned the war with ROFL almost a month ago, as of last week you actually started attacking the 2 of 9 districts that ROFL had left. A month ago... seriously? And your going to claim that you help the alliance. Evenly I would say the alliance supported your battles as much as you supported us.

First ideas of LOI:
- To claim Bosena: Talked the day before PC came out, all agreed to take Bosena. WarRavens, Hellstorm and Molon Labe. had claimed districts their, we were right next to the Cronos. donut at that time. What does 0uter.Heaven do? Runs to Osvetur for reasons beyond us.

Growing faster than needed:
- Initial attacks on Osvetur: The alliance was busy still attacking/defending Bosena before re-locating itself to what was ROFL territory. Our biggest fear from day was, was to not double up timers until we knew we had the willpower to do so. 0uter.Heaven: hit's multiple districts around the same time calling for alliance support, wasn't necessarily hard to do, but alliance having same timers for PC on attacks/defends, we came to your aid first because your opponents were more notable.

Attack on Hellstorm:
- The week before the attack Radar had initiated on Hellstorm, Radar mentioned to me that he wanted to set up a fight. I was cordial and agreed with it, talked about making it a weekly ordeal and I had told Radar we would need to wait to get the alliance situated in the territories we were still hitting and possibly with the release of Uprising 1.2. He had agreed to these terms, mainly on the terms of setting up a battle with both parties involved. Kira Lannister (sorry to throw you in the mix) was in a squad with Radar the day the attack was initiated, Kira had mentioned it's nice to have the week off of PC. The days before the squad of Kira and Radar had taken place, I was talking with Radar about giving my guys the week off. Radar then goes to attack us, the day before the PC battle, I get the luxury to be in his squad. I ask him about the attack and I quote, "I wanted to catch you off guard, I didn't want to give your guys time to prepare."
- - Personally, I didn't blow my steam when I heard this. However, when Punisher and Phoenix had saw the initiated attack and asked if it was scheduled, with the obvious answer or "No.", they were beyond pissed. Big back-stab to us essentially
- - - To top this off: Hellstorm wins, and then Radar has the balls to go on the forums to boast how 0uter.Heaven is still #1 here. As you can read from the posts surrounding this event, I personally feel like Radar should have no excuse for losing, and I also feel like whether he wanted to catch us off guard etc., he should of had the upper hand by filling a full 16.

Attack on TeamPlayers:
- 0uter.Heaven had attacked TeamPlayers, unsure of the exact date at this time, but when attacking TeamPlayers there was supposed messages sent to big wigs in TeamPlayers about it being 'friendly' fights. However, when talking to members out of TeamPlayers, nobody knows of these proclaimed messages. So now, 0uter.Heaven calls for alliance support for something they got themselves in. Coincidence? Think not. Our alliance values stand strong, if Hellstorm was to partake in these battles (which we did after we had talked to leaders of TeamPlayers and they gave us the OK), the EoN. and LOi war would of been official. 0uter.Heaven knew we were still finishing off ROFL, still situating the alliance in the new districts. And as an alliance stand point, we can not allow one corporation in the alliance to pull the whole alliance in without prior consent.

... wut?

STOP Poaching our members hellstorm. before i go and start picking some pockets ;)

BTW 99.9% of stuff said here is false. cept for the teamplayers stuff and the attack on you stuff. speaking as part of a corporation that has offered both its ground forces AND its EvE side to the other corporations. and who got NO eve help and barely any help on the ground in return, its been fun but bigger is always better. ;)

lol like anyone would take a corp hopper seriously. You've probably just confirmed everything Kujo is saying to be true if anything.

But please - tear down his post and explain how it's wrong. I'd love to read your clan hopping opinion.

... wut?

STOP Poaching our members hellstorm. before i go and start picking some pockets ;)

BTW 99.9% of stuff said here is false. cept for the teamplayers stuff and the attack on you stuff. speaking as part of a corporation that has offered both its ground forces AND its EvE side to the other corporations. and who got NO eve help and barely any help on the ground in return, its been fun but bigger is always better. ;)

lol i got my offer too kujo, mr.WholierThanThou, i turned it down. it was downright messed up what you guys did to the corp. when i first joined it was because i wanted to be in L.O.I and close to hellstorm. then you kept showing truer and truer colors and look at you now. lol. your just a ticking time bomb. kicking your most loyal and truest members to a filler corp? yet leave the guys who had joined MAYBE a month ago because they were your new "A-team"?

psh, blue donuts. YOU ARE THE BLUE DONUT. i knew this was gunna happen, but i thought hellstorm was supposed to be the good guys. whatever, i look forward to the good fights of the future.

and to hellstorm. still love you guys, stay sexy ;)

lolol your lies are sweet as candy - i bet you begged to join OH like you beg to join everywhere else.

And even I know what that corp transfer was about - if you don't then you shouldn't talk about it.

Stop spilling your stupid onto the forums again - we have enough of it in General Discussions.

lol i got my offer too kujo, mr.WholierThanThou, i turned it down. it was downright messed up what you guys did to the corp. when i first joined it was because i wanted to be in L.O.I and close to hellstorm. then you kept showing truer and truer colors and look at you now. lol. your just a ticking time bomb. kicking your most loyal and truest members to a filler corp? yet leave the guys who had joined MAYBE a month ago because they were your new "A-team"?

psh, blue donuts. YOU ARE THE BLUE DONUT. i knew this was gunna happen, but i thought hellstorm was supposed to be the good guys. whatever, i look forward to the good fights of the future.

and to hellstorm. still love you guys, stay sexy ;)

What are his true colors? I dont get it.

Ticking time bomb? Hellstorm isnt going anywhere..we both know that. Not only is it because we win..a lot, but its because we all are real cool with each other. We play well together and have fun doing it. No offense to any individual in OH because i still like you all..except when youre flaylocking me...jk jk lol..but seriously..cut that **** out lol. In response to Rampages comment, Ill give you 3 guesses at who implodes first..OH or HS..and your first two guesses don't count.

Those loyal members went to the temporary holding corp...and guess what? their loyalty remained strong because they stayed there, and as soon as the game mechanic was fixed they were back in HS.

Here's a question, would you rather be the star quarterback in the NFL on a team who doesnt make the playoffs or be a back up quarterback on an NFL team who wins the super bowl? That should hopefully help you understand why those members who were in that holding corp..stuck it out.

Dont like the supposed 'blue donut' you claim we are? Try and do something about it then ;)

I would rather be the Quarterback that played for a less talented team and makes it to the top together..