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Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.06 20:59:00 -
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DUST is meant to be an ISK sink to EVE. "They have too much isk". So yeah they will pay me to do their dirty work, at first. Then when DUST is flooded with EVE isk we will be buying eachother. |
DEATH KLOK
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:01:00 -
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Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote:loged in now just got 30 kills 15 deaths is that bad or good??
hmmmmm idk ask this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhMKxHCx3Hc |
SmileB4Death
Sugar Plum Fairies
125
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:11:00 -
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As soon as I stopped caring about K/D, I've had a lot more fun to be honest.
On a side, note I've saved a lot of money on controllers! I don't crush them anymore. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
262
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:34:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Bragging about a high KDR in this game is a little like showing off the candy you got by ripping off a babies head.
Man candy is expensive in your neighbourhood. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
896
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:34:00 -
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Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote:loged in now just got 30 kills 15 deaths is that bad or good??
No. Never did. |
SENATOR KODOS
Absentee AFK Regiment
231
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:44:00 -
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Of coursed kd matters you idiots.
Its an FPS.
But 99.9% of people who say it matters, play with it in mind so theirs doesn't matter because its manufactured. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2239
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Posted - 2013.07.06 21:51:00 -
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With all the spawn camping and laser tag going on in Chrome, KDR is a useless stat because it wasn't reset for Uprising. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
249
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:06:00 -
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I don't think it matters.
Considering that Most of this game's life wasn't recording Skirmish stats.
The thing that I hate is when people/corporations call you a bad player because of your KD
I'm perfectly fine with my 1.88 KD |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers
EoN.
363
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:10:00 -
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KDR > EVERYTHING |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4465
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:11:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:KDR > EVERYTHING
Let it rain. |
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Zelorian Dexter snr
DVC 514
0
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:18:00 -
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I guess KDR is useful if your anti infantry but I run AV medic so don't tend to kill that much but make 1500 to 2500 wp per match with a 4/1 so for me no |
Daylon Daxx
DUST University
Ivy League
55
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:27:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote:anybody know what jihading is? LOL running around with remote explosives diving into enemy lines and pilling the trigger in that moment right after death before the world goes black. the last thing you see is +50 +50 +50 +50 on a side note this game is about profit, the game is pay (ISK) to win and if your team REALLY wants to win the objective then they can run full proto and die a million times to get it and they will win. on the other hand the only real objective is profitability being able to afford decent gear and knowing when to run it is key. so essentially its ISK/Death thats one of the most important metrics. K/D is a bad metric in this game because of how easy it is to just focus on K/D and skyrocket that one stat, but in return be completly useless in actually winning objectives
Hmmm...Jihad Scout.
Those points I put into explosives might be more useful than I thought. 
+1 |
Cosgar
ParagonX
2243
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Posted - 2013.07.06 22:29:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:KDR > EVERYTHING
That's why I see so many 1337 players dropping out of matches. Screw winning and teamwork when you have to protoect how many times you've killed vs how many times you die. |
Palatinate
Ill Omens
EoN.
10
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:10:00 -
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I have a 5.55 KD as an assault and I always try to have fun in every game. I don't think KD is everything but it could be a factor to who can survive longer or who can cause more deaths to the enemy team. But as bragging rights? No. KD < Having fun!! |
Crow Splat
DUST University
Ivy League
30
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:19:00 -
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It's all about isk made versus isk spent. Are you making more than you are spending?
If yes then you are a good mercenary. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:21:00 -
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No. As long as its 1.1 or over you have nothing to worry about.
Winning the objective is what counts. Making money isn't a bad thing either.
My main has a very good KDR but i'm not pretending it means much. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones
General Tso's Alliance
91
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:28:00 -
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First thing I noticed about Dust that I love till this day. Your K/D does not matter!! Your performance and how you assist your team does! I love that. For one, it shuts down all that K/D talk from other multiplayer FPS games. Secondly, even the guy that is deemed to be not the active killer but a good team player gets some shine for a change.
Johnny Rambos don't exist...but a well trained cohesive team does. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
175
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Posted - 2013.07.07 01:48:00 -
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If I'm running around in BPO, standard, and militia, while acquiring top standing warpoints, I couldn't care less about my KD.
When I play as scout, the ability to remain unnoticed and hack an objective is worth the death on the way out.
As a logi, if I bring 2 teammates from the dead before falling myself, that is a good death.
I have a lot of ISK and I get a lot of Warpoints.
Hi my name is Tallen, and I have a .64 KDR |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
13
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Posted - 2013.07.07 02:37:00 -
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Cobra CLUTCH79 wrote:loged in now just got 30 kills 15 deaths is that bad or good?? Smart soldiers kill as many enemies as possible without taking risks. You are doing the right thing. |
Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger
Nulli Secunda
99
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:08:00 -
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in new eden a single variable is important
winning in the long run
the only thing that matters is if your team wins or looses their strategic objectives
how you win or loose is completely irrelevant, if you reach your goal, you are good |
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:20:00 -
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way back in the day some Jedi told me its 10k kills @ 3.0+ ratio to achieve leet status.
but then he said only Jedi can hold 3.0 vs other 3.0 players,. |
BARDAS
DUST University
Ivy League
45
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:31:00 -
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As a Scout my answer is NO. Though I do consider any match where I go positive a victory. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
432
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:34:00 -
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What matters is how effective you are. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
League of Infamy
52
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Posted - 2013.07.07 03:39:00 -
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I killed you last night, so add that to your kd.
Lol just playing, I think it depends on ur roll, scouts may have bad kd but other than this build they could take 4/5 scalps before death so if I have my team behind me rush your squad kill half ur squad my squad kills the rest of you an takes the objective that's better than all of us dying cuz when my cheap fit dies to distract your squad of protos an my team hits an kills ur proto squad with a semi circle attack we lost 20 000 isk your squad lost a million.
In that case it's worth it |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2013.07.07 05:45:00 -
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People always say K/D doesn't matter but they are wrong because of generally 2 factors:
1) Most FPSes have a killstreak mechanism, you dying = feeding the other team's summonable weapon drops/UAVs/orbital strikes/etc etc. So dying directly advantages the enemy team.
2) You being face down in the dirt waiting for respawn means you are not there helping your team take/defend the objective from the enemy team, your team is now -1 gun. K/D is a measure of how much you cause the other team to be suffering this problem compared to how much you are imposing it on your own team.
In Dust we have the added factor of ISK in vs ISK out. Dying lots means you have less ISK to run your best fits and call your best vehicles when it matters.
So while KD may not be a measure of a good player (because it matters how you spent those deaths) it does have a direct effect on the game and your effectiveness as a team player.
PS: The other thing I find amusing is how EVERYONE on this forum allegedly has a 3:1 KDR which is an interesting mathematical conundrum. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
288
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Posted - 2013.07.07 06:58:00 -
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Mean KDR of all players past and present is... 1.0 |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
ROFL BROS
232
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:08:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:
PS: The other thing I find amusing is how EVERYONE on this forum allegedly has a 3:1 KDR which is an interesting mathematical conundrum.
people who post on the forums are alot more likly to be better at the game than the people who dont, raising the overal K/Dr average of those who post on the forums.
we are a small minority of the active playerbase. |
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