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Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
84
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Posted - 2013.07.06 12:43:00 -
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So I just went on a few match losing streak.
To Core Flaylockers, Duvolle Assaulters, and Road Ragers.
All stomping the ambush matches. Holy shnap!
These things are almost unstoppable.
My last match was nothing but everyone on my team getting destroyed by the Flaylock and Duvolle Assault.
Now I feel the pain of the Over Poweredness.
Face my scrambler pistols and weak suits like men/women, you cowards! ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
TL;DR mode: Core Flaylock + Duvolle Assault = OP fo sho. Come at me bro. Etc... |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
236
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:00:00 -
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So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:04:00 -
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^ If you had protos doing the same s*** on your team then it will be a challenge. How come I don't see any other assault rifles? |
EKH0 0ne
Knights of No Republic
156
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:04:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:So I just went on a few match losing streak.
To Core Flaylockers, Duvolle Assaulters, and Road Ragers.
All stomping the ambush matches. Holy shnap!
These things are almost unstoppable.
My last match was nothing but everyone on my team getting destroyed by the Core Flaylock and Duvolle Assault.
Now I feel the pain of the Over Poweredness.
Face my scrambler pistols and weak suits like men/women, you cowards! ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
TL;DR mode: Core Flaylock + Duvolle Assault = OP fo sho. Come at me bro. Etc... ...
Give us some context and tell us how much SP you have and what dropsuit you were usinga |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
355
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:05:00 -
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LoL I killed OP with my AR like 5 mins ago |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
69
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:06:00 -
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it's a damn shame people take advantage of the bs in this game. And they think they're good, |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
47
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:09:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:So I just went on a few match losing streak.
To Core Flaylockers, Duvolle Assaulters, and Road Ragers.
All stomping the ambush matches. Holy shnap!
These things are almost unstoppable.
My last match was nothing but everyone on my team getting destroyed by the Core Flaylock and Duvolle Assault.
Now I feel the pain of the Over Poweredness.
Face my scrambler pistols and weak suits like men/women, you cowards! ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
TL;DR mode: Core Flaylock + Duvolle Assault = OP fo sho. Come at me bro. Etc...
Meh Flay locks are pretty powerful guns, but not the be all end of gameplay, shame of those who spam them for lack of reason other than to be a part of the trend, props to those who truly kick ass with them, but my trusty scrambler rifle takes on all comers and oft times wins.
Also the only real reason Id' take issue with a Flaylock is because armour tanking sucks and explosives have no real downsides to the players that use them. |
Acturus Galaxy
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
63
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:12:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking.
The problem is not that some playes run all proto in pub ambushes, the problem is the small playerbase and matchmaking. Is it great when you have a squad on each side running proto to even out the match, but it often happens that the matchmaking is unable to find an equal strong squad to match with the other proto squad. You will then end up with a proto squad with whatever op weapon totally destoying the opposing random team.
I have stopped getting mad at this and instead decided to only run miltia or standard suits in pubs even though I have 12mill SP and 200mill isk. Have great fun trying to at least get a few proto kills, I will loose no isk and it is a great challenge that I enjoy robbing the proto players of some of their isk. And in return I am helping them to improve their kill death ratio, a win win situation :) |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
84
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:13:00 -
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EKH0 0ne wrote:... Give us some context and tell us how much SP you have and what dropsuit you were usinga
Basic Minmatar Medium Frame M-1 (165 Shield/ 135 Armor) + CAR-9 Burst SP (50.4 Dmg) + TY-5 Breach SP (134.4 Dmg) + 3 Complex Dmg mods + 1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade. Not to mention Lv4 Pro for pistols.
PS: Please don't take my (Q_Q' )ing to heart, guys. i'm not saying this is some kind of travesty that will be the end of the world or something. I'm saying that now I know what it really feels like. I also have Lv3 Pro Flaylocks, but I don't use them anymore because it's just not AS fun to use when so many others use it. I like using semi-challenging weapons. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
172
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:17:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking.
I enjoy the challenge of taking on strong players. I don't see many of them though - but I do see a lot of tryhards in proto gear, proto weapons and OP Cal Logi suits with no EQ slots filled.
Is that what you mean?
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Bigglesworth McQueen
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
158
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:25:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:... Give us some context and tell us how much SP you have and what dropsuit you were usinga Basic Minmatar Medium Frame M-1 (165 Shield/ 135 Armor) + CAR-9 Burst SP (50.4 Dmg) + TY-5 Breach SP (134.4 Dmg) + 3 Complex Dmg mods + 1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade. Not to mention Lv4 Pro for pistols. PS: Please don't take my (Q_Q' )ing to heart, guys. i'm not saying this is some kind of travesty that will be the end of the world or something. I'm saying that now I know what it really feels like. I also have Lv3 Pro Flaylocks, but I don't use them anymore because it's just not AS fun to use when so many others use it. I like using semi-challenging weapons.
Putting the balance issue aside, your fit is based on full dps with minimal tank. Of course you are dying.
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Acturus Galaxy
Horizons' Edge Orion Empire
65
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:27:00 -
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Acturus Galaxy wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. The problem is not that some playes run all proto in pub ambushes, the problem is the small playerbase and matchmaking. Is it great when you have a squad on each side running proto to even out the match, but it often happens that the matchmaking is unable to find an equal strong squad to match with the other proto squad. You will then end up with a proto squad with whatever op weapon totally destoying the opposing random team. I have stopped getting mad at this and instead decided to only run miltia or standard suits in pubs even though I have 12mill SP and 200mill isk. Have great fun trying to at least get a few proto kills, I will loose no isk and it is a great challenge that I enjoy robbing the proto players of some of their isk. And in return I am helping them to improve their kill death ratio, a win win situation :)
I forgot to add that my FPS skill are no way good enough to go up against the proto squad even if I put on my finest dropsuit. Therefore going all militia is actually great fun as I have accepted that I will never have a high kill death ratio |
Grimmiers
ZionTCD
189
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:29:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:LoL I killed OP with my AR like 5 mins ago
I went 2/7 recently in a match against you. Please send me a message when you're done playing for today so I can grind safely. |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
358
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:32:00 -
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I have work at 11:00am |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
12
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:36:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. you like challenges thats fine. we dont have to because challenges usually mean getting smashed. not getting better. and that will never ever be fun. also who the hell are you to say how to get good. the right way to get good is to fight someone of your skill level or a little higher. thats just my opinion. what you said is not a fact or a way of life. if he hates fighting stupid annoying high level players then leave him alone. |
LHughes
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
55
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:37:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:So I just went on a few match losing streak.
To Core Flaylockers, Duvolle Assaulters, and Road Ragers.
All stomping the ambush matches. Holy shnap!
These things are almost unstoppable.
My last match was nothing but everyone on my team getting destroyed by the Core Flaylock and Duvolle Assault.
Now I feel the pain of the Over Poweredness.
Face my scrambler pistols and weak suits like men/women, you cowards! ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
TL;DR mode: Core Flaylock + Duvolle Assault = OP fo sho. Come at me bro. Etc...
When you see a red dot you need to point at them & press R1 at them then you might not die so much.
There is nothing wrong with the game & people like you are detrimental to it's success by always questiong what the great, almighty CCP are trying to create here. |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
85
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:44:00 -
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LHughes wrote:When you see a red dot you need to point at them & press R1 at them then you might not die so much. There is nothing wrong with the game & people like you are detrimental to it's success by always questiong what the great, almighty CCP are trying to create here.
Lol. Have you ever tried using Scrambler Pistols before. Especially a breach.
That aside. This isn't just about me, guys. It's about the others that are getting raped as well. Trust me. When I'm not up against Pro weapons, I have enough time to get those head shots in before i get dropped. |
LHughes
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
55
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:45:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:it's a damn shame people take advantage of the bs in this game. And they think they're good,
I take advantage of all the bs in the game, that however is unrelated to my level of skill (Hughes2.0)
Skill levels from bad to good
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - Hughes - Hughes2.0
Note: Hughes2.0 was invented after the skill level moderaters thought there needed to be two levels between me & the rest of yous. |
JimJones22
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:24:00 -
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So the flavor of the build is flaylock and duvolle ay?
So welcome to new eden, HTFU, Get gud and kitten bacon scrub. |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
37
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:33:00 -
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Seriously. that fit has no tank, and no speed tank.
You poor guy, a proto flaylock would wear your skin as a hat!
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
895
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:35:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking.
Here is where your argument falls apart, on a totally even playing field a player that truly is "stronger" than another will still come out on top Right now the field is far from even or even competitively balanced so certain builds and even just using a full proto kit in general are a crutch |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
634
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:36:00 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:
Meh Flay locks are pretty powerful guns, but not the be all end of gameplay, shame of those who spam them for lack of reason other than to be a part of the trend, props to those who truly kick ass with them, but my trusty scrambler rifle takes on all comers and oft times wins.
Also the only real reason Id' take issue with a Flaylock is because armour tanking sucks and explosives have no real downsides to the players that use them.
FWIW- I want to realyl just use a shotty and knivees. both have horrid hit detection as of late, and flaylock it is!
Also, it's a minmatar weapon that fits nicely with the minja scout. The low PG and CPU (with sidearm op lv 5) makes it one of the few weapons that doesn't break the dropsuit bank. It also reclaims a bit of edge we lost with the speed/endurance nerf. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
501
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:46:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:it's a damn shame people take advantage of the bs in this game. And they think they're good,
I am getting that Dust is about exploiting the "mistakes" made by the devs. After 5 months I see the same scrubs jumping on the band wagon. Every release or event i have seen is "botched" so it benefits mainstream gamers. I just wish they would just come out and say. "You suck, heres your OP weapon of the month, please dont quit." |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
166
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:47:00 -
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You can easily do well using just ADV gear.
ADV medium suit GEK Toxin ADV AV nades
4-5 KDR is quite possible in PUB games. Just be aware of surroundings and play to your advantage. Running in an open field is just asking to be squished/popped |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1782
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:00:00 -
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LHughes wrote:Niuvo wrote:it's a damn shame people take advantage of the bs in this game. And they think they're good, I take advantage of all the bs in the game, that however is unrelated to my level of skill (Hughes2.0) Skill levels from bad to good 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - Hughes - Hughes2.0 Note: Hughes2.0 was invented after the skill level moderaters thought there needed to be two levels between me & the rest of yous.
Darling, where am I on that scale when it comes to us in bed? |
Operative 1174 Uuali
D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass
16
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Posted - 2013.07.09 05:06:00 -
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To OP:
Yep, I feel your pain. I came in hoping for a sporting combat game.
I'm slowing moving out with only the bad taste of fanboi cheap frat thrills Grand Theft Auto left.
This isn't for us former military types. This game is for the neckbeards to have a place to feel good about themselves.
Beer, LAVs and lols.
But CCP just wants the money so as long as the aurum can keep flowing I guess it'll be a success for them. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
2086
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Posted - 2013.07.09 05:09:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:I have work at 11:00am Reg, what's your twitch channel name again? |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
571
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Posted - 2013.07.09 06:19:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:LoL I killed OP with my AR like 5 mins ago But you are very, very good at killing folks in FPS. Good to see you again C |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
295
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Posted - 2013.07.09 06:21:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:So I just went on a few match losing streak.
To Core Flaylockers, Duvolle Assaulters, and Road Ragers.
All stomping the ambush matches. Holy shnap!
These things are almost unstoppable.
My last match was nothing but everyone on my team getting destroyed by the Core Flaylock and Duvolle Assault.
Now I feel the pain of the Over Poweredness.
Face my scrambler pistols and weak suits like men/women, you cowards! ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
TL;DR mode: Core Flaylock + Duvolle Assault = OP fo sho. Come at me bro. Etc... Why were the only matches you went into ambush? |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
571
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Posted - 2013.07.09 06:23:00 -
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[quote=Canari Elphus]You can easily do well using just ADV gear.
ADV medium suit GEK Toxin ADV AV nades
4-5 KDR is quite possible in PUB games. Just be aware of surroundings and play to your advantage. Running in an open field is just asking to be squished/popped[/quote
But, but I run starter fits and militia mods/weapons KDR 1.7 but my ISK is really high. I am not going to run anything better until my skills improve. |
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Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
54
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Posted - 2013.07.09 07:27:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:it's a damn shame people take advantage of the bs in this game. And they think they're good, What's your definition of good? |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
82
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Posted - 2013.07.09 07:29:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. skill can only get you so far or a bullet to the face |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
119
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Posted - 2013.07.09 08:01:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:... Why were the only matches you went into ambush?
Playing long slow matches in Skirmish or Domination with a Militia Amarr Medium and two scrambler pistols is not something I would prefer to do.
I'm into testing my head shot skills in a match where hacking and going for long runs everywhere are not priority. Ambush is the least boring mode for me right now. That and since my SP is capped, it'd be a waste playing long matches where I already got my 1000, long before the match is over. |
Ulme Mees
Eesti Leegion
5
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Posted - 2013.07.09 08:02:00 -
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Running Skinwave logi suit with exile/toxin AR + some other milita BPOs, fit costs 900 ISK. 90% of the time I end in the top 3....
With score like 19/12 I get around 300k isk from every battle and it feels good to kill proto suits in MLT stuff.
So I really don't understand the problem you are having? Getting killed by proto stuff is a problem? |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
263
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Posted - 2013.07.09 08:12:00 -
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Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:To OP:
Yep, I feel your pain. I came in hoping for a sporting combat game.
I'm slowing moving out with only the bad taste of fanboi cheap frat thrills Grand Theft Auto left.
This isn't for us former military types. This game is for the neckbeards to have a place to feel good about themselves.
Beer, LAVs and lols.
It is NOT urban warfare. It is urban gangbanging. I think there are better games that cover both themes.
But CCP just wants the money so as long as the aurum can keep flowing I guess it'll be a success for them.
Why is it so hard for people to understand the MMO aspect of this game? With a 7-10 year skill tree of course people who have been playing for 6 months are going to have a significant skill+gear advantage. Any type of MMO provides significantly more powerful gear at high levels than what beginners will have and if you cannot accept that then move along, this is not the game for you.
Although I see by your AUR statement that you seem to believe the game is PTW, which just shows your ignorance. It's pay to get ahead at best. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
263
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Posted - 2013.07.09 08:20:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:... Why were the only matches you went into ambush? Playing long slow matches in Skirmish or Domination with a Militia Amarr Medium and two scrambler pistols is not something I would prefer to do. I'm into testing my head shot skills in a match where hacking and going for long runs everywhere are not priority. Ambush is the least boring mode for me right now. That and since my SP is capped, it'd be a waste playing long matches where I already got my 1000, long before the match is over.
If you were in a squad with comms and moving and working together as a unit you would skirmish/Domo much more exciting than following the zerg or getting run over by it.
Finally I'd like to point out those people smoking you with Duvolles most likely had Full AR proficiency and would've dropped you only split second slower even with a basic AR.
If you feel you're dying to much try a different fit with a little more Tank, hell you're only getting about 4% extra damage from the third damage mod due to stacking penalties. |
Import Beercase
Red Fox Brigade
29
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Posted - 2013.07.09 08:56:00 -
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LHughes wrote:Niuvo wrote:it's a damn shame people take advantage of the bs in this game. And they think they're good, I take advantage of all the bs in the game, that however is unrelated to my level of skill (Hughes2.0) Skill levels from bad to good 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - Hughes - Hughes2.0 Note: Hughes2.0 was invented after the skill level moderaters thought there needed to be two levels between me & the rest of yous.
Does your skill level include script that forces you to leave game when 0-3? I just have noticed that kind of behaviour on people that usually play really good on certain corps in pub matches.
Had fun against your team last night. I went 8-10 against you and the other full squad from some corp. For me it is all about profit so no hard feelings. I liked to spawn on the ambushed cru near A with 2000isk shotgun scout fitting. Nice rush of heartbeat to be surrounded by red dots. Priming nade and taking some spawn camper with me. |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
306
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:00:00 -
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Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking.
you wouldnt be so happy if it were him in a tank going 35:0, would you? mlt lavs, flayocks, and ARs need nerfs. Some more than others, but still. |
Rinzler XVIII
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.09 09:08:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:To OP:
Yep, I feel your pain. I came in hoping for a sporting combat game.
I'm slowing moving out with only the bad taste of fanboi cheap frat thrills Grand Theft Auto left.
This isn't for us former military types. This game is for the neckbeards to have a place to feel good about themselves.
Beer, LAVs and lols.
It is NOT urban warfare. It is urban gangbanging. I think there are better games that cover both themes.
But CCP just wants the money so as long as the aurum can keep flowing I guess it'll be a success for them. Why is it so hard for people to understand the MMO aspect of this game? With a 7-10 year skill tree of course people who have been playing for 6 months are going to have a significant skill+gear advantage. Any type of MMO provides significantly more powerful gear at high levels than what beginners will have and if you cannot accept that then move along, this is not the game for you. Although I see by your AUR statement that you seem to believe the game is PTW, which just shows your ignorance. It's pay to get ahead at best.
UMM in MMO'S brand spanking new players to the game don;t instantly go up v the top level players who are way ahead of them sp and gear wise, have you ever played an MMO before or just guessing at what it means ?? On Wow you don't create a character get to lvl 5 (equivalent of the academy in dust) and then go straight up against lvl 80 players in full pvp sets ... all these high k/d ratios would soon change if you were always fighting v ppl at the same level as you .. take away all the new players you've killed and im guessing it would at least half your total kills per game .. |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
122
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:30:00 -
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Don't confuse skills with skill points. |
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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
1854
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Posted - 2013.07.09 10:41:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:So I just went on a few match losing streak.
To Core Flaylockers, Duvolle Assaulters, and Road Ragers.
All stomping the ambush matches. Holy shnap!
These things are almost unstoppable.
My last match was nothing but everyone on my team getting destroyed by the Core Flaylock and Duvolle Assault.
Now I feel the pain of the Over Poweredness.
Face my scrambler pistols and weak suits like men/women, you cowards! ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦)
TL;DR mode: Core Flaylock + Duvolle Assault = OP fo sho. Come at me bro. Etc...
Duvolle Rifle is fine, we had to drop a lot of SP to be able to even use them let alone survive with them. Plus, theres not many other options for a general purpose weapon - its not like people complain about Assault Rifles in Battlefield 3 despite there being so many.
Essentially it comes downto this:
1.) Its a Gallente weapon, and we Gallente love our damage. LOVE IT. Combined with armor tanking and damage mods, youre seeing the bread and butter of a typIcal Gallente build. I mean, hell, we get a reduction to CPU/PG of hybrids so its that or the Shotgun.
2.) You kind of have to use damage mods as an armor tanker simply because the only thing leftt to put in the high slots is shield mods. Which, we use to help kill the Flaylocks which deal bonus damage to armor.
3.) Assault Rifles are fulfilling the roles of the Rail Rifle (Tactical) and Combat Rifle (burst, rumored) so Im sure itll be adjusted in the futureand the latest OP craze will be the Combat Rifle as the Gal Assault Rifle suddenly has the range of an HMG so they can shoehorn in the other two.
4.) I agree thatthe Flaylock is OP simply because its more effective than a mass driver, insanely easy to use and is A SIDEARM.
But as far as Assault Rifles, I disagree. |
Soldiersaint
Reaper Galactic
88
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Posted - 2013.07.09 21:46:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. Here is where your argument falls apart, on a totally even playing field a player that truly is "stronger" than another will still come out on top Right now the field is far from even or even competitively balanced so certain builds and even just using a full proto kit in general are a crutch WHO CARES? for the love of God stop trying to make every one play like a competitive rat. you want to jip yourself thats fine. we will take all the advantage we can possibly get. this is a war game not a sports game and in war you do what it takes to come out on top. Crutch? i dont think so. Tactical advantage hell yes! you want to show off your freaking skill thats fine. just let us play how we want to play man. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
172
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Posted - 2013.07.10 01:04:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:[quote=Canari Elphus]You can easily do well using just ADV gear.
ADV medium suit GEK Toxin ADV AV nades
4-5 KDR is quite possible in PUB games. Just be aware of surroundings and play to your advantage. Running in an open field is just asking to be squished/popped[/quote
But, but I run starter fits and militia mods/weapons KDR 1.7 but my ISK is really high. I am not going to run anything better until my skills improve.
Well, everyone has their own definition of success in battles. Some people value their KDR and others value their bank account. The fit I described makes me about 100-150k ISK per battle. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1032
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Posted - 2013.07.10 01:07:00 -
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Soldiersaint wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Sir Petersen wrote:So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. Here is where your argument falls apart, on a totally even playing field a player that truly is "stronger" than another will still come out on top Right now the field is far from even or even competitively balanced so certain builds and even just using a full proto kit in general are a crutch WHO CARES? for the love of God stop trying to make every one play like a competitive rat. you want to jip yourself thats fine. we will take all the advantage we can possibly get. this is a war game not a sports game and in war you do what it takes to come out on top. Crutch? i dont think so. Tactical advantage hell yes! you want to show off your freaking skill thats fine. just let us play how we want to play man.
Cry some more, I need salt for the dinner table |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2263
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Posted - 2013.07.10 01:12:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:... Give us some context and tell us how much SP you have and what dropsuit you were usinga Basic Minmatar Medium Frame M-1 (165 Shield/ 135 Armor) + CAR-9 Burst SP (50.4 Dmg) + TY-5 Breach SP (134.4 Dmg) + 3 Complex Dmg mods + 1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade. Not to mention Lv4 Pro for pistols. PS: Please don't take my (Q_Q' )ing to heart, guys. i'm not saying this is some kind of travesty that will be the end of the world or something. I'm saying that now I know what it really feels like. I also have Lv3 Pro Flaylocks, but I don't use them anymore because it's just not AS fun to use when so many others use it. I like using semi-challenging weapons. lol, oh god man, that's horrible
No, seriously, that's like not even funny... nah, yes it is |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
139
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:41:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:EKH0 0ne wrote:... Give us some context and tell us how much SP you have and what dropsuit you were usinga . lol, oh god man, that's horrible No, seriously, that's like not even funny... nah, yes it is
Yeah. It is indeed Hard mode.
However, Scout suits with Nova Knives and other NON explosive and medium range weapons is impossible mode. |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
860
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:06:00 -
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I would be ok with flaylocks if the scrambler pistol was any good. The headshot bonus is a waste of time in most combat engagements to the point I have a flaylock just so I have a useful side arm in cqc |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
256
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Posted - 2013.07.10 13:30:00 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:
Meh Flay locks are pretty powerful guns, but not the be all end of gameplay, shame of those who spam them for lack of reason other than to be a part of the trend.
I think they spam them because they get a ****-ton of kills and few deaths when they do so, not be part of a trend. |
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