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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
221
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Posted - 2013.07.08 15:13:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:
this is why we need to be unified and very loud about our concerns. let them know they may be shooting themselves in the foot by ignoring us. show them that the community who plays the game feels the issue is of great importance the squeaky wheel gets the grease after all.
Vehicle drivers are a small percentage of total users. That number is likely declining.
You don't focus dev efforts on something that only a small part of the userbase will appreciate, and that will make some part of your majority potentially mad.
Seemingly, all dev effort is focused on making the game beter for Caldari assaults and logis, everyone else can suck it. |
Principus Shmoof Triariian
Defective by Design
24
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:32:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:I really don't care what CCP does on this issue. But until then, I'm WILL steal your LAV. I do have rules with stealing LAVs though 1-If the owner asks nicely, I'll give it back 2-If the owner is a **** about it, I will get it destroyed ON PURPOSE 3-If the owner is indifferent (doesn't ask for it back), I'll try my best to keep it alive. (I own my own Logi LAV so I can drive pretty well) Just don't touch my HAV please. It's not really fair when some idiot, and I have no other term that "idiot" for HAV jackers, take a really expensive vehicle or even one I spent my own money on ($$$ not ISKISKISK). I manage my ISK really well with my vehicles, idiots stealing them and blowing them up is a huge pain to deal with, since vehicles is all I can really do
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CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
19
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:41:00 -
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wish i could getmy hand on a bpo soma..
then i ca call in free weak tanks!
beside they rnt really tanks is they die that fast....although ppl would waste alot of orbitals on them...
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
154
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:19:00 -
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Those who steal BPO vehicles are simply annoying. Those who steal expensive vehicles are cheesy knobs. I'm all for blocking idiots out of my rides. |
Akdhar Saif
Resistance of Tomorrow
5
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:56:00 -
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I'll +1 this and every other thread I see from this day forward with the same idea till it is implemented. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
274
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:58:00 -
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Principus Shmoof Triariian wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:I really don't care what CCP does on this issue. But until then, I'm WILL steal your LAV. I do have rules with stealing LAVs though 1-If the owner asks nicely, I'll give it back 2-If the owner is a **** about it, I will get it destroyed ON PURPOSE 3-If the owner is indifferent (doesn't ask for it back), I'll try my best to keep it alive. (I own my own Logi LAV so I can drive pretty well) Just don't touch my HAV please. It's not really fair when some idiot, and I have no other term that "idiot" for HAV jackers, take a really expensive vehicle or even one I spent my own money on ($$$ not ISKISKISK). I manage my ISK really well with my vehicles, idiots stealing them and blowing them up is a huge pain to deal with, since vehicles is all I can really do
No worries,
I only steal LAVs. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
274
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:00:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:Those who steal BPO vehicles are simply annoying. Those who steal expensive vehicles are cheesy knobs. I'm all for blocking idiots out of my rides.
I'm a cheesy knob?
I hope you have an expensive LAV, I'll be just 'valet parking' it |
Phosis Norg
Mad Clone Posse
6
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Posted - 2013.07.08 20:30:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:I really don't care what CCP does on this issue. But until then, I'm WILL steal your LAV. I do have rules with stealing LAVs though 1-If the owner asks nicely, I'll give it back 2-If the owner is a **** about it, I will get it destroyed ON PURPOSE 3-If the owner is indifferent (doesn't ask for it back), I'll try my best to keep it alive. (I own my own Logi LAV so I can drive pretty well)
And so, you demonstrate the old saying: "if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem". Actually in this case, YOU ARE the problem. I don't have to anymore, but originally, I paid real world money to upgrade my turrets and vehicles.
I have specific missions that I use them for. Many times as a portable turrets. I will have the site pointed for a kill shot and all of a sudden, my LAV is moving, I can't make the shot, and since I know the intentions of the person who jumped in it is 99% of the time going to use it as a murder taxi and get it destroyed, I have to jump off and just let it roll off to destruction, lest I lose my proto suit and equipment too. It's real world money being stolen by thieves, plain and simple. It's not humorous. It's not "o.k.". It's unethical and theft.
Just because it offers the words "press circle to enter vehicle" It's not saying that is what you should do, just how to do it. It's not an invite. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
75
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Posted - 2013.07.08 20:38:00 -
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Phosis Norg wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:I really don't care what CCP does on this issue. But until then, I'm WILL steal your LAV. I do have rules with stealing LAVs though 1-If the owner asks nicely, I'll give it back 2-If the owner is a **** about it, I will get it destroyed ON PURPOSE 3-If the owner is indifferent (doesn't ask for it back), I'll try my best to keep it alive. (I own my own Logi LAV so I can drive pretty well) And so, you demonstrate the old saying: "if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem". Actually in this case, YOU ARE the problem. I don't have to anymore, but originally, I paid real world money to upgrade my turrets and vehicles. I have specific missions that I use them for. Many times as a portable turrets. I will have the site pointed for a kill shot and all of a sudden, my LAV is moving, I can't make the shot, and since I know the intentions of the person who jumped in it is 99% of the time going to use it as a murder taxi and get it destroyed, I have to jump off and just let it roll off to destruction, lest I lose my proto suit and equipment too. It's real world money being stolen by thieves, plain and simple. It's not humorous. It's not "o.k.". It's unethical and theft. Just because it offers the words "press circle to enter vehicle" It's not saying that is what you should do, just how to do it. It's not an invite.
until CCP gives us our keys one way I have found to deal with vehicle thieves is to harass them for the rest of the match and if I feel really strongly matches I find myself teamed up with them in the future.... such as constantly running into them with my LAV letting the enemy kill them and... if they get in my vehicle.... driving them to their death either by red line or impact and being that most of the time im running full bp gear and a bp vehicle I find solace in the idea that they are losing isk every time I do this. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
155
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Posted - 2013.07.08 21:07:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:Those who steal BPO vehicles are simply annoying. Those who steal expensive vehicles are cheesy knobs. I'm all for blocking idiots out of my rides. I'm a cheesy knob? I hope you have an expensive LAV, I'll be just 'valet parking' it
You might just be .
I call mine out away from blue dots. :) |
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Rust Rage
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:01:00 -
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[quote=Provolonee]A few ideas that have been mentioned since I started playing in Jan. -only driver can drive. -only squad can drive -owner can lock/unlock -must have skills to pilot Skills to pilot sounds feasible. Locking vehicle seems to contradict the ability to walk up and hack enemy vehicles in a matter of seconds, but if I cannot buy or fit a vehicle, why should I be able to pilot one? |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
17
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Posted - 2013.07.09 02:16:00 -
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This is the best idea ever. As a tank driver, I never call in my Sica (yes, Sica) unless I have a couple of squadmates to get in it after I do, that way, I can't lose it. The worst is when I'm squad leader, (which I'm not, if I'm tanking, usually) and I need to call down an orbital. Or if I have to go AFK. Either way, I just drive somewhere (relatively) safe and do what I need to do. If I see a blueberry, though, I don't want you in my tank. Please, get out, or make yourself useful. One of the two. Also, I do not get out, even if 'm surrounded, I run and try to get my stuff back up. I'm telling you, if I see a tank on an objective, I'm staying away. Most others are the same way. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
102
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Posted - 2013.07.10 09:35:00 -
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this post will not get lost in the 600 + pages of feedback I tell you!
make your voice heard!
post and plus one if you agree!!! |
Knochenbeisser
Wraith Shadow Guards
5
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:46:00 -
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Provolonee wrote:A few ideas that have been mentioned since I started playing in Jan. -only driver can drive. -only squad can drive -owner can lock/unlock -must have skills to pilot -remote explosive in driver seat with friendly fire -eject all passengers Button
Its been brought up alot, and I'm sure we will see the thread again.
+1
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staaliy beta
The Tickle Monsters
2
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Posted - 2013.07.10 14:30:00 -
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Good idea but I think the ability for an awoxer to come and ruin your day should still be available. Either only timed locking, or no locking available in PC but only your squad can drive in public matches. Theft and sneaky **** is a big thing in the eve-dust universe and i don't thing that should be taken away.
Or just accept that in a public match you shouldn't bring out the big guns you're not prepared to loose (Don't get me wrong, i like the idea in general but that's what CCP's opinion probably is) |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
335
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Posted - 2013.07.10 16:59:00 -
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Phosis Norg wrote:Skipper Jones wrote:I really don't care what CCP does on this issue. But until then, I'm WILL steal your LAV. I do have rules with stealing LAVs though 1-If the owner asks nicely, I'll give it back 2-If the owner is a **** about it, I will get it destroyed ON PURPOSE 3-If the owner is indifferent (doesn't ask for it back), I'll try my best to keep it alive. (I own my own Logi LAV so I can drive pretty well) And so, you demonstrate the old saying: "if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem". Actually in this case, YOU ARE the problem. I don't have to anymore, but originally, I paid real world money to upgrade my turrets and vehicles. I have specific missions that I use them for. Many times as a portable turrets. I will have the site pointed for a kill shot and all of a sudden, my LAV is moving, I can't make the shot, and since I know the intentions of the person who jumped in it is 99% of the time going to use it as a murder taxi and get it destroyed, I have to jump off and just let it roll off to destruction, lest I lose my proto suit and equipment too. It's real world money being stolen by thieves, plain and simple. It's not humorous. It's not "o.k.". It's unethical and theft. Just because it offers the words "press circle to enter vehicle" It's not saying that is what you should do, just how to do it. It's not an invite.
I use it as a murder taxi, and RARELY get it killed ( Unless you be a **** about it).
If you want to twist my words again you could say I'm teaching the driver. Teaching them to be more careful, and be more cautious about who is in your vehicle.
I only steal LAVs. HAVs are a no-no.
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Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
335
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:02:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:
until CCP gives us our keys one way I have found to deal with vehicle thieves is to harass them for the rest of the match and if I feel really strongly matches I find myself teamed up with them in the future.... such as constantly running into them with my LAV letting the enemy kill them and... if they get in my vehicle.... driving them to their death either by red line or impact and being that most of the time im running full bp gear and a bp vehicle I find solace in the idea that they are losing isk every time I do this.
Kill me in the car, you lose your car and your suit.
I don't care about losing one suit to see the reaction of a driver. |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
335
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:04:00 -
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THE GREY CARDINAL wrote:
I call mine out away from blue dots. :)
Smart man.
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:27:00 -
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staaliy beta wrote:Good idea but I think the ability for an awoxer to come and ruin your day should still be available. Either only timed locking, or no locking available in PC but only your squad can drive in public matches. Theft and sneaky **** is a big thing in the eve-dust universe and i don't thing that should be taken away.
Or just accept that in a public match you shouldn't bring out the big guns you're not prepared to loose (Don't get me wrong, i like the idea in general but that's what CCP's opinion probably is)
yeahtheaft and sneaky shlt is a big thin g in eve but even in eve u still need the skill to fly what u steal so at the bare minimum u shod have to at least have the skill to drive/pilot the vehicle away to an area of your choosing, but i think that the driver seat needs a lock option so only the person who called it in ca drive it if he wants to lock it |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
187
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:43:00 -
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hate this idea. if you're playing solo and pulling out a tank you're a ****-tard. |
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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
110
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:43:00 -
[51] - Quote
staaliy beta wrote:Good idea but I think the ability for an awoxer to come and ruin your day should still be available. Either only timed locking, or no locking available in PC but only your squad can drive in public matches. Theft and sneaky **** is a big thing in the eve-dust universe and i don't thing that should be taken away.
Or just accept that in a public match you shouldn't bring out the big guns you're not prepared to loose (Don't get me wrong, i like the idea in general but that's what CCP's opinion probably is)
I agree on the sneaky point... but sneakiness should have counter measures... for instance, giving us the power to lock our vehicles doesn't mean we will always remember to do it... |
Skipper Jones
ZionTCD
336
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:45:00 -
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low genius wrote:hate this idea. if you're playing solo and pulling out a tank you're a ****-tard.
What if you don't have a corp to run with. Maybe no one is online What if you don't have a mic to tell people that you are calling in a tank
It won't hurt anything.
You don't have to be an ******* |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
110
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:45:00 -
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Skipper Jones wrote:Seymor Krelborn wrote:
until CCP gives us our keys one way I have found to deal with vehicle thieves is to harass them for the rest of the match and if I feel really strongly matches I find myself teamed up with them in the future.... such as constantly running into them with my LAV letting the enemy kill them and... if they get in my vehicle.... driving them to their death either by red line or impact and being that most of the time im running full bp gear and a bp vehicle I find solace in the idea that they are losing isk every time I do this.
Kill me in the car, you lose your car and your suit. I don't care about losing one suit to see the reaction of a driver.
the LAV is free to in this scenario and so is my suit... reread the post |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2013.07.10 17:48:00 -
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exactly
i also think that if we are able to steal an enemy vehicle we should be able to recall it after all u did steal if form a bad guy and not ur own team in a situation like that. just this week alone i stole 4 logi lavs from enemy smashdrivers i wish i coulda kept them |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
124
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Posted - 2013.07.10 19:08:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:I'm sick and tired of stupid blueberries stealing my LAV! thankfully my SAGA is free (if you don't count the real 100$ I spent on the elite pack) but I think im starting to understand why there are so many useless tank pilots who wont leave the tank to help cap a point or some other task that requires them on foot... im guessing its because they don't want someone stealing their tank and getting it blown up.
seriously I cant tell you how many times I leave my vehicle for 2 seconds to do something useful for my team only to have some idiot come along and steal it, more than most the time getting it blown up.
so I ask of you CCP on behalf of all us vehicle operators give us some way to "lock our vehicles without having to recall them.
please +1 this if you feel the same
thanks. yet another vehicle lock thread and this time it isnt me i stopped asking for this because i get banned. but i still love 2-6 mill a day to lavs being stolen. im proto logi av and i try to use my lav to get me between defending my team against vehicles and healing them. i lose more isk to this than i do to anything else |
Crow Splat
DUST University Ivy League
43
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Posted - 2013.07.11 01:33:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:exactly
i also think that if we are able to steal an enemy vehicle we should be able to recall it after all u did steal if form a bad guy and not ur own team in a situation like that. just this week alone i stole 4 logi lavs from enemy smashdrivers i wish i coulda kept them
This.
when I kill a red and take his vehicle, I want to actually take it. As in it gets added to my assets when I recall it. It's one of those little things that would go a long way to adding more depth to the game.
As for locks, I think we should have a series of permissions that we can toggle for each fit. There should be different layers like self only, squad, team, corp, alliance, and open. You would turn on one or more of these options and only people that fall into those categories to get in your vehicle, with open being that anyone can get in. Also when/if faction standings get put in let us set a certain standing with a specific faction as a limiter. So I could set it to where only people with a standing of 3.0 or higher with the Angel Cartel can get in my dropship, or you need -5.0 or lower with Amarr to get in my tank. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
123
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Posted - 2013.07.11 02:10:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:exactly
i also think that if we are able to steal an enemy vehicle we should be able to recall it after all u did steal if form a bad guy and not ur own team in a situation like that. just this week alone i stole 4 logi lavs from enemy smashdrivers i wish i coulda kept them This. when I kill a red and take his vehicle, I want to actually take it. As in it gets added to my assets when I recall it. It's one of those little things that would go a long way to adding more depth to the game. As for locks, I think we should have a series of permissions that we can toggle for each fit. There should be different layers like self only, squad, team, corp, alliance, and open. You would turn on one or more of these options and only people that fall into those categories to get in your vehicle, with open being that anyone can get in. Also when/if faction standings get put in let us set a certain standing with a specific faction as a limiter. So I could set it to where only people with a standing of 3.0 or higher with the Angel Cartel can get in my dropship, or you need -5.0 or lower with Amarr to get in my tank.
I too am all for the idea of keeping a hacked vehicle... but that's another thread
as far as locks go I think you have some good ideas....lets hope CCP does something soon |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
205
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:57:00 -
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bumping this thread again...CCP blam do something useful give us locks hear our voice answer our call!
+1 this thread if you agree people tell your tales here of vehicle thievery and why you believe locks are needed
thanks! |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
208
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Posted - 2013.07.16 18:40:00 -
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bump bump bump |
BRINGER OF WRATH
The Vanguardians
0
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Posted - 2013.07.16 19:17:00 -
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Bump |
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