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          Surt gods end 
          Demon Ronin
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 15:29:00 -
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          Like title says. Sometimes snipers can't cover all views. spotters stay close to snipers and point targets for them. 
  *you weren't pointing targets. you were bored, and decided to jump up and down next to snipers making the THEM targets * 
  I was trying to get a better view! Any way what do I get for my help? hate mail! 
  *You don't say?!  *
  I was just as shocked. One of them read "U suck". Now does he mean I suck at spotting or as a player? 
  * *
  what? | 
      
      
      
          
          LXicon 
          Ill Omens EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 15:39:00 -
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          i'm not sure if you are a sniper asking for quality spotters or if you want to spot for snipers. your post is not clear as you are speaking for both sides.
  if you want a spotter, pay them ISK so you can get kills and WP while they play "i spy"
  if you want to spot, then be sure you are more stealthy than the sniper. if you drawn more attention to the sniper than they would have without you, you are not helping. | 
      
      
      
          
          Ryder Azorria 
          Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 15:44:00 -
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          It's not like windage, moving targets (from a time to target perspective) or bullet drop are issues, so wouldn't two snipers with headsets be more effective? | 
      
      
      
          
          loumanchew 
          Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 15:46:00 -
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          Finding the right spot as a sniper is a little bit of an art because all the good spots are known so you have to position yourself in accordance with the battle rather than always going at the same obvious spot. This being said, It always amazes me when I see another sniper come right next to me and starts spamming his rifle without killing much and therefore making my cover known. I am not sure if it is because they are new and try to learn or if it is just a lack of understanding of the ingr+Źdients that make you obvious to the ennemy. Regardless, please stop following other snipers, it's just stupid. A spotter is one of the worst ideas I heard. | 
      
      
      
          
          Surt gods end 
          Demon Ronin
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 16:26:00 -
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          I'll stop. I admit it. I'm not a good spotter.  
 
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  what? | 
      
      
      
          
          calisk galern 
          BurgezzE.T.F
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 16:27:00 -
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          I really wish there was a better way for squad members to point targets for me.
  I usually get the following useful info
  - he's in the hills
  - he's south..ish....maybe east...
  - i'm being shot by a sniper, kill him
  - I think he might be on a building
  - **** i'm being shot by a sniper
  - seriously he's in the redline.
 
  trust me all useful info, I mean it helps to alert me that there is a sniper somewhere..... | 
      
      
      
          
          Appia Vibbia 
          Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 16:56:00 -
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          See, most people that call out snipers have been here on DUST for a very long time. They think that a Sniper can just survey across the field and be a lookout, a spotter, or scout. But they don't understand the changes to Uprising. That we are blind. We can only see an enemy if they are within 200m (1.0 it was 100, 1.1 made it 100m on a flat plane). If you zoom in you can see up to 500m. But that is it, to zoom in on someone you have to know they are there before they get there... So you need a spotter. But this "spotter" can't be like a real-life sniper's spotter. Being next to them is dumber than putting your hand on a lit stove.
  Spotting for a sniper will be an incidental thing. If you can see them (and they're within 500m) then I can see them. But if you can't see them then neither can I.
  Also bullets leave contrails... The lower tier your rifle the longer that contrail persists. If you and your derpy little mlt sniper rifle come anywhere near me you are blowing my cover. unless you have a Caldari suit with 4 complex damage mods you're either being less than worthless, or just trying to steal kills. | 
      
      
      
          
          Matticus Monk 
          Ordus Trismegistus
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 17:20:00 -
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          IEvery sniper I've ever gotten close to and executed probably would have had a much greater chance of living if they had a stealthy spotter close by who was scanning a wider area for them. A lot of times I've approached snipers within 50 - 60 degrees of their line of sight.... (many times I've also just come up behind them)
  Sure, he'll see me....
  Almost there.... maybe he won't see me?
  Really?!? he let me get behind him and I can line up a headshot with a scrambler pistol??? 
  Okay. Bye-bye.... | 
      
      
      
          
          TheAmazing FlyingPig 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 17:27:00 -
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          Why have a spotter when you could have two snipers? | 
      
      
      
          
          Surt gods end 
          Demon Ronin
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 17:39:00 -
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          *how long you think before some one figures out what this thread is really about?*
  Probably after 4pm when those that know me, read this and shake their head. lol | 
      
      
      
          
          Nocturnal Soul 
          Immortal Retribution
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 17:53:00 -
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          no need for a spotter just look in that direction, know where the battle is, know all the good spots. the last one takes time or following other snipers | 
      
      
      
          
          Rogatien Merc 
          Ill Omens EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 18:01:00 -
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          Surt gods end wrote:Like title says. Sometimes snipers can't cover all views. spotters stay close to snipers and point targets for them.  *you weren't pointing targets. you were bored, and decided to jump up and down next to snipers making the THEM targets  *  I was trying to get a better view! Any way what do I get for my help? hate mail!  *You don't say?!   * I was just as shocked. One of them read "U suck". Now does he mean I suck at spotting or as a player?  *  * what?    I prefer to be an AR on the flank of the battle toward my overwatch sniper bro and targets and coordinate movement.
  Synching targets and advances with effective overwatch: loads of fun for an entire squad. | 
      
      
      
          
          Severance Pay 
          Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 18:05:00 -
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          This is perfect example of a misunderstanding of the sniping job. 
  Squad leader = mafia don Sniper = hit man
  Mafia don orders a hit on someone. Sniper carries out the hit. It is pretty much that simple. Otherwise a sniper shouldn't need a sniper because they can see targets that are in any teammate's line of sight. | 
      
      
      
          
          X---------------------X 
          Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 18:06:00 -
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          Just what we need two useless players in the hills not contributing to the actually game | 
      
      
      
          
          LUGMOS 
          YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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        Posted - 2013.07.05 18:10:00 -
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          Matticus Monk wrote:IEvery sniper I've ever gotten close to and executed probably would have had a much greater chance of living if they had a stealthy spotter close by who was scanning a wider area for them. A lot of times I've approached snipers within 50 - 60 degrees of their line of sight.... (many times I've also just come up behind them)
  Sure, he'll see me....
  Almost there.... maybe he won't see me?
  Really?!? he let me get behind him and I can line up a headshot with a scrambler pistol??? 
  Okay. Bye-bye....  
  Something I want to try is call in a free LAV on their head. Squish. | 
      
      
      
          
          Mobias Wyvern 
          Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.07.06 00:22:00 -
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          Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
 
 Planetside 2  
 Coming to PS4 this year 
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          Surt gods end 
          Demon Ronin
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        Posted - 2013.07.06 00:30:00 -
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          Mobias Wyvern wrote:Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2  
 Coming to PS4 this year  
 
 
  Your trying to hard. It's a given that when the ps4 comes out, dust will lose even more players. But the way your going about this, I have to ask... where did the mean old Dust514 touch you? 
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          Ferindar Radniref 
          The Malevolent Monkey Militia
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 00:59:00 -
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          LUGMOS wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:IEvery sniper I've ever gotten close to and executed probably would have had a much greater chance of living if they had a stealthy spotter close by who was scanning a wider area for them. A lot of times I've approached snipers within 50 - 60 degrees of their line of sight.... (many times I've also just come up behind them)
  Sure, he'll see me....
  Almost there.... maybe he won't see me?
  Really?!? he let me get behind him and I can line up a headshot with a scrambler pistol??? 
  Okay. Bye-bye....  Something I want to try is call in a free LAV on their head. Squish.  
  I have done that before with my Sniper Tank. I'd see a sniper where I want to be, sneak up over to him, call my tank.. And he was just oblivious until dead. I wish I could have heard him when the tank landed on his head. | 
      
      
      
          
          Michael Arck 
          sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 01:03:00 -
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          LOL. Hey I thought that was cool that you did that. I would have gotten the notion that you're helping after a while. People can be ignorant jerks. I mean, you're playing a game as a team but want to be Han Solo about stuff? Can't you notice when a teammate/squadmate is trying to help you? No one merc is the hero. Get over yourself. I hate that. | 
      
      
      
          
          Green Living 
          0uter.Heaven
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 01:11:00 -
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          EVERY GIMP NEEDS A PIMP | 
      
      
      
          
          Karazantor 
          Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 01:16:00 -
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          I love people being 'helpful'.
  Like when i've run almost up to the enemies redline, keeping out of sight, and some blue blasts up behind me in an LAV and starts pushing, blowing the horn. NO, I don't want to get in your clown car. F off.
  Or a random blue runs up and stand next to me on my perch and starts popping off with a swarm launcher. Yeah I iz smart.
  Best one recently was a blue tank decided to park next to me, blocking my sight. Of course the enemy team instantly called in an orbital to get him  
  So keep up the good work and keep 'helping'. Thanks blues. | 
      
      
      
          
          First Prophet 
          Jaguar Empire
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 01:20:00 -
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          Surt gods end you are my hero. | 
      
      
      
          
          Cass Barr 
          Red Star. EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 01:27:00 -
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          lol
  Lots of dense people in here, though
 
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          Scheneighnay McBob 
          Bojo's School of the Trades
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 01:30:00 -
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          Snipers ARE spotters. | 
      
      
      
          
          Iron Wolf Saber 
          Den of Swords
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 01:30:00 -
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          Would kill for a precision active scanner to tag high value targets for snipers. | 
      
      
      
          
          Karazantor 
          Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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        Posted - 2013.07.07 01:35:00 -
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          Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Would kill for a precision active scanner to tag high value targets for snipers.   
  Very much. I regret skilling into active scanner on my shotty scout. 
  A few games later I was using a basic scout suit with militia dampeners in it. The enemy knew where I was, they tried to scan me about 5 times, each time I received a nice little popup telling me 'scan attempt foiled' or something along those lines. 
  For the record I haven't found a single scout with it, and that was my original aim. A rather hopeless novelty item at present. | 
      
      
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