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The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines 10	Posted - 2013.07.05 00:45:00 - [1] - Quote So driving my lav pass by enemy blaster installation got shot out of lav, my lav was unscratch i was like ok nothing i can do installation is a Ai with 100% targerting to players, few matches later got my lav stolen so i chase the guy who took it, my lav has blaster a good 3min chasing him he get on the blaster turrent and shoots my lav but i notice my lav is not taking any damage but i was, and just like that he kills me thats twice already third time i was getting shot by a typical madrugar with rail like always the tank hits me twice my lav got hurt abit which it was weird but again my hp took a big hit So can u fix that glitch i know u can shoot the driver but this is kinda bad
N1ck Comeau Pro Hic Immortalis 595	Posted - 2013.07.05 00:48:00 - [2] - Quote Sounds like bad luck
The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines 10	Posted - 2013.07.05 01:08:00 - [3] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Sounds like bad luck Then i must be really unlucky got shot by a missle in my lav and surprise surprise i die and my lav survives. Im just **** atm Just got orbitaled out of my lav -_-
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 481	Posted - 2013.07.05 01:40:00 - [4] - Quote Look at it from the view of those of us that hate the Murder Taxi Game from CCP/Shanghai. The absolute worse aspect of Dust 514 next to the Wang Nerf Hammer of Doom. It takes no skill, gets free kills and can consistently drive, penalty free, over the most Proto suit out there regardless of the price differentials not to mention SP balances. Now add the recent HP buff to LAVs, the tendency to have some actually skill up in LAVs so they have 4000+ eHP and popping the driver is a better solution. I Always Aim At The Driver and I always have, or the gunner. My normal Tank driver when I am Gunning has been popping drivers of late, it makes a Murder Taxi on the field more fun for us. The pricey LAV is left on the field, ripe for the stealing or the +40 for blowing that hated balance destroying device up. Everybody wins. You learn to avoid Turrets like HAVs do and we get to kill you even when we cannot kill the LAV. Have a nice day.
KING CHECKMATE A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy 160	Posted - 2013.07.05 02:12:00 - [5] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: So driving my lav pass by enemy blaster installation got shot out of lav, my lav was unscratch i was like ok nothing i can do installation is a Ai with 100% targerting to players, few matches later got my lav stolen so i chase the guy who took it, my lav has blaster a good 3min chasing him he get on the blaster turrent and shoots my lav but i notice my lav is not taking any damage but i was, and just like that he kills me thats twice already third time i was getting shot by a typical madrugar with rail like always the tank hits me twice my lav got hurt abit which it was weird but again my hp took a big hit So can u fix that glitch i know u can shoot the driver but this is kinda bad ITS NOT A GLITCH. LAV's have NO ROOF, and even if you LAV Taxi drivers can run around with 3500 LAV's your suit is still as squishy as your skill. So getting close to an LAV and shooting you in the face with a Shotgun will kill you even if you are in a LAV....and with a turret too, same on.... Cant believe you are even complaining about this. Sometimes im in a turret hunting for LAV and these Poto logi LAV that are near INVINCIBLE and can take direct fire of a turret for more than 30-40 seconds? (BTW WT* CCP?) and you expect for the driver to be untouchable too... U mad kid....
Mobias Wyvern Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.07.06 00:45:00 - [6] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2166	Posted - 2013.07.06 00:55:00 - [7] - Quote Mobias Wyvern wrote: Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets In the interest of presenting the full picture: The Enclave Leaves Planetside 2 After Months of No Fights and Broken Patches and Updates CEOPyrex on Supporting Dust 514
The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines 10	Posted - 2013.07.06 20:15:00 - [8] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: The Final Fantasy wrote: So driving my lav pass by enemy blaster installation got shot out of lav, my lav was unscratch i was like ok nothing i can do installation is a Ai with 100% targerting to players, few matches later got my lav stolen so i chase the guy who took it, my lav has blaster a good 3min chasing him he get on the blaster turrent and shoots my lav but i notice my lav is not taking any damage but i was, and just like that he kills me thats twice already third time i was getting shot by a typical madrugar with rail like always the tank hits me twice my lav got hurt abit which it was weird but again my hp took a big hit So can u fix that glitch i know u can shoot the driver but this is kinda bad ITS NOT A GLITCH. LAV's have NO ROOF, and even if you LAV Taxi drivers can run around with 3500 LAV's your suit is still as squishy as your skill. So getting close to an LAV and shooting you in the face with a Shotgun will kill you even if you are in a LAV....and with a turret too, same on.... Cant believe you are even complaining about this. Sometimes im in a turret hunting for LAV and these Poto logi LAV that are near INVINCIBLE and can take direct fire of a turret for more than 30-40 seconds? (BTW WT* CCP?) and you expect for the driver to be untouchable too... U mad kid.... Dont u read im saying all these death come from auto targeting the driver my lav doesnt get scratch i do and last time i saw driving at full speed mean missing the driver 90% of the time but not for turrents and orbital...go troll somewhere else
The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines 10	Posted - 2013.07.06 20:23:00 - [9] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: Look at it from the view of those of us that hate the Murder Taxi Game from CCP/Shanghai. The absolute worse aspect of Dust 514 next to the Wang Nerf Hammer of Doom. It takes no skill, gets free kills and can consistently drive, penalty free, over the most Proto suit out there regardless of the price differentials not to mention SP balances. Now add the recent HP buff to LAVs, the tendency to have some actually skill up in LAVs so they have 4000+ eHP and popping the driver is a better solution. I Always Aim At The Driver and I always have, or the gunner. My normal Tank driver when I am Gunning has been popping drivers of late, it makes a Murder Taxi on the field more fun for us. The pricey LAV is left on the field, ripe for the stealing or the +40 for blowing that hated balance destroying device up. Everybody wins. You learn to avoid Turrets like HAVs do and we get to kill you even when we cannot kill the LAV. Have a nice day. I run a expensive logi lav 400k i dont risk my lav by using them to run ppl over, and another thing i should be able to out run blaster turrents not get shot out of it the instant i pass by them
xLTShinySidesx Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 461	Posted - 2013.07.06 20:45:00 - [10] - Quote I missed this thread when I posted mine but I'm having the same issue, I skilled into LLAVS two days ago and I already won't drive them anymore unless this is fixed. 8 llavs I've called in over the last couple days, every one of them I was killed and my vehicle survived. Tanks shoot my vehicle in the back, it kills me. AV nade thrown at my vehicle, it kills me and hardly even scratches my vehicle. Tank shoots my vehicle from across the map, it kills me (even if he shoots the passenger side). Mlt lav rams me head on, he blows up, my vehicle survives, it kills my gunner. I get shot at by a light weapon while driving away from the guy, my suit is taking damage, not the vehicle. There is a glitch going on here, no matter how much you hate LAVS... This needs fixed.

Commander Tzu L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2013.07.07 00:35:00 - [11] - Quote Again, you are completely open in an LAV, if you are close to someone with an assault rifle chances are he is going to aim for YOU not your LLAV that he can't do damage to. LLAVs can survive proto rail guns but the driver is still exposed to any incoming fire. I would have to imagine that you are being affected by splash damage as well, if your LLAV is hit and the splash radius is 2.5m and you are within that range I am pretty sure you're going to take splash damage considering the exposed nature of the passenger compartment and gunner position. As for auto targeting turrets killing you out of LLAVs, splash damage is what I would chalk it up to again for missle and rail turrets but for the blasters they are probably aiming for the middle of vehicle so depending on the angle that could mean the shots are going right through your chest.
The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines 10	Posted - 2013.07.07 00:51:00 - [12] - Quote Commander Tzu wrote: Again, you are completely open in an LAV, if you are close to someone with an assault rifle chances are he is going to aim for YOU not your LLAV that he can't do damage to. LLAVs can survive proto rail guns but the driver is still exposed to any incoming fire. I would have to imagine that you are being affected by splash damage as well, if your LLAV is hit and the splash radius is 2.5m and you are within that range I am pretty sure you're going to take splash damage considering the exposed nature of the passenger compartment and gunner position. As for auto targeting turrets killing you out of LLAVs, splash damage is what I would chalk it up to again for missle and rail turrets but for the blasters they are probably aiming for the middle of vehicle so depending on the angle that could mean the shots are going right through your chest. The lav being open has nothing to do with this only sniper can shoot out the lav driver anybody else and i would have to be either stuck or just afk in my lav. like i said bullets will miss the driver like 90% of the time its just turrent and orbitals that kills you out of the lav the only splash damg i recieve was from from rails and for missles they just kill me not even splash
SteelDark Knight Internal Error. League of Infamy 44	Posted - 2013.07.10 14:10:00 - [13] - Quote This is indeed a bug and is not shots directly hitting the driver. You can use any 'Blaster" equipped unit to shoot the LAV itself and they will pass through the structure of the LAV and hit the driver. Balance issues with LAV's are a separate BALANCING issue to address but this is a bug.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 78	Posted - 2013.07.10 17:06:00 - [14] - Quote nerf blasters
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 78	Posted - 2013.07.10 17:08:00 - [15] - Quote The Final Fantasy wrote: Commander Tzu wrote: Again, you are completely open in an LAV, if you are close to someone with an assault rifle chances are he is going to aim for YOU not your LLAV that he can't do damage to. LLAVs can survive proto rail guns but the driver is still exposed to any incoming fire. I would have to imagine that you are being affected by splash damage as well, if your LLAV is hit and the splash radius is 2.5m and you are within that range I am pretty sure you're going to take splash damage considering the exposed nature of the passenger compartment and gunner position. As for auto targeting turrets killing you out of LLAVs, splash damage is what I would chalk it up to again for missle and rail turrets but for the blasters they are probably aiming for the middle of vehicle so depending on the angle that could mean the shots are going right through your chest. The lav being open has nothing to do with this only sniper can shoot out the lav driver anybody else and i would have to be either stuck or just afk in my lav. like i said bullets will miss the driver like 90% of the time its just turrent and orbitals that kills you out of the lav the only splash damg i recieve was from from rails and for missles they just kill me not even splash I can aim a driver down with my AR and still do little to no damage does this mean the drivers hit box should be bigger for infantry?
Stinker Butt Not Guilty EoN. 133	Posted - 2013.07.10 19:57:00 - [16] - Quote It's definitely a bug. I know because I use the bug to my advantage. switch to your blaster turret in your lav and start shooting other lav's. you can kill the drivers very quickly. no need to aim at the person, just shoot anywhere on the lav. Very easy to abuse.
Green Living 0uter.Heaven 560	Posted - 2013.07.11 01:45:00 - [17] - Quote Don't feel sorry for any scrub that uses LAV as a weapon. Get good or get blasted out of the driver seat.
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 55	Posted - 2013.07.11 06:31:00 - [18] - Quote At the moment the drivers hit box is messed up. If you notice in third person when your going faster your body kind of pops out into the gunners area. Also you would think they would either A have a roof already or B have a module that adds on a roof, or shield for the driver. Maybe a variant of the LAV like the Logistics gets a roof. On another note, Logistics Lav's are useless for the most part right now except for murder taxi because CCP hasn't added their passive bonus to repair nearby infantry.
Stinker Butt Not Guilty EoN. 134	Posted - 2013.07.12 20:55:00 - [19] - Quote Green Living wrote: Don't feel sorry for any scrub that uses LAV as a weapon. Get good or get blasted out of the driver seat. Nobody wants you to feels sorry for them. It's a bug that needs to be fixed and this thread is in the right section. If you don't want vehicles in the game, try the feedback section.
Jade Hasegawa Intrepidus XI EoN. 0	Posted - 2013.07.13 14:54:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: The Final Fantasy wrote: So driving my lav pass by enemy blaster installation got shot out of lav, my lav was unscratch i was like ok nothing i can do installation is a Ai with 100% targerting to players, few matches later got my lav stolen so i chase the guy who took it, my lav has blaster a good 3min chasing him he get on the blaster turrent and shoots my lav but i notice my lav is not taking any damage but i was, and just like that he kills me thats twice already third time i was getting shot by a typical madrugar with rail like always the tank hits me twice my lav got hurt abit which it was weird but again my hp took a big hit So can u fix that glitch i know u can shoot the driver but this is kinda bad ITS NOT A GLITCH. LAV's have NO ROOF, and even if you LAV Taxi drivers can run around with 3500 LAV's your suit is still as squishy as your skill. So getting close to an LAV and shooting you in the face with a Shotgun will kill you even if you are in a LAV....and with a turret too, same on.... Cant believe you are even complaining about this. Sometimes im in a turret hunting for LAV and these Poto logi LAV that are near INVINCIBLE and can take direct fire of a turret for more than 30-40 seconds? (BTW WT* CCP?) and you expect for the driver to be untouchable too... U mad kid.... So explain to me hpw when driving to an objective (note I don't murder taxi unless my team is useless, even then I would rather shoot someone), I was driving a Caldari Logi LAV someone threw an AV grenade I died, the LAV was fine, at the very least my LAV should have been affected. not complaing about it just dont understand how a grenade for AV work killed me and not the LAV.

Raist Soulforge the troll hord 12	Posted - 2013.07.13 16:57:00 - [21] - Quote has it not dawned on any of you guys what LAV actually stands for? Those blasters can likely shoot right through that Light Armor.....or your back seat, or your doors/roof/windshield for that matter (if you had them). Take a 50 CAL or something like that to an old Ford Festiva and watch the devistation. As for any kind of anti-armor/anti-vehicle weapons....what makes you think your suit/flesh is impervious to their explosive power? Really guys....think these things through a little more.
Green Living 0uter.Heaven 570	Posted - 2013.07.13 17:08:00 - [22] - Quote Stinker Butt wrote: Green Living wrote: Don't feel sorry for any scrub that uses LAV as a weapon. Get good or get blasted out of the driver seat. Nobody wants you to feels sorry for them. It's a bug that needs to be fixed and this thread is in the right section. If you don't want vehicles in the game, try the feedback section. What's even better is when my Proximity Mines pops the driver right out of his LAV. IEDS, mass causalities
Stinker Butt Not Guilty EoN. 135	Posted - 2013.07.13 19:51:00 - [23] - Quote Raist Soulforge wrote: has it not dawned on any of you guys what LAV actually stands for? Those blasters can likely shoot right through that Light Armor.....or your back seat, or your doors/roof/windshield for that matter (if you had them). Take a 50 CAL or something like that to an old Ford Festiva and watch the devistation. As for any kind of anti-armor/anti-vehicle weapons....what makes you think your suit/flesh is impervious to their explosive power? Really guys....think these things through a little more. how can you compare an lav to a ford festiva? maybe more like a hummer. it's bugged. I know because I abuse it myself. I'll keep abusing it until it's fixed.
Raist Soulforge the troll hord 12	Posted - 2013.07.13 21:13:00 - [24] - Quote Stinker Butt wrote: Raist Soulforge wrote: has it not dawned on any of you guys what LAV actually stands for? Those blasters can likely shoot right through that Light Armor.....or your back seat, or your doors/roof/windshield for that matter (if you had them). Take a 50 CAL or something like that to an old Ford Festiva and watch the devistation. As for any kind of anti-armor/anti-vehicle weapons....what makes you think your suit/flesh is impervious to their explosive power? Really guys....think these things through a little more. how can you compare an lav to a ford festiva? maybe more like a hummer. it's bugged. I know because I abuse it myself. I'll keep abusing it until it's fixed. absurd example to show the flaw in the complaint. These are, after all, light armored vedhicles, not heavies. Regardless, a common 50CAL can cut through light steel plating from a reasonable distance--up to 3/4 inch of it if I remember right. Armor peircing rounds can go through thicker plates. Even a 30-06 round can cut through light plate. The point is that if a sniper rifle can cut through a car, jeep, or a common Hummer's outer walls quite easily. One should expect a freaking turret using raounds with at least the same ballistics ratings and such could cut through and hit the driver, even more so if it's an explosive munition and the cab is opened up (no roof, w/s, or doors). [Edit:] quick googgle found a youtube where a guy was testing 30-06 armor piercing rounds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYH8ap1TDo Brief description on the video: Quote: Published on Jun 21, 2013 Testing 30-06 Armor Piercing military surplus against Steel, Concrete, Hardened AR500 Plate, and other materials. The ammo used in this video is 1942 manufacture 30 caliber M2 AP US
Stinker Butt Not Guilty EoN. 135	Posted - 2013.07.13 22:03:00 - [25] - Quote Fact is, it's bugged. It's not bugged with sniper rifles or any other type armor piercing weapon you speak of. Only blaster turrets. you can shoot the tire and it will still kill the driver.
Raist Soulforge the troll hord 12	Posted - 2013.07.14 04:21:00 - [26] - Quote Stinker Butt wrote: Fact is, it's bugged. It's not bugged with sniper rifles or any other type armor piercing weapon you speak of. Only blaster turrets. you can shoot the tire and it will still kill the driver. You are the first person to specify a scenario where they are assured the hit was to the LAV and ONLY the LAV. Even so, are you absolutely sure it was specifically just a straight armor piercing round? Ever notice how in movies and such, people shoot a tire on a jeep with a pistol and it flips over? No one ever openly questions that. Just an amusing thought that hit me. But, on the other hand, a vehicle running at high speeds that gets it's suspension suddenly shot to h3ll by a large round is likely to get you killed or severely injured when it crashes, so though you may not be seeing the full animation of such a scenario, the result could just as easily be the same in the end. Don't have the specific stats on the blasters in Dust atm, but you are talking about super-heated 20 to 80 CAL rounds, fired at high rates....they should wreak havoc on a lightly armored vehicle, and anything sitting in it (watch what those 70 year old 30 CAL bullets were doing to steel plates and such in that video for a reference). There might even be some splash damage involved here--especially if you are talking about larger rounds that may splatter/shatter on impact, or they may even be using explosive rounds. Watch what happens when you shoot at the ground or a wall--there's often something more going on there than just a straight armor peircing round. Then, there are the missle launchers as well. Everyone else has been talking about being hit by weapons that could actually pass through the LIGHT ARMOR and hit the player, or have been hit by munitions that do splash damage. Have to remember that you are at times around 60% open in those things (more if in the gunning position). Really only your legs have a decent chance of being protected when sitting in the driver seat--just on a horizontal plane, your upper body is open to roughly a 200 degree radius, your head even more open, and that's not including the vertical. One even noted their SUIT was registering damage before dying, so THEY were getting shot at more so than the LAV. I myself have managed to score headshot kills with both an SMG and an AR when a LAV was trying to run me down--and no, that isn't conjecture...I heard the gong indicating the head shot. Just saying, provided similar weapons/scenarios were in place, these kinds of things could kill you in real life--or at least gravely injure you.
Levithunder Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1	Posted - 2013.07.14 11:50:00 - [27] - Quote I've gone 28-0 with my logi lav..... And watching my friends in battle get ran over constantly is depressing (when I'm not being a troll myself) u say your logi lav is 400,000 isk what are you putting on it? Mine is 180,000 also how much money did u just run over?:) stop complaining at least in the build before uprising people had skill and didn't have OP lavs,fused and flaylocks that they could spam.
Shijima Kuraimaru WarRavens League of Infamy 259	Posted - 2013.07.14 23:07:00 - [28] - Quote The driver taking damage from hits directly to the LAV is a problem unless splash damage is involved. Getting shot out of the LAV because someone can land shots directly on your drop suit is not a problem, it's working as intended regardless of weapon.
The Final Fantasy Regime Of Shadow Marines 12	Posted - 2013.07.15 00:22:00 - [29] - Quote Levithunder wrote: I've gone 28-0 with my logi lav..... And watching my friends in battle get ran over constantly is depressing (when I'm not being a troll myself) u say your logi lav is 400,000 isk what are you putting on it? Mine is 180,000 also how much money did u just run over?:) stop complaining at least in the build before uprising people had skill and didn't have OP lavs,fused and flaylocks that they could spam. you see that the difference between you and i is, u have a cheap murder taxi fit so it cost 180k to run ppl over(great skills there buddy ), when i go logi is to help tanks actually tank and help out repair shields like the logi was ment for. u want to see what i run heres my fit with price Logi itself =84,000 Scatter ion blaster =231,880 2x local power diagnostic system = 25,120 Light clarity ward shield booster = 33,560 Surge shield reinforment = 29,360 Ward shield regenerator =12,560 Ward shield amplifier = 12,560 Shutting you up = priceless Total cost is = 429,040k That fit will make u survive anything except for that glitch with the hit box issue
Commander Tzu L.O.T.I.S. rise of legion 2	Posted - 2013.07.15 16:44:00 - [30] - Quote Raist Soulforge wrote: has it not dawned on any of you guys what LAV actually stands for? Those blasters can likely shoot right through that Light Armor.....or your back seat, or your doors/roof/windshield for that matter (if you had them). Take a 50 CAL or something like that to an old Ford Festiva and watch the devistation. As for any kind of anti-armor/anti-vehicle weapons....what makes you think your suit/flesh is impervious to their explosive power? Really guys....think these things through a little more. Cause most seem to think they should be invincible in their Light Attack Vehicles unless it actually explodes, never mind the fact all three occupants are completely exposed, even if you shoot them with railguns or blasters designed to rip into heavily armored tanks and installations.



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