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Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
1792
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Posted - 2013.07.04 19:08:00 -
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Id like to thank my brothern in the Federation, as well as any of our Matari allies that risked their lives in the assault on Caldari Prime.
Though our ground assault was unsuccessful, the remains of the Leviathan that lay wasted in the badlands is a monument to our victory. Though the Caldari were not wrong in defending their homeland, refusal to answer to diplomacy has always led to unnecessary violence.
But was the violence so unnecessary? Billions if not trillions of ISK lost and countless lives from both nations all because we are bred from the same ilk but have such different ideals. War has always been considered a downfall in our race, but I view it as something more, because with Death comes new beginnings, just as the icy grip of winter brings spring on Intaki Prime.
So, a toast! A toast to inevitable and unavoidable war..! May it bring peace in our future as it always has before. |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2013.07.04 20:21:00 -
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Eh it was worth it. |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak4
Expert Intervention Caldari State
73
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Posted - 2013.07.04 21:38:00 -
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You Gallenteen scumbgas, I can't wait to melt your faces over and over again. |
Mac Dac
Wraith Shadow Guards
93
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:15:00 -
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as a proud supporter of the caldari i have just one question.
werent we winning the battle when we chrashed the leviathan to our home. |
steadyhand amarr
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
755
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:24:00 -
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tell you want was pretty to watch that thing crash into the planet, though im worried by concord agents running around though im told they where off the clock so to speak. |
Terry Webber
Turalyon Plus
128
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:26:00 -
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Hear, hear, Aeon! |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1897
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Posted - 2013.07.04 22:33:00 -
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I was there, doing hit and run attacks with a sniper rifle against the caldari. A friend of mine was helping to destroy the titan in orbit.
And what violence are you talking about? I don't remember seeing a civilian- we only fought over military structures. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
372
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Posted - 2013.07.04 23:15:00 -
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The Gallenteans fought hard planetside. The Shigeru going down was a blow to the State yes but the heroics of its commander not activating the doomday device on the ship saved billions of lives.
A toast to her as well should be in order, her sacrifice lent to the Caldari winning the ground war.
EDIT- Bearing in mind it was the Gallenteans who broke the peace over the planet by engaging the shigeru, and brought war to Caldari Prime, also bearing in mind this was our ancestoral home and that the Gallente have no right to it. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
1796
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Posted - 2013.07.05 01:48:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:The Gallenteans fought hard planetside. The Shigeru going down was a blow to the State yes but the heroics of its commander not activating the doomday device on the ship saved billions of lives.
A toast to her as well should be in order, her sacrifice lent to the Caldari winning the ground war.
EDIT- Bearing in mind it was the Gallenteans who broke the peace over the planet by engaging the shigeru, and brought war to Caldari Prime, also bearing in mind this was our ancestoral home and that the Gallente have no right to it.
Ah yes... The "ancestral home" argument.. Interesting the double standard the Caldari have when referring to this clause when they showed no remorse in selling Intaki Prime to the highest bidder - then had the nerve to call Ishukone traitors for supporting we Intaki!
And again when Ishukone did peace keeping and charity operations on Caldari Prime..
So, what respect are we Intaki owed to our ancestral home? Or did you overlook that in defense of your own meritocratic ideals...? |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
372
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:08:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:The Gallenteans fought hard planetside. The Shigeru going down was a blow to the State yes but the heroics of its commander not activating the doomday device on the ship saved billions of lives.
A toast to her as well should be in order, her sacrifice lent to the Caldari winning the ground war.
EDIT- Bearing in mind it was the Gallenteans who broke the peace over the planet by engaging the shigeru, and brought war to Caldari Prime, also bearing in mind this was our ancestoral home and that the Gallente have no right to it. Ah yes... The "ancestral home" argument.. Interesting the double standard the Caldari have when referring to this clause when they showed no remorse in selling Intaki Prime to the highest bidder - then had the nerve to call Ishukone traitors for supporting we Intaki! And again when Ishukone did peace keeping and charity operations on Caldari Prime.. So, what respect are we Intaki owed to our ancestral home? Or did you overlook that in defense of your own meritocratic ideals...? As a Patriot amongst the Caldari Loyalist blocs I look unfavourably on Ishukones dealings with the Gallenteans, them essentially negotiating the surrender of Caldari troops on Caldari prime when we were prepared to fight to the bitter end. |
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Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
32
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:10:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:The Gallenteans fought hard planetside. The Shigeru going down was a blow to the State yes but the heroics of its commander not activating the doomday device on the ship saved billions of lives.
A toast to her as well should be in order, her sacrifice lent to the Caldari winning the ground war.
EDIT- Bearing in mind it was the Gallenteans who broke the peace over the planet by engaging the shigeru, and brought war to Caldari Prime, also bearing in mind this was our ancestoral home and that the Gallente have no right to it. Ah yes... The "ancestral home" argument.. Interesting the double standard the Caldari have when referring to this clause when they showed no remorse in selling Intaki Prime to the highest bidder - then had the nerve to call Ishukone traitors for supporting we Intaki! And again when Ishukone did peace keeping and charity operations on Caldari Prime.. So, what respect are we Intaki owed to our ancestral home? Or did you overlook that in defense of your own meritocratic ideals...? As a Patriot amongst the Caldari Loyalist blocs I look unfavourably on Ishukones dealings with the Gallenteans, them essentially negotiating the surrender of Caldari troops on Caldari prime when we were prepared to fight to the bitter end.
A similar double standard exists within the Federation with early Federation authorities exiling many Intaki who sympathised with the Caldari desire to secede from the Federation but I guess such history has been forgotten by your people.
I must stipulate that the event on Intaki Prime have relatively little bearing on the New Caldari State, after Heths subsequent departure from the State and being stripped of his role as Executor the State is in a transitional phase. You must bear in mind we have been at war with your people for a very long time. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax. CRONOS.
417
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:13:00 -
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Heth has been a poison to the caldari people, Ishukone is the only ones willing to take a stand for the good of New Eden. Heth was ready to sacrifice Caldari Prime just so he didn't have to admit he was wrong. He has actively Hunted us, I maybe caldari by Birth But I'm an Empryean, and I stand with The Watch. |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
32
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:18:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:Heth has been a poison to the caldari people, Ishukone is the only ones willing to take a stand for the good of New Eden. Heth was ready to sacrifice Caldari Prime just so he didn't have to admit he was wrong. He has actively Hunted us, I maybe caldari by Birth But I'm an Empryean, and I stand with The Watch.
So do I. Strength to the Watch. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
1796
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:31:00 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:The Gallenteans fought hard planetside. The Shigeru going down was a blow to the State yes but the heroics of its commander not activating the doomday device on the ship saved billions of lives.
A toast to her as well should be in order, her sacrifice lent to the Caldari winning the ground war.
EDIT- Bearing in mind it was the Gallenteans who broke the peace over the planet by engaging the shigeru, and brought war to Caldari Prime, also bearing in mind this was our ancestoral home and that the Gallente have no right to it. Ah yes... The "ancestral home" argument.. Interesting the double standard the Caldari have when referring to this clause when they showed no remorse in selling Intaki Prime to the highest bidder - then had the nerve to call Ishukone traitors for supporting we Intaki! And again when Ishukone did peace keeping and charity operations on Caldari Prime.. So, what respect are we Intaki owed to our ancestral home? Or did you overlook that in defense of your own meritocratic ideals...? As a Patriot amongst the Caldari Loyalist blocs I look unfavourably on Ishukones dealings with the Gallenteans, them essentially negotiating the surrender of Caldari troops on Caldari prime when we were prepared to fight to the bitter end. A similar double standard exists within the Federation with early Federation authorities exiling many Intaki who sympathised with the Caldari desire to secede from the Federation but I guess such history has been forgotten by your people. I must stipulate that the event on Intaki Prime have relatively little bearing on the New Caldari State, after Heths subsequent departure from the State and being stripped of his role as Executor the State is in a transitional phase. You must bear in mind we have been at war with your people for a very long time.
Bear in mind Intaki are a diverse people, and the Intaki Syndicate rules like barons with a fiefdom. There are also Intaki who retain loyalty to the Gallente, and there are even Intaki who believe that they should separate from the Federation. They are known as the Intaki Liberation Front.
And then there are those of us who know that the "Patriots" of the Caldari are blind to the efforts of Ishukone, and we're quite vigilant in the defense of Caldari expansion. Your ways are not our ways, and you forget that despite Caldari Prime being your home it was a demilitarized zone...and that you fired on CONCORD before ever a Gallentean shot was fired in that sams demilitarized zone..
Intaki Prime is still yet in a combat zone, and you have no qualms with fighting over its sovereignty. That, I feel, is hypocritical to this "who fired first" historical grievance. My people live under constant, daily threat - can you say the same for yours? Because the last time I checked... The Caldari did not fight for the freedom of Intaki Prime - only her unconditional surrender. |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
32
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Posted - 2013.07.05 02:49:00 -
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As are they Intaki who retain loyalty to the Caldari.
This war is bigger than the Intaki, neither the Federation nor the State have such issues with engaging in such system, why do you still hold the Caldari responsible for all such conflicts.
Mordu's Legion and the Intaki Liberation front are allied with us as they see the clandestine overbearing nature of the Federation.
While I respect Ishukone's work to soothe the frayed interactions between the State and Federation you must understand that the Caldari Patriots are not some dictatorship of war minded individuals, this is indicative of the positive relations between Hyasyoda and ishukone.
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Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax. CRONOS.
417
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:02:00 -
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If it were not for the actions of The Watch, The Legion and the Galentee working together, you would not be the being you are now. The petty politics of mortals only concern us so much that we are employed to fight their wars. |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
32
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:10:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:If it were not for the actions of The Watch, The Legion and the Galentee working together, you would not be the being you are now. The petty politics of mortals only concern us so much that we are employed to fight their wars.
Mordu's Legion is Caldari Aligned. |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax. CRONOS.
417
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Posted - 2013.07.05 03:13:00 -
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The Legion acts in the best interest of the People, not of the State |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
32
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:04:00 -
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Heinz Doofenshertz wrote:The Legion acts in the best interest of the People, not of the State
Yet they take handout from the Caldari Navy as well as have a leadership comprised of State sympathisers |
Heinz Doofenshertz
BetaMax. CRONOS.
417
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Posted - 2013.07.05 04:47:00 -
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They also work for the Minmatar and the Galentee, they are a mercenary outfit. |
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Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F
194
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Posted - 2013.07.05 06:42:00 -
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I've already argued way too many times as to how toasting for the battle of Caldari Prime is pointless on either side. It's a tragedy, billions of civilians were killed in the fighting and the crash of the Shiigeru, not something you celebrate. Both sides are equally at fault here, pointing fingers at each other isn't going to help at all. |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
34
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Posted - 2013.07.05 07:03:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:I've already argued way too many times as to how toasting for the battle of Caldari Prime is pointless on either side. It's a tragedy, billions of civilians were killed in the fighting and the crash of the Shiigeru, not something you celebrate. Both sides are equally at fault here, pointing fingers at each other isn't going to help at all.
What we should be toasting to is the actions of the Shigeru's commander, who when ordered to detonate the ships doomsday weaponry, disobeyed orders thus saving the lives of billions more. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
1797
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Posted - 2013.07.05 09:19:00 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I've already argued way too many times as to how toasting for the battle of Caldari Prime is pointless on either side. It's a tragedy, billions of civilians were killed in the fighting and the crash of the Shiigeru, not something you celebrate. Both sides are equally at fault here, pointing fingers at each other isn't going to help at all. What we should be toasting to is the actions of the Shigeru's commander, who when ordered to detonate the ships doomsday weaponry, disobeyed orders thus saving the lives of billions more.
Yes... Let us also toast the insubordinate actions and complete disregard for intergalactic law that was the attack on a CONCORD agent overseeing the ground combat in a peaceful manner...
Mordu's Legion, while taking Caldari contracts, are not allied with the State. Nor are the Intaki Liberation Front - a successionist movement who's only concern is the wellbeing of Intaki. They are, infact, in strong ties with the Ishukraata and Ishukone, a corporation the so called Patriots would rather have barred from the State.
Interesting that you would rather follow a crazed leader who has forgotten the Meritocratic ideals of old than the Federation and its "overbearing" nature. Both have flaws, but I for one choose not to follow blindly like a sheep. Under Federatikn control, I taki Prime is simply left for its self - where as the Caldari would utilize its resources, few as they are, for itself.
So, who's more in the wrong when no-one will fight for her? Regardless, it has nothing to do with Caldari Prime, which I toast somply because its profitable and I know all of you fight for your self-interested egos... You simply try to mask it in some silly ideal that you still have some humanity, that its a pity civilians had to die. Quit lying to yourselves - its all about the ISK. |
Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster
68
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Posted - 2013.07.05 09:29:00 -
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I will raise my glass in honor of Shigerus commander and to all those who perished in this meaningless yet lucrative war. I hope it wont be the last since I had a blast. |
Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
339
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Posted - 2013.07.05 10:29:00 -
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that's what I hate about you Caldari, your just interested in profit, nothing for the people or by the people, all controlled by the highest bidder and largest wallet. the battle for Caldari Prime was an event I will never forget, as I saw your leviathan in flames and wreckage I couldn't help but think to myself "this is it, this is the might of the Gallente, this is what we are capable of, bringing down traitors to freedom and justice, also.... HOLY **** THATS A BIG SHIP, IV NEVER SEEN A TITAN THIS CLOSE BEFORE".
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Void Echo
Internal Error. League of Infamy
339
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Posted - 2013.07.05 10:30:00 -
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Denak Kalamari wrote:I've already argued way too many times as to how toasting for the battle of Caldari Prime is pointless on either side. It's a tragedy, billions of civilians were killed in the fighting and the crash of the Shiigeru, not something you celebrate. Both sides are equally at fault here, pointing fingers at each other isn't going to help at all.
the amazing part is being apart of the history making as a result of what takes place. |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:23:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I've already argued way too many times as to how toasting for the battle of Caldari Prime is pointless on either side. It's a tragedy, billions of civilians were killed in the fighting and the crash of the Shiigeru, not something you celebrate. Both sides are equally at fault here, pointing fingers at each other isn't going to help at all. What we should be toasting to is the actions of the Shigeru's commander, who when ordered to detonate the ships doomsday weaponry, disobeyed orders thus saving the lives of billions more. Yes... Let us also toast the insubordinate actions and complete disregard for intergalactic law that was the attack on a CONCORD agent overseeing the ground combat in a peaceful manner... Mordu's Legion, while taking Caldari contracts, are not allied with the State. Nor are the Intaki Liberation Front - a successionist movement who's only concern is the wellbeing of Intaki. They are, infact, in strong ties with the Ishukraata and Ishukone, a corporation the so called Patriots would rather have barred from the State. Interesting that you would rather follow a crazed leader who has forgotten the Meritocratic ideals of old than the Federation and its "overbearing" nature. Both have flaws, but I for one choose not to follow blindly like a sheep. Under Federatikn control, I taki Prime is simply left for its self - where as the Caldari would utilize its resources, few as they are, for itself. So, who's more in the wrong when no-one will fight for her? Regardless, it has nothing to do with Caldari Prime, which I toast somply because its profitable and I know all of you fight for your self-interested egos... You simply try to mask it in some silly ideal that you still have some humanity, that its a pity civilians had to die. Quit lying to yourselves - its all about the ISK.
As an employee of the Ishukone corporation I can say with absolute certainty I do not support, or did not support Heth's actions in recent weeks...
However I will maintain that the actions of one single individual when it counted prevented an even greater disaster and that is worth of merit and praise.
I notice how all Gallenteans are quick to pass themselves off as heroes, a misguided notion compounded by the fact that you refuse to come to understand the beliefs and dealings of the other empires. |
Kador Ouryon
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:24:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:that's what I hate about you Caldari, your just interested in profit, nothing for the people or by the people, all controlled by the highest bidder and largest wallet. the battle for Caldari Prime was an event I will never forget, as I saw your leviathan in flames and wreckage I couldn't help but think to myself "this is it, this is the might of the Gallente, this is what we are capable of, bringing down traitors to freedom and justice, also.... HOLY **** THATS A BIG SHIP, IV NEVER SEEN A TITAN THIS CLOSE BEFORE".
Again a Gallentean not willing to attempt to understand the other empires, yes continue looking through that clouded glass you live behind. |
Aeon Amadi
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
1809
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:25:00 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Kador Ouryon wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:I've already argued way too many times as to how toasting for the battle of Caldari Prime is pointless on either side. It's a tragedy, billions of civilians were killed in the fighting and the crash of the Shiigeru, not something you celebrate. Both sides are equally at fault here, pointing fingers at each other isn't going to help at all. What we should be toasting to is the actions of the Shigeru's commander, who when ordered to detonate the ships doomsday weaponry, disobeyed orders thus saving the lives of billions more. Yes... Let us also toast the insubordinate actions and complete disregard for intergalactic law that was the attack on a CONCORD agent overseeing the ground combat in a peaceful manner... Mordu's Legion, while taking Caldari contracts, are not allied with the State. Nor are the Intaki Liberation Front - a successionist movement who's only concern is the wellbeing of Intaki. They are, infact, in strong ties with the Ishukraata and Ishukone, a corporation the so called Patriots would rather have barred from the State. Interesting that you would rather follow a crazed leader who has forgotten the Meritocratic ideals of old than the Federation and its "overbearing" nature. Both have flaws, but I for one choose not to follow blindly like a sheep. Under Federatikn control, I taki Prime is simply left for its self - where as the Caldari would utilize its resources, few as they are, for itself. So, who's more in the wrong when no-one will fight for her? Regardless, it has nothing to do with Caldari Prime, which I toast somply because its profitable and I know all of you fight for your self-interested egos... You simply try to mask it in some silly ideal that you still have some humanity, that its a pity civilians had to die. Quit lying to yourselves - its all about the ISK. As an employee of the Ishukone corporation I can say with absolute certainty I do not support, or did not support Heth's actions in recent weeks... However I will maintain that the actions of one single individual when it counted prevented an even greater disaster and that is worth of merit and praise. I notice how all Gallenteans are quick to pass themselves off as heroes, a misguided notion compounded by the fact that you refuse to come to understand the beliefs and dealings of the other empires.
Give what Ive been dealt. I dont side with Gallente, I side with the ISK - and that battle had plenty of bodies to strip of their weapons.
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Kador Ouryon
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Posted - 2013.07.05 22:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:
Give what Ive been dealt. I dont side with Gallente, I side with the ISK - and that battle had plenty of bodies to strip of their weapons.
While Im sure many mercenaries fight for ISK there are some who fight for a cause. I fight for my cause, ISK is just a by product of that cause that is of little concern to me, it buys me that power I need to stand in the field shoulder to shoulder with the Watch and keep my people safe from harm. |
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