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Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.05 19:43:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:It seems like DUST is a place where "Better Safe Than Sorry" doesn't exist.
Get a whole bunch of bugged money, money that doesn't belong to you and you know it's a bug that'll get fixed? No biggie, spend it all, you'll get to keep everything.
Do something stupid like Cap out before the 3x SP event starts? No problem, your cap will get reset, so you'll get 4x SP.
I guess next time something happens, I'll take the stupidest route, because it seems like I'll gain the most from that.
I thought those that spent the mistaken isk ended up with negative wallets? Also if you looked at the intended process there should have no loss from playing on Wednesday, but there was because it didn't perform as intended, so neither of those situations supports your premise. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:00:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Meconium Blue wrote: Since its very clear CCP can not manage SP. Can they give a 30 day omega to all who capped on Wednesday? That would make up for the SP missed out on and the possibility to gain a little extra for the "Overtime" we put in.
Why? Because you guys couldn't wait until Thursday to start playing and cap out? You seem like the type that feels entitled to equal treatment despite the dissonance between our conditions. So, the next time you ever get an opportunity to find yourself a benefit that gives you a LITTLE bit of an edge, I'm going to come on the forums and ask for everything you received, despite the fact that you took an opportunity by planning for it in advance. Sorry mate, but this is the world of EVE Online; The people who use their brain more than their instinct for the pursuit of decision-making find themselves rewarded more than the common man. (Of course, this is very context-specific, but in this scenario, if CCP gave Omega boosters to everyone who capped on Wednesday cause they COULDN'T wait until Thursday, they are going to **** off a lot of people, including myself.) "Success always comes where preparation meets opportunity" -Henry Hartman
Many people who played on Wednesday did it not because they weren't paying attention, leaving them unaware of the event, or because of a failed understanding of the event. They did it because they wanted to play that day, understood what the intended result was and decided playing a few extra matches to get to that 570k number wasn't an issue. There was no reason to wait outside of playing less based on the intended change to the cap for the event.
This wasn't a lack of prep on their part. This wasn't a result of impatience on ignorance. This was the result of a system not performing as intended and giving unforeseeable advantages based upon the attempts by CCP to rectify the original mistake. There was no way to anticipate this and no use of your brain to prevent it. Your insults are completely baseless, and I suspect your understanding is possibly lacking based upon your failure to comprehend that. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.05 21:57:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Promethius Franklin wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Meconium Blue wrote: Since its very clear CCP can not manage SP. Can they give a 30 day omega to all who capped on Wednesday? That would make up for the SP missed out on and the possibility to gain a little extra for the "Overtime" we put in.
Why? Because you guys couldn't wait until Thursday to start playing and cap out? You seem like the type that feels entitled to equal treatment despite the dissonance between our conditions. So, the next time you ever get an opportunity to find yourself a benefit that gives you a LITTLE bit of an edge, I'm going to come on the forums and ask for everything you received, despite the fact that you took an opportunity by planning for it in advance. Sorry mate, but this is the world of EVE Online; The people who use their brain more than their instinct for the pursuit of decision-making find themselves rewarded more than the common man. (Of course, this is very context-specific, but in this scenario, if CCP gave Omega boosters to everyone who capped on Wednesday cause they COULDN'T wait until Thursday, they are going to **** off a lot of people, including myself.) "Success always comes where preparation meets opportunity" -Henry Hartman Many people who played on Wednesday did it not because they weren't paying attention, leaving them unaware of the event, or because of a failed understanding of the event. They did it because they wanted to play that day, understood what the intended result was and decided playing a few extra matches to get to that 570k number wasn't an issue. There was no reason to wait outside of playing less based on the intended change to the cap for the event. This wasn't a lack of prep on their part. This wasn't a result of impatience on ignorance. This was the result of a system not performing as intended and giving unforeseeable advantages based upon the attempts by CCP to rectify the original mistake. There was no way to anticipate this and no use of your brain to prevent it. Your insults are completely baseless, and I suspect your understanding is possibly lacking based upon your failure to comprehend that. Well, I agree with you on the first paragraph of your statement, but your assumption of me generating insults (and therefore, indirectly insulting me afterward with your "idea" that I didn't understand the principality of this matter) is far from correct. However, these are the forums, so I expect behavior like this out of spite. And for your assumption that there was no way to anticipate this, I think you may want to retract it and consider reading the thread a couple more times, because I'm not the only one here that knew there would be a foreseeable event to take advantage of. Regardless, this accident and how you perform your decision, is what incorporates the long-term advantage in Dust 514. Anyway, I'll stop feeding the fire for a bit, and hop back on Dust, cause god knows, I have alot of SP to consider allocating...
I could very well be wrong about your understanding, but I can't retract the fact that your retorts of entitlement complexes, accusations of impatience, citing the usage of ones brain (which while it may not have been INTENDED as an insult, it clearly becomes one as it insinuates that a lack of intelligence or mental investment lead to the current situation) , and the final quote citing preparation all become salt in the wounds of those who through no fault of their own became the victims of someone else' mistake.
As far as the thread, I have read it. Again, on Wednesday there was no potential advantage to waiting save play time as the error which occurred during Thursday's downtime was unable to be anticipated. When chance and/or the errors of others falls in your favor it is in no way a sign of superior activity or planning on your part. Your only claim is that you profited by waiting. This is correct, but lets not pretend you outsmarted the system to any extent. You got lucky. Plain and simple. Remember, the reset you are currently taking advantage of was never intended to happen, couldn't have been anticipated on Wednesday, and shouldn't have had any affect on total potential SP gains. I, like you, am getting more than I would have since I did not cap Wednesday, but I am under no illusions of superiority based upon the outcome. |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:21:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:
Well, to end an argument, I definitely don't have any "illusions of superiority" (not that you were discretely implying that), but I have to agree with you to an extent. I feel that the only part of this SP exploit scenario that was under our control was saving our SP cap for Thursday by not playing on Wednesday, while the reset on SP cap for Friday was unpredictable by anyone's part. I am only arguing the first portion of the scenario.
I will say this though; I feel that since the cap was reset on Friday downtime, the amount of SP they COULD have gotten before the downtime should be added on top of the cap that was reset on Friday.
P.S.: Thanks for being very mature about getting your point across in your argument; It's nice to see a rational arguer as supposed to a person who tries to get their point across by leaving the Caps Lock on.
I like your solution, though I'm not sure how easily that could be implemented or how closely it was tracked to begin with, or what new errors it could open us up to. The actions taken feel like the best "safe" bet with that in mind.
Though in the end what's in the past is done and, as you stated, nothing is left but for us all to log in and earn that SP. |
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