DUST Search - railgun instilations have longer LOS & effective range than railtanks

bethany valvetino wrote:

Exmaple Core wrote:

bethany valvetino wrote:

Exmaple Core wrote:

The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map

If i'm honest

any tanker that doesn't know the location of all the turrets on a map, they status (alive or dead) and how to hide from them...

needs to find something else to do.

you are asking someone to be omnicient of everything going on at once and expecting someone to know the status of invisible turrents. do you know if that invisible turrent is alive or destroyed?

I'm "expecting" that a tanker should know what maps he is fighting on and the location of hostile rail turrets... yes.

and having just read a guy whining that is stops him for red line sniping.. I'll say it again.

Why should the game be changed to suit someone who can't be arsed to look at one of the many maps on the internet that details such things? That can't be arsed to run a LAV about to check status of turrets... that isn't able to have a back up plan "oh bugger, I'm being pinned here, best recall my HAV and do something else/respawn it somewhere else"

It's the same moaning post i have seen a million times on these and the Eve forums...

There is a basic and cover all translation for this... "moan moan moan... something I like doing isn't easy, CCP change the whole game to suit me, as I'm too lazy or stooopid to work out how to over come this problem"


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Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 182	Posted - 2013.07.05 10:54:00 - [1] - Quote I had a railgun installation in the enemy ground spawn hit my HAV every single time I popped out of cover from my ground spawn. The range was under 600m but the installation was invisible and never did I manage to find it by shooting at likely locations.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 182	Posted - 2013.07.05 10:58:00 - [2] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: Harpyja wrote: I had a railgun installation in the enemy ground spawn hit my HAV every single time I popped out of cover from my ground spawn. The range was under 600m but the installation was invisible and never did I manage to find it by shooting at likely locations. This! from across the map right? Exactly. It was on one of the new maps, where alpha is located on a bridge in skirmish and I was on the southwest corner where the ground spawn is in the hills and directly north was a direct LOS to the enemy ground spawn also up in the hills Edit: the annoying part was that I could see and hit the enemy CRU at the spawn but not any of the installations
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 185	Posted - 2013.07.05 17:01:00 - [3] - Quote bethany valvetino wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: bethany valvetino wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: The instilations have an unlimmited LOS and bullet reach. This allows any person who likes to get on any of these and pin down and very, very easily destroy any tank on the entire map from that instilations point of view. Tanks, on the other hand, have a limited range and line of sight. Tanks travel on the map going about their day and they are suddenly struck by a mighty blow that they can not see, as they lack unlimmited LOS. The shots are endless and unrelenting, chasing the tank untill he is ethire destroyed or hidding behind something that breaks the LOS, were he will ethire sit for ever or recall the tank. He cant do anything else because he cant see what is killing him from litterally the other side of the map. So the tanker recalls his tank and geusses were the railgun is and trys to kill it. The process begins again untill he lost too many tanks or is secessful. Btw, this is happeneing durring a battle, other ppl have AV too! BtwBtw, this is most imfamously abused on the bridge map If i'm honest any tanker that doesn't know the location of all the turrets on a map, they status (alive or dead) and how to hide from them... needs to find something else to do. you are asking someone to be omnicient of everything going on at once and expecting someone to know the status of invisible turrents. do you know if that invisible turrent is alive or destroyed? I'm "expecting" that a tanker should know what maps he is fighting on and the location of hostile rail turrets... yes. and having just read a guy whining that is stops him for red line sniping.. I'll say it again. Why should the game be changed to suit someone who can't be arsed to look at one of the many maps on the internet that details such things? That can't be arsed to run a LAV about to check status of turrets... that isn't able to have a back up plan "oh bugger, I'm being pinned here, best recall my HAV and do something else/respawn it somewhere else" It's the same moaning post i have seen a million times on these and the Eve forums... There is a basic and cover all translation for this... "moan moan moan... something I like doing isn't easy, CCP change the whole game to suit me, as I'm too lazy or stooopid to work out how to over come this problem" The most BS post I've ever seen. A competent tanker knows the general location of every installation, but you asking for every tanker to know the exact location down to the meter is total BS. As for you personally, I am not a redline sniper. I bring my railgun to medium ranges and serves me very well. Only when there's an enemy railgun tank do I find high ground, and any tanker that calls himself competent will always try to get the tactical advantage over another tank, even if that advantage comes from the redline. I had just called in my tank, started rolling out of the deployment zone and started getting railgunned, after which I found cover and the scenario you read about ensued. I eventually gave up and booked it for the middle where I eventually got a visual on the installation and destroyed it. The same goes for ladwar. I doubt that even you have every single installation's location memorized down to the meter. Try shooting at invisible turrets across the map while they are shooting back and hitting you.