In my opinion, protgear is supposed to be ridiculously more expensive for that "tiny bit more" just in case you really, really need it, otherwise you do run the risk of everyone always using it 24/7, it becoming meaningless, and giving you god-mode.

Also, really not sure how you calculated that DPS... At all.

there is. proficiency. a gek with lvl5 pro is mean

Anyone else thinks prototype weapons are pointless?
With some exceptions, most of the times it's better to stick to advanced gear, as the price/performance is the best there.
Prototype weapons skyrocket in the price department and usually only give you a slightly stronger weapon.

For example, the duvolle AR vs standard AR?
42.5 DPS difference.
Price difference?
Duvolle costs 30x as much.

Now, I know that the difference between proto and standard gear is big already, but shouldn't there be a good reason to go up the levels for weapons?

Anyone got ideas how to solve this problem without making prototype weapons god mode?

Anyone else thinks prototype weapons are pointless?
With some exceptions, most of the times it's better to stick to advanced gear, as the price/performance is the best there.
Prototype weapons skyrocket in the price department and usually only give you a slightly stronger weapon.

For example, the duvolle AR vs standard AR?
42.5 DPS difference.
Price difference?
Duvolle costs 30x as much.

Now, I know that the difference between proto and standard gear is big already, but shouldn't there be a good reason to go up the levels for weapons?

Anyone got ideas how to solve this problem without making prototype weapons god mode?

/me pats his Ishukone Assault Forge Gun

There, there precious. The silly cat is comparing you to a DAU/2A, how silly he is.

/me pats his Ishukone Assault Forge Gun

There, there precious. The silly cat is comparing you to a DAU/2A, how silly he is.

I think what Cat is trying to say is, it's not the weapons performance that is in question, it's the price versus the performance, and he has a good point, the price ain't right, the amount of Isk we make from a match isn't a lot, I can get more from using an advance over a proto, unless I'm doing a PC there really is no valid point in using proto.

I think what Cat is trying to say is, it's not the weapons performance that is in question, it's the price versus the performance, and he has a good point, the price ain't right, the amount of Isk we make from a match isn't a lot, I can get more from using an advance over a proto, unless I'm doing a PC there really is no valid point in using proto.

Are proto weapons pointless?m
Noway! Every las one of them can give any player that winning edge.
Are the worth the price variance?
That depends on YOU.

What makes proto AR's worthwhile is the range, not the damage.

Well proto was meant to be endgame gear. The stuff you whipout for important game altering matches, but here we are roling proto in pubs. It might not be expensive enough.

proto weapons on adv suit for me

I think Prototype gear is priced right. (Not talking about price/performance, just the end game idea)
The problem is that after the respec so many vets had ludicrous amounts of money that they could run proto gear for months and still be space rich

If this game doesn't die then prototype gear will just be another step along the way to better gear. Basically, proto will become middle of the road as time goes on.[...]

I really hope that exactly this does not happen. We really don't need the "AR of statistical superiority" an the likes that do nothing but devaluate existing content.

CCP did a decent job avoiding power creep in eve and i hope they translate this into dust.

Personally I wish it would be harder to use proto gear, a lot harder in fact. I've got close to 200 mill and I don't die that much. If I wanted I could just run proto gear most of the time. Maybe having tier separation in pub games would be a step in the right direction for balancing it.