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Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:21:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPHS98EnVdc&feature=youtu.be watch that video and read the description, its only 20 seconds long .the video shows it all. its not only in that game but basically everygame i play its like that. please have afk kick or something 8 players on my team were afk out of 16. thats half the team. we got demolished. watch the vid above! Video description: CCP do something about this, this is how it is every game, 8 players are afk which is half the team and we get dominated this game. Cant you make it so that you get no points or get kicked if you are in the mcc or even anywhere in the field for longer than 2 minutes or something like that, im sure u did this in the gun selection spawn point screen, so the true Dust players will be in the lobby instead of the afk noobs, We got absolutely demolished that game because the were 8 afk players on our team, there was also a few afk players on there team. do something about this, im sick of looking for players in dust when its a full game only because 4 players are playing, it makes me sick. send this to CCP. |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
6
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:37:00 -
[2] - Quote
bump |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:38:00 -
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Daniyal Ranjbar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPHS98EnVdc&feature=youtu.be watch that video and read the description, its only 20 seconds long .the video shows it all. its not only in that game but basically everygame i play its like that. please have afk kick or something 8 players on my team were afk out of 16. thats half the team. we got demolished. watch the vid above! Video description: CCP do something about this, this is how it is every game, 8 players are afk which is half the team and we get dominated this game. Cant you make it so that you get no points or get kicked if you are in the mcc or even anywhere in the field for longer than 2 minutes or something like that, im sure u did this in the gun selection spawn point screen, so the true Dust players will be in the lobby instead of the afk noobs, We got absolutely demolished that game because the were 8 afk players on our team, there was also a few afk players on there team. do something about this, im sick of looking for players in dust when its a full game only because 4 players are playing, it makes me sick. send this to CCP.
So... |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX. Top Men.
305
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:45:00 -
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Xero The Mishima wrote:
So...
You're part of the problem scrub.
Bump. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1829
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:47:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:
So...
You're part of the problem scrub. Bump. So we meet again Alina Heart...
About the video: Anyone else saw that scout inside the wall? I cracked up the moment I saw that |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:48:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:
So...
You're part of the problem scrub. Bump.
So what....? |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:49:00 -
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Alina Heart wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:
So...
You're part of the problem scrub. Bump.
Do you even Dust bro? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
163
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:50:00 -
[8] - Quote
Yeah.. it happens almost every battle now...That is why i don't even try to win battles anymore. I spend the full battles now, sniping with a TAR, and hunting LAV's with Swarm launchers... i can't remember last time i tried to hack a terminal.. is been long time. |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
88
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Posted - 2013.07.06 08:53:00 -
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Yesterday I jumped in a Skirm and spawned in a MCC. It was like I was spawned right ontop the open cargo bay because soon as I was in game I was falling down to the battlefield and I noticed several other guys were spawning the same way...
Just me? |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
8
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yesterday I jumped in a Skirm and spawned in a MCC. It was like I was spawned right ontop the open cargo bay because soon as I was in game I was falling down to the battlefield and I noticed several other guys were spawning the same way...
Just me? never happened to me before :/ |
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VICTOR Tank
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
4
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:40:00 -
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Well i've never spawned and fell out i just happen to spawn inside the wall of the mcc. |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
8
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Posted - 2013.07.06 10:32:00 -
[12] - Quote
bump, CCP WATCH! |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
232
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Posted - 2013.07.06 10:35:00 -
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VICTOR Tank wrote:Well i've never spawned and fell out i just happen to spawn inside the wall of the mcc. You can actually walk through the wall whenever you want. It's not even a spawning thing. |
VICTOR Tank
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
4
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Posted - 2013.07.06 10:39:00 -
[14] - Quote
lol yeah i know i just for some werid reason its like oh hey spawn in wall lol |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
938
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:09:00 -
[15] - Quote
How about simply lowering the time based rewards for people who aren't actually doing anything. Seriously, how hard would it be to implement...
min (time on field + 10% time of battle, time of battle) / time of battle * normal earning rate * time of battle
Sigh, I'll go add it as a request to it might get noticed.
And, yes, i know pro idiots can drop down and rubber band their controller behind the redline... this doesn't mean we can't take steps to curb folks making the game less fun for those that actually play it. It would just be the first step forward. |
Amorale Lyadstafer
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:29:00 -
[16] - Quote
Odd, whenever I AFK, I see maximum 2 more with me :S |
Despawner Respawner
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:45:00 -
[17] - Quote
Watched video, would not recommend. For those interested its some afk smuck self righteously pointing out other afk ppls. Instead of gimping afk players lets ban pointless videos.....
Or you could actually fix the problems causing the symptom of afk play.
Fake edit- just saying that if I get as many skill points afk as I do playing, and there's a weekly cap I'm going to hit that cap. |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:49:00 -
[18] - Quote
Daniyal Ranjbar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPHS98EnVdc&feature=youtu.be watch that video and read the description, its only 20 seconds long .the video shows it all. its not only in that game but basically everygame i play its like that. please have afk kick or something 8 players on my team were afk out of 16. thats half the team. we got demolished. watch the vid above! Video description: CCP do something about this, this is how it is every game, 8 players are afk which is half the team and we get dominated this game. Cant you make it so that you get no points or get kicked if you are in the mcc or even anywhere in the field for longer than 2 minutes or something like that, im sure u did this in the gun selection spawn point screen, so the true Dust players will be in the lobby instead of the afk noobs, We got absolutely demolished that game because the were 8 afk players on our team, there was also a few afk players on there team. do something about this, im sick of looking for players in dust when its a full game only because 4 players are playing, it makes me sick. send this to CCP.
That could have been your friends doing this. All you have to do is leave squad and they turn blue. Not hard to get 8 players(squads of 4) in a FW or even a pub. Here is a tip for you. You see HALF your team(yea right) leave that game and play another one. QQ |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
939
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:53:00 -
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I love when people justify AFKing ... as if there is any possible twisted logic that truly supports it. OMG, don't gimp AFKing as I'll find it hard to get SP... and I simply can't let someone get more SP than me.
Mega-losers. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
171
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Posted - 2013.07.06 12:15:00 -
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Wow, I've never seen that many AFKers in any of my matches! I think at most 4-5 is what I've encountered....
I couldn't find a link but I know I've seen before that AFK is on CCP's list of items to fix.... if I can dig it up I'll post it here. I don't believe they have provided a timeline yet for the fix.
AFKers are a self-centered, excuse making lot. Don't let them rile you up.....
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Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
9
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:12:00 -
[21] - Quote
BUMP CCP! |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
47
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:15:00 -
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You know weeks ago I would never have even considered Afking in the MCC....since starting two new toons....its almost mandatory, you get kicked out of academy way to early to even really achieve anything in the battlefield besides being meat for the proto vets....
Wouldn't mind sticking in academy until I have 2 mill SP.... |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
9
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:03:00 -
[23] - Quote
bump CCP! |
A B Ablabab
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
25
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Posted - 2013.07.06 14:13:00 -
[24] - Quote
I do find it amusing people say things like "Tell CCP to make a game worth playing". But spend hours each day putting themselves in matches just so they can AFK.
It's a game. People play games to have fun. If you're AFKing because you're not having fun then grats, you've just invented a job you get paid SP for. GG. |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX. Top Men.
307
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Posted - 2013.07.06 16:23:00 -
[25] - Quote
A B Ablabab wrote:I do find it amusing people say things like "Tell CCP to make a game worth playing". But spend hours each day putting themselves in matches just so they can AFK.
It's a game. People play games to have fun. If you're AFKing because you're not having fun then grats, you've just invented a job you get paid SP for. GG.
Quoted for Truth. +1 |
Henchmen21
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2013.07.06 17:57:00 -
[26] - Quote
Michael Arck wrote:Yesterday I jumped in a Skirm and spawned in a MCC. It was like I was spawned right ontop the open cargo bay because soon as I was in game I was falling down to the battlefield and I noticed several other guys were spawning the same way...
Just me?
Happened to me a day after suggesting just that. Tried again to confirm, no dice. Shame. |
Croned
C0NTRA UNIT
63
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:08:00 -
[27] - Quote
While this was entertaining to watch, CCP is already well aware of this issue and is taking steps to correct it. |
The Cobra Commander
Bojo's School of the Trades
58
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:17:00 -
[28] - Quote
A B Ablabab wrote:I do find it amusing people say things like "Tell CCP to make a game worth playing". But spend hours each day putting themselves in matches just so they can AFK.
It's a game. People play games to have fun. If you're AFKing because you're not having fun then grats, you've just invented a job you get paid SP for. GG.
You get a +1 from me! One has to be a straight up loser or have no life if they log into a damn video game just to farm SP. I wonder do they get a 1099 or do they just get a W2? Lol!!! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4450
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:20:00 -
[29] - Quote
Don't expect a fix for at least another 6 months, if CCP fixes AFK then many of those players will likely quit or take a break. Many AFK players buy boosters, boosters means money for CCP, money for CCP equals no AFK fix anytime soon.
It's blatantly obvious that CCP prefers this style of "play" by the simple fact that they refuse to remove MCC spawn until it's fixed. That wouldn't completely solve the problem, but it would definitely reduce it.
CCP looks at AFK as emergent gameplay.
Metagame people. Welcome to New Eden.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
708
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:25:00 -
[30] - Quote
LOL the OP was AFKing too 0wp 0/1. double standard much? |
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Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
209
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:31:00 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:You know weeks ago I would never have even considered Afking in the MCC....since starting two new toons....its almost mandatory, you get kicked out of academy way to early to even really achieve anything in the battlefield besides being meat for the proto vets....
Wouldn't mind sticking in academy until I have 2 mill SP.... My advice is to make SMG Operation IV, SMG Sharpshooter II, Grenades I and Shield Upgrades III your first skills. The ADV Assault SMG is powerful with surprising range and accuracy, also inexpensive. With Flux grenades in case of shield-stacked Caldari and a smart approach to play the SMG and Recruit AR will give enough power to overcome better suits.
They'll have an edge in straight up duking it out so try not to let it come to that. Most of all do not look at a Prototype suit and just give up. See it as a problem to solve. Get motivated. Nothing like wrecking expensive stuff and overcoming an opponent with an irrefutable stat advantage over you.
The difference between low SP fits and maxed out ones is big, yeah. Don't let it get you down though, fearing better fits is just as bad as throwing yourself at them. Keep it smart and try to make use of the complacency that makes many CalProtos so predictable. It's like a boss fight, the thrill of trying to defeat something that is more than you are.
Though 10k WP is waaay too soon to kick new players out of the academy. |
The Cobra Commander
Bojo's School of the Trades
61
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:32:00 -
[32] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:Don't expect a fix for at least another 6 months, if CCP fixes AFK then many of those players will likely quit or take a break. Many AFK players buy boosters, boosters means money for CCP, money for CCP equals no AFK fix anytime soon.
It's blatantly obvious that CCP prefers this style of "play" by the simple fact that they refuse to remove MCC spawn until it's fixed. That wouldn't completely solve the problem, but it would definitely reduce it.
CCP looks at AFK as emergent gameplay.
Metagame people. Welcome to New Eden.
That maybe so but like I said in another post this crap will continue to erode the player base into oblivion...this along with all the other problems. Last night I had to listen to some new players try to figure out why the hell would 6 people just sit in the MCC and not help their team. Do you really think that these people are going to have positive opinions of the game?
But hey it's just metagame...I guess we should enjoy this metagame as the playerbase continues to fall and we are stuck playing with 12 people.
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Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
10
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:42:00 -
[33] - Quote
bump ccp |
Alucard Fang
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
46
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Posted - 2013.07.07 07:56:00 -
[34] - Quote
I don't think they could remove the MCC as a spawn point. Isn't that the only place you can spawn if all objectives get taken by the enemy? Can't always count on people to have dropships or drop uplinks thrown down. |
Kaz Kyzer
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:43:00 -
[35] - Quote
i hope we can do a afk kick |
Haulikko Sankari
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.07.07 08:50:00 -
[36] - Quote
I've grown extremely bored of the core gameplay in DUST so I'm waiting for the Amarr/Minmatar tanks to come out, I don't want to spend any SP before that happens.
It's better for my mental health to simply AFK the SP cap every week and grind the ISK I'll need for when the content I want gets added to the game. I'll lose so much SP if I don't do it, CCP please add a full passive SP system.
//EDIT - or I might just wait even longer for the MTACs, those might be fun |
Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
94
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:26:00 -
[37] - Quote
Daniyal Ranjbar wrote:bump Bumping is against forum policy. Please CCP ban this hooligan. |
Atom Heart Mother
We Who Walk Alone
7
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Posted - 2013.07.07 09:30:00 -
[38] - Quote
Daniyal Ranjbar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPHS98EnVdc&feature=youtu.be watch that video and read the description, its only 20 seconds long .the video shows it all. its not only in that game but basically everygame i play its like that. please have afk kick or something 8 players on my team were afk out of 16. thats half the team. we got demolished. watch the vid above! Video description: CCP do something about this, this is how it is every game, 8 players are afk which is half the team and we get dominated this game. Cant you make it so that you get no points or get kicked if you are in the mcc or even anywhere in the field for longer than 2 minutes or something like that, im sure u did this in the gun selection spawn point screen, so the true Dust players will be in the lobby instead of the afk noobs, We got absolutely demolished that game because the were 8 afk players on our team, there was also a few afk players on there team. do something about this, im sick of looking for players in dust when its a full game only because 4 players are playing, it makes me sick. send this to CCP.
..live and let live boy |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
16
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:15:00 -
[39] - Quote
bump ccp |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
358
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:22:00 -
[40] - Quote
I think if good proof is provided CCP should remove 1million SP 10million ISK, from those busted doing this |
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Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
127
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Posted - 2013.07.08 07:58:00 -
[41] - Quote
Sgt Buttscratch wrote:I think if good proof is provided CCP should remove 1million SP 10million ISK, from those busted doing this I think first step would have to be CCP telling us they do not condone AFKing.
Becasue, you know, since they introduced this mechanic and never spoke against it... maybe it's a part of core gameplay? Think about it.
Also I hoped to be in a video, but it seems it's not my turn to be (in)famous. |
Kiro Justice
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
289
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Posted - 2013.07.08 08:19:00 -
[42] - Quote
DUST Fiend wrote:Don't expect a fix for at least another 6 months, if CCP fixes AFK then many of those players will likely quit or take a break. Many AFK players buy boosters, boosters means money for CCP, money for CCP equals no AFK fix anytime soon.
It's blatantly obvious that CCP prefers this style of "play" by the simple fact that they refuse to remove MCC spawn until it's fixed. That wouldn't completely solve the problem, but it would definitely reduce it.
CCP looks at AFK as emergent gameplay.
Metagame people. Welcome to New Eden.
"WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! The game isn't what I Want!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Keep crying boyo.
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Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
16
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:16:00 -
[43] - Quote
bump ccp |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
177
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:38:00 -
[44] - Quote
We are Mercs after all, not filling our part of the deal is a thing that can be done without remorse is we want too.
Remember in that trailer when the guy was supposed to give orbital support and did not? Well, screw him! |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
824
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:45:00 -
[45] - Quote
CCP WATCH MY PINK PONY |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
511
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:47:00 -
[46] - Quote
Clearly all of them should file a stuck petition as they are frozen in the walls and stuff |
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
101
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:52:00 -
[47] - Quote
soooo.... what do you call what you were doing?
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Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
243
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:54:00 -
[48] - Quote
Yes. This needs to stop. Totally ruining the experience for those who actually want to play the game. So many born losers out there.. Talk about having no life.. |
Sollemnis Aelinos
89th Infantry Division
53
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Posted - 2013.07.08 10:54:00 -
[49] - Quote
a member from internal error also afk'd in mcc on our side. i sent him a mail telling about the contribution......he never replied |
GET ATMESON
NEW AGE EMPIRE The Family Syndicate
27
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Posted - 2013.07.08 11:00:00 -
[50] - Quote
GET ATMESON wrote:Daniyal Ranjbar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPHS98EnVdc&feature=youtu.be watch that video and read the description, its only 20 seconds long .the video shows it all. its not only in that game but basically everygame i play its like that. please have afk kick or something 8 players on my team were afk out of 16. thats half the team. we got demolished. watch the vid above! Video description: CCP do something about this, this is how it is every game, 8 players are afk which is half the team and we get dominated this game. Cant you make it so that you get no points or get kicked if you are in the mcc or even anywhere in the field for longer than 2 minutes or something like that, im sure u did this in the gun selection spawn point screen, so the true Dust players will be in the lobby instead of the afk noobs, We got absolutely demolished that game because the were 8 afk players on our team, there was also a few afk players on there team. do something about this, im sick of looking for players in dust when its a full game only because 4 players are playing, it makes me sick. send this to CCP. That could have been your friends doing this. All you have to do is leave squad and they turn blue. Not hard to get 8 players(squads of 4) in a FW or even a pub. Here is a tip for you. You see HALF your team(yea right) leave that game and play another one. QQ
Ill have to quote my self so you can see this and the little extra under this
If you read his comments on his youtube vid a person says "lol im in the video" Make sure if you do a vid on MCC campers let me see THE BEFORE BATTLE. So I know this isn't bull. |
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Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
21
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:20:00 -
[51] - Quote
bump cpp |
Manly Vehicle Operator
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:26:00 -
[52] - Quote
Your tears are delicious and salty. Next, please. |
WhiteMage7322
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
133
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:38:00 -
[53] - Quote
I don't care about AFKers but punishing them for doing so? That is stupid. I bet CCP knew this could happen and didn't do anything about it. Why punish players when CCP didn't add a timer for being inside the MCC for too long? Afkers has been happening for a while and CCP isn't saying anything about it, well at least to my knowledge. |
Knight SoIaire
Rent-A-Murder Taxi
1056
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:43:00 -
[54] - Quote
Came to see if I was in the video.
Left feeling disappointed. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention Caldari State
754
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:58:00 -
[55] - Quote
Came to expect this, left disappointed. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
156
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:04:00 -
[56] - Quote
Haulikko Sankari wrote:I've grown extremely bored of the core gameplay in DUST so I'm waiting for the Amarr/Minmatar tanks to come out, I don't want to spend any SP before that happens.
It's better for my mental health to simply AFK the SP cap every week and grind the ISK I'll need for when the content I want gets added to the game. I'll lose so much SP if I don't do it, CCP please add a full passive SP system.
There is passive SP. There's nothing that says you have to cap out every week, especially if you're bored with the gameplay. |
StubbyDucky
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
280
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:42:00 -
[57] - Quote
Reported
Good Day Sir
*Tips hat*
Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
24
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Posted - 2013.07.09 07:19:00 -
[58] - Quote
bump ccp |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
83
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Posted - 2013.07.09 08:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:Alina Heart wrote:Xero The Mishima wrote:
So...
You're part of the problem scrub. Bump. So we meet again Alina Heart... About the video: Anyone else saw that scout inside the wall? I cracked up the moment I saw that
im starting to think you could get a like for just posting a letter just one letter no not even a letter just a blank response |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
32
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:01:00 -
[60] - Quote
bump cpp |
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Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
174
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:17:00 -
[61] - Quote
I think the fact that not a single DEV has responded since this thread started might have been a hint. But then, when has logic ever been a high priority on a forum? |
Calroon DeVil
Internal Error. League of Infamy
72
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
Nothing has been done about AFK farming, so I guess it's an official game mode by now. At least we're still getting those store front updates regular, that's most important. Please, take my money. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
207
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:11:00 -
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i AFK because theres a skill cap to reach and im not always able(or even want) to dedicate my time to a game im not paying for.
having said this, if they simply did away with the feel-good 'participation' points for simply being in a match, people wouldnt afk in battles... make that bonus SP actually a BONUS for playing well rather than having a hard-cap of 1k/battle, even with bonus sp on triple sp week... either make it apply to active participation or make it apply to the passive sp gain, and there will be no reason to AFK farm such as this.
people are going to cap multiple characters a week if its based on warpoints, but how many of us cap 2+ characters already? experienced players will either cap a few extras, who dont stack since its not exactly easy swapping characters mid-battle, and newer players will actually want to learn how to play better...
pure passive means EVERYONE gets the weekly cap, discourages alt characters, and most notably devalues active boosters. ... or does it? 190k SP/week = 1130SP/hour by my math, meaning even capped you can still earn more SP/Hour by doing well in battles while ACTUALLY playing, meaning the no-lifers would still have reasons to purchase the active boosters...
i feel that this 'good intentioned' feature needs to be completely overhauled, and have said it before that if they did away with the feelgood bonus sp mechanic were currently using, that itd fix a lot of the problem better than AFK punt or worse yet vote-kick... 2 squads can get into matches with eachother fairly easily in merc battles, and would be able to kick other players just to allow their own buddies in. i say this because this is what i would do if given the option to punt people.
as for why AFK punt is a bad idea in my opinion, LIFE happens, and is often times more pressing than a videogame... people with children should understand what sort of situations i am implying... sometimes life takes 30 minutes, other times it takes only a few minutes or less... to have to IGNORE life so that you dont lose the payout for a nearly 30 minute match is not exactly what i would call a good time... now i realize its a serious and competitive game, but that i cant set my controller down when i NEED to, without fear of 'punishment', seems a little over severe |
Judy Maat
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
142
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:28:00 -
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I know a successful Free To Play game that took a dead end approach on afking.. League of legends.. every player have 5 second to acknowledge deployment. or they get kicked from the queue. it encourage COMMITMENT to the game you are about to play. vote kick or any other disruptive features that would issue a 'punishment' would be abused because you know.. it's New Eden and meta game is the game.. but if LIFE happen (kids, whatever..) then you should receive NOTHING and be kicked out after a debatable reasonable amount of time. |
SuperKing BigNuts
Contract Hunters
208
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:43:00 -
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idk if id agree to a 5 second confirmation to deployment after having seen some of the lag related issues of DUST... and would be frustrated having to confirm i wanted to play after having queued up into battle by myself... and would be more frustrating if i were out smoking between matches and the squad lead queued up without waiting, that id have to sit out for 30 minutes because i missed the first 30 seconds of a match...
i admit that the 'confirmation' mechanic does have its merits, but seems like there would be difficulties with the mechanic in the groups i normally play with, and all it really requires is that we take our smoke breaks AFTER starting a match rather than in the loading screens, match finding, and pre-game lobby...
but as i said, i still feel they should revamp the entire bonus sp system, to either be ALL passive, or based STRICTLY upon match performance, rather than simply 'time in battle' |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
33
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:11:00 -
[66] - Quote
bump ccp |
Daniyal Ranjbar
DaniyalR
37
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:36:00 -
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just had a game with 10 players were afk :/ ill upload a video |
The Cobra Commander
Bojo's School of the Trades
73
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:27:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:I think the fact that not a single DEV has responded since this thread started might have been a hint. But then, when has logic ever been a high priority on a forum?
Yeah it is crazy...they could have fixed this by now but it seems they don't care. It cannot be that hard to come up with a system to get people out of the MCC. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
128
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:37:00 -
[69] - Quote
I have a thread on this as well
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=92798 |
Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:48:00 -
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That is a lot of people, I must say the most I saw was during the triple sp week... but that was only 5 or 6... :S I think afk booting is only a partial solution, as I imagine some of those people afked themselves after they got stomped by the initial "wave"... and just pretty much gave up. Better matchmaking will reduce this, and they've already said they're looking at this. The 2nd will be more engaging game play by adding more game modes, better balancing in general and by the recent CPM posts I believe this is also on the cards. |
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Washlee
Not Guilty EoN.
178
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:50:00 -
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Come on bro they're on smoke and coffee break. |
Aythadis Smith
The Generals EoN.
67
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:26:00 -
[72] - Quote
I've heard of wall flowers.... |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
248
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:46:00 -
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Daniyal Ranjbar wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPHS98EnVdc&feature=youtu.be watch that video and read the description, its only 20 seconds long .the video shows it all. its not only in that game but basically everygame i play its like that. please have afk kick or something 8 players on my team were afk out of 16. thats half the team. we got demolished. watch the vid above! Video description: CCP do something about this, this is how it is every game, 8 players are afk which is half the team and we get dominated this game. Cant you make it so that you get no points or get kicked if you are in the mcc or even anywhere in the field for longer than 2 minutes or something like that, im sure u did this in the gun selection spawn point screen, so the true Dust players will be in the lobby instead of the afk noobs, We got absolutely demolished that game because the were 8 afk players on our team, there was also a few afk players on there team. do something about this, im sick of looking for players in dust when its a full game only because 4 players are playing, it makes me sick. send this to CCP. They did it for probably two reasons, One being that they were completely dominated by the Enemy, and didn't feel the need to throw their ISKies away (Provided they are like me and only use my 10K ISK fit...) in a battle they had a large disadvantage to winning in.
Another issue, which can cause issue number one, is that MIL and STD users end up getting Pubstomped quite a bit, which goes back to why throw your ISKies away trying to kill somebody who, if you go one on one, you may deal some damage before he kills you, before you respawn and get back to him to deal more damage, he has already healed up the damage you dealt him.
We need a way to get rid of AFKers and Kick them, but if those two issues were solved, then AFKing would drop substantially. |
Nebra Tene
Roaming Blades
116
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:54:00 -
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StubbyDucky wrote:Reported Good Day Sir *Tips hat* Quote:4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
Don't forget:
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