Radar R4D-47
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.07.09 19:30:00 -
[2] - Quote
0uter.Heavens' intent wasn't to help even the balance within LOI. Luckily, we have had one of your alts Radar in Hellstorm for some time and grew to love playing together. Your corp had a vote when it was first started, most and I won't say all of them mentioned linking up with LOI. Help the alliance: you send in your guys when the alliance needed them, yes. However, when ideas of helping other corporations take districts for them, you guys were nowhere to be found.(No one asked but we helped molane labe do just that when they asked.) I mentioned the war with ROFL almost a month ago, as of last week you actually started attacking the 2 of 9 districts that ROFL had left. A month ago... seriously? (]We attacked RoFL at the start) And your going to claim that you help the alliance. Evenly I would say the alliance supported your battles as much as you supported us. (Isn't that what an alliance is for?)
First ideas of LOI:
- To claim Bosena: Talked the day before PC came out, all agreed to take Bosena. WarRavens, Hellstorm and Molon Labe. had claimed districts their, we were right next to the Cronos. donut at that time. What does 0uter.Heaven do? Runs to Osvetur for reasons beyond us. Our reasons were training origionally but the timers that SI had on Bosena were untochable by 0.H making us unable to then go to bosena like HS wanted
Growing faster than needed:
- Initial attacks on Osvetur: The alliance was busy still attacking/defending Bosena before re-locating itself to what was ROFL territory. Our biggest fear from day was, was to not double up timers until we knew we had the willpower to do so. 0uter.Heaven: hit's multiple districts around the same time calling for alliance support, wasn't necessarily hard to do, but alliance having same timers for PC on attacks/defends, we came to your aid first because your opponents were more notable.
Attack on Hellstorm:
- The week before the attack Radar had initiated on Hellstorm, Radar mentioned to me that he wanted to set up a fight. I was cordial and agreed with it, talked about making it a weekly ordeal and I had told Radar we would need to wait to get the alliance situated in the territories we were still hitting and possibly with the release of Uprising 1.2. He had agreed to these terms, mainly on the terms of setting up a battle with both parties involved.Kira Lannister (sorry to throw you in the mix) was in a squad with Radar the day the attack was initiated, Kira had mentioned it's nice to have the week off of PC. The days before the squad of Kira and Radar had taken place, I was talking with Radar about giving my guys the week off. Radar then goes to attack us, the day before the PC battle, I get the luxury to be in his squad. I ask him about the attack and I quote, "I wanted to catch you off guard, I didn't want to give your guys time to prepare."
- - Personally, I didn't blow my steam when I heard this. However, when Punisher and Phoenix had saw the initiated attack and asked if it was scheduled, with the obvious answer or "No.", they were beyond pissed. Big back-stab to us essentially
- - - To top this off: Hellstorm wins, and then Radar has the balls to go on the forums to boast how 0uter.Heaven is still #1 here. As you can read from the posts surrounding this event, I personally feel like Radar should have no excuse for losing, and I also feel like whether he wanted to catch us off guard etc., he should of had the upper hand by filling a full 16.
Attack on TeamPlayers:
- 0uter.Heaven had attacked TeamPlayers, unsure of the exact date at this time, but when attacking TeamPlayers there was supposed messages sent to big wigs in TeamPlayers about it being 'friendly' fights. However, when talking to members out of TeamPlayers, nobody knows of these proclaimed messages. So now, 0uter.Heaven calls for alliance support for something they got themselves in. Coincidence? Think not. Our alliance values stand strong, if Hellstorm was to partake in these battles (which we did after we had talked to leaders of TeamPlayers and they gave us the OK), the EoN. and LOi war would of been official. 0uter.Heaven knew we were still finishing off ROFL, still situating the alliance in the new districts. And as an alliance stand point, we can not allow one corporation in the alliance to pull the whole alliance in without prior consent.
Removal of 0uter.Heaven:
- Seeing how leadership has been putting bricks into the brick wall that is now between 0uter.Heaven and LOI, thus the judgement was made to remove them. The alliance as noted, we stand strong on our values and will not allow one corporation to deminish the reputation or pull the alliance into something that has not been discussed.
- - Upon the removal of 0uter.Heaven, Hellstorm has had some players apply. After talking with many of them and even current players that are still in 0uter.Heaven, a lot are content with the decision and are frustrated with their leader. No offense to Radar, but he has caused this on his corporation.
Now here we stand two separate forces: talking with 0uter.Heaven members on a daily basis; a lot feel like it's not right to have the action of one person to cause for the influx of weight on their shoulders. I agree, but, when that one person is your CEO, there is not much we can do at that point.
One more thing Radar, if you would like to talk to me, don't send members from your corp to talk to me, talk to me like a man. You attack us on the forums, but in reality; you just played your hand. Best of luck, it's been fun.[/quote]
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