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Another Heavy SOB wrote:

Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:

To OP:

Yep, I feel your pain. I came in hoping for a sporting combat game.

I'm slowing moving out with only the bad taste of fanboi cheap frat thrills Grand Theft Auto left.

This isn't for us former military types. This game is for the neckbeards to have a place to feel good about themselves.

Beer, LAVs and lols.

It is NOT urban warfare. It is urban gangbanging. I think there are better games that cover both themes.

But CCP just wants the money so as long as the aurum can keep flowing I guess it'll be a success for them.

Why is it so hard for people to understand the MMO aspect of this game? With a 7-10 year skill tree of course people who have been playing for 6 months are going to have a significant skill+gear advantage. Any type of MMO provides significantly more powerful gear at high levels than what beginners will have and if you cannot accept that then move along, this is not the game for you.

Although I see by your AUR statement that you seem to believe the game is PTW, which just shows your ignorance. It's pay to get ahead at best.

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Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 54	Posted - 2013.07.09 07:27:00 - [31] - Quote Niuvo wrote: it's a damn shame people take advantage of the bs in this game. And they think they're good, What's your definition of good?
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 82	Posted - 2013.07.09 07:29:00 - [32] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. skill can only get you so far or a bullet to the face
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 119	Posted - 2013.07.09 08:01:00 - [33] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: ... Why were the only matches you went into ambush? Playing long slow matches in Skirmish or Domination with a Militia Amarr Medium and two scrambler pistols is not something I would prefer to do. I'm into testing my head shot skills in a match where hacking and going for long runs everywhere are not priority. Ambush is the least boring mode for me right now. That and since my SP is capped, it'd be a waste playing long matches where I already got my 1000, long before the match is over.
Ulme Mees Eesti Leegion 5	Posted - 2013.07.09 08:02:00 - [34] - Quote Running Skinwave logi suit with exile/toxin AR + some other milita BPOs, fit costs 900 ISK. 90% of the time I end in the top 3.... With score like 19/12 I get around 300k isk from every battle and it feels good to kill proto suits in MLT stuff. So I really don't understand the problem you are having? Getting killed by proto stuff is a problem?
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 263	Posted - 2013.07.09 08:12:00 - [35] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: To OP: Yep, I feel your pain. I came in hoping for a sporting combat game. I'm slowing moving out with only the bad taste of fanboi cheap frat thrills Grand Theft Auto left. This isn't for us former military types. This game is for the neckbeards to have a place to feel good about themselves. Beer, LAVs and lols. It is NOT urban warfare. It is urban gangbanging. I think there are better games that cover both themes. But CCP just wants the money so as long as the aurum can keep flowing I guess it'll be a success for them. Why is it so hard for people to understand the MMO aspect of this game? With a 7-10 year skill tree of course people who have been playing for 6 months are going to have a significant skill+gear advantage. Any type of MMO provides significantly more powerful gear at high levels than what beginners will have and if you cannot accept that then move along, this is not the game for you. Although I see by your AUR statement that you seem to believe the game is PTW, which just shows your ignorance. It's pay to get ahead at best.
Another Heavy SOB TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN. 263	Posted - 2013.07.09 08:20:00 - [36] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: ... Why were the only matches you went into ambush? Playing long slow matches in Skirmish or Domination with a Militia Amarr Medium and two scrambler pistols is not something I would prefer to do. I'm into testing my head shot skills in a match where hacking and going for long runs everywhere are not priority. Ambush is the least boring mode for me right now. That and since my SP is capped, it'd be a waste playing long matches where I already got my 1000, long before the match is over. If you were in a squad with comms and moving and working together as a unit you would skirmish/Domo much more exciting than following the zerg or getting run over by it. Finally I'd like to point out those people smoking you with Duvolles most likely had Full AR proficiency and would've dropped you only split second slower even with a basic AR. If you feel you're dying to much try a different fit with a little more Tank, hell you're only getting about 4% extra damage from the third damage mod due to stacking penalties.
Import Beercase Red Fox Brigade 29	Posted - 2013.07.09 08:56:00 - [37] - Quote LHughes wrote: Niuvo wrote: it's a damn shame people take advantage of the bs in this game. And they think they're good, I take advantage of all the bs in the game, that however is unrelated to my level of skill (Hughes2.0) Skill levels from bad to good 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - Hughes - Hughes2.0 Note: Hughes2.0 was invented after the skill level moderaters thought there needed to be two levels between me & the rest of yous. Does your skill level include script that forces you to leave game when 0-3? I just have noticed that kind of behaviour on people that usually play really good on certain corps in pub matches. Had fun against your team last night. I went 8-10 against you and the other full squad from some corp. For me it is all about profit so no hard feelings. I liked to spawn on the ambushed cru near A with 2000isk shotgun scout fitting. Nice rush of heartbeat to be surrounded by red dots. Priming nade and taking some spawn camper with me.
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 306	Posted - 2013.07.09 09:00:00 - [38] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. you wouldnt be so happy if it were him in a tank going 35:0, would you? mlt lavs, flayocks, and ARs need nerfs. Some more than others, but still.
Rinzler XVIII Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2013.07.09 09:08:00 - [39] - Quote Another Heavy SOB wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: To OP: Yep, I feel your pain. I came in hoping for a sporting combat game. I'm slowing moving out with only the bad taste of fanboi cheap frat thrills Grand Theft Auto left. This isn't for us former military types. This game is for the neckbeards to have a place to feel good about themselves. Beer, LAVs and lols. It is NOT urban warfare. It is urban gangbanging. I think there are better games that cover both themes. But CCP just wants the money so as long as the aurum can keep flowing I guess it'll be a success for them. Why is it so hard for people to understand the MMO aspect of this game? With a 7-10 year skill tree of course people who have been playing for 6 months are going to have a significant skill+gear advantage. Any type of MMO provides significantly more powerful gear at high levels than what beginners will have and if you cannot accept that then move along, this is not the game for you. Although I see by your AUR statement that you seem to believe the game is PTW, which just shows your ignorance. It's pay to get ahead at best. UMM in MMO'S brand spanking new players to the game don;t instantly go up v the top level players who are way ahead of them sp and gear wise, have you ever played an MMO before or just guessing at what it means ?? On Wow you don't create a character get to lvl 5 (equivalent of the academy in dust) and then go straight up against lvl 80 players in full pvp sets ... all these high k/d ratios would soon change if you were always fighting v ppl at the same level as you .. take away all the new players you've killed and im guessing it would at least half your total kills per game ..
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 122	Posted - 2013.07.09 10:30:00 - [40] - Quote Don't confuse skills with skill points.

Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 1854	Posted - 2013.07.09 10:41:00 - [41] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: So I just went on a few match losing streak. To Core Flaylockers, Duvolle Assaulters, and Road Ragers. All stomping the ambush matches. Holy shnap! These things are almost unstoppable. My last match was nothing but everyone on my team getting destroyed by the Core Flaylock and Duvolle Assault. Now I feel the pain of the Over Poweredness. Face my scrambler pistols and weak suits like men/women, you cowards! ( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) TL;DR mode: Core Flaylock + Duvolle Assault = OP fo sho. Come at me bro. Etc... Duvolle Rifle is fine, we had to drop a lot of SP to be able to even use them let alone survive with them. Plus, theres not many other options for a general purpose weapon - its not like people complain about Assault Rifles in Battlefield 3 despite there being so many. Essentially it comes downto this: 1.) Its a Gallente weapon, and we Gallente love our damage. LOVE IT. Combined with armor tanking and damage mods, youre seeing the bread and butter of a typIcal Gallente build. I mean, hell, we get a reduction to CPU/PG of hybrids so its that or the Shotgun. 2.) You kind of have to use damage mods as an armor tanker simply because the only thing leftt to put in the high slots is shield mods. Which, we use to help kill the Flaylocks which deal bonus damage to armor. 3.) Assault Rifles are fulfilling the roles of the Rail Rifle (Tactical) and Combat Rifle (burst, rumored) so Im sure itll be adjusted in the futureand the latest OP craze will be the Combat Rifle as the Gal Assault Rifle suddenly has the range of an HMG so they can shoehorn in the other two. 4.) I agree thatthe Flaylock is OP simply because its more effective than a mass driver, insanely easy to use and is A SIDEARM. But as far as Assault Rifles, I disagree.
Soldiersaint Reaper Galactic 88	Posted - 2013.07.09 21:46:00 - [42] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. Here is where your argument falls apart, on a totally even playing field a player that truly is "stronger" than another will still come out on top Right now the field is far from even or even competitively balanced so certain builds and even just using a full proto kit in general are a crutch WHO CARES? for the love of God stop trying to make every one play like a competitive rat. you want to jip yourself thats fine. we will take all the advantage we can possibly get. this is a war game not a sports game and in war you do what it takes to come out on top. Crutch? i dont think so. Tactical advantage hell yes! you want to show off your freaking skill thats fine. just let us play how we want to play man.
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 172	Posted - 2013.07.10 01:04:00 - [43] - Quote Tech Ohm Eaven wrote: [quote=Canari Elphus]You can easily do well using just ADV gear. ADV medium suit GEK Toxin ADV AV nades 4-5 KDR is quite possible in PUB games. Just be aware of surroundings and play to your advantage. Running in an open field is just asking to be squished/popped[/quote But, but I run starter fits and militia mods/weapons KDR 1.7 but my ISK is really high. I am not going to run anything better until my skills improve. Well, everyone has their own definition of success in battles. Some people value their KDR and others value their bank account. The fit I described makes me about 100-150k ISK per battle.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1032	Posted - 2013.07.10 01:07:00 - [44] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Sir Petersen wrote: So you don-¦t enjoy the challenge taking on strong players? Everything has to be evened out so life can be easy for you when playing? What-¦s wrong with you dude? You get good at playing DUST514 by shooting against the elite. Snap out of you-¦re losing way of thinking. Here is where your argument falls apart, on a totally even playing field a player that truly is "stronger" than another will still come out on top Right now the field is far from even or even competitively balanced so certain builds and even just using a full proto kit in general are a crutch WHO CARES? for the love of God stop trying to make every one play like a competitive rat. you want to jip yourself thats fine. we will take all the advantage we can possibly get. this is a war game not a sports game and in war you do what it takes to come out on top. Crutch? i dont think so. Tactical advantage hell yes! you want to show off your freaking skill thats fine. just let us play how we want to play man. Cry some more, I need salt for the dinner table
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2263	Posted - 2013.07.10 01:12:00 - [45] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: EKH0 0ne wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: . ... Give us some context and tell us how much SP you have and what dropsuit you were usinga Basic Minmatar Medium Frame M-1 (165 Shield/ 135 Armor) + CAR-9 Burst SP (50.4 Dmg) + TY-5 Breach SP (134.4 Dmg) + 3 Complex Dmg mods + 1 Enhanced CPU Upgrade. Not to mention Lv4 Pro for pistols. PS: Please don't take my (Q_Q' )ing to heart, guys. i'm not saying this is some kind of travesty that will be the end of the world or something. I'm saying that now I know what it really feels like. I also have Lv3 Pro Flaylocks, but I don't use them anymore because it's just not AS fun to use when so many others use it. I like using semi-challenging weapons. lol, oh god man, that's horrible No, seriously, that's like not even funny... nah, yes it is
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 139	Posted - 2013.07.10 11:41:00 - [46] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: EKH0 0ne wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: . ... Give us some context and tell us how much SP you have and what dropsuit you were usinga . lol, oh god man, that's horrible No, seriously, that's like not even funny... nah, yes it is Yeah. It is indeed Hard mode. However, Scout suits with Nova Knives and other NON explosive and medium range weapons is impossible mode.
steadyhand amarr Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 860	Posted - 2013.07.10 13:06:00 - [47] - Quote I would be ok with flaylocks if the scrambler pistol was any good. The headshot bonus is a waste of time in most combat engagements to the point I have a flaylock just so I have a useful side arm in cqc
Oso Peresoso RisingSuns 256	Posted - 2013.07.10 13:30:00 - [48] - Quote Kador Ouryon wrote: Meh Flay locks are pretty powerful guns, but not the be all end of gameplay, shame of those who spam them for lack of reason other than to be a part of the trend. I think they spam them because they get a ****-ton of kills and few deaths when they do so, not be part of a trend.


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