DUST Search - Lord Falek Grange's Minmatar Disposal Service

Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:

Harkon Vysarii wrote:

Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:

You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light?

It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense?

Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become.

Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr.

Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves.

Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists.

Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario.

He's modified his post since my remark, Mr. Vysarii, modifying "slave" to "terrorist." Note the time of his last edit.

I'm perfectly willing (and relieved) to believe that the original was a typo.

Edit:

Ah-- and his last post, "FTFY"-- "fixed that for you," I believe. He didn't modify his quote from me that I can tell; if I'm not mistaken, he modified his own.

Well, that's a relief. Standard-issue aggression is a major improvement over ... well ...

... starting to come across like capsuleers?

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Lord Falek Grange Bragian Order Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2013.07.04 18:30:00 - [1] - Quote Lord Falek Grange's Minmatar Disposal Service "Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good. Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land. The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood. But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God. Thus they were saved and became God's chosen." - The Scriptures, Book II 2:1 In light of the recent influx of immortal Minmatar dregs scumming up the galaxy, I am happy to announce a mutually beneficial service to cure New Eden of this creeping plague: For the low cost of one million (1,000,000) ISK, I will capture and behead a Minmatar slave! As an added bonus, I will include an Amarr-loyalist mercenary from Hellstorm Inc. corp-battle team to fight two (2) of your Amarr FW battles. Minmatar are filthy, and so prices are negotiable. Inquiries must be made in this thread. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 303	Posted - 2013.07.04 23:39:00 - [2] - Quote God be with you then Lord Falek And always remember "The word of the Lord is pure, It is a shield for the faithful, Brought unto men by the Angels, As a guiding light in the darkness "
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 0	Posted - 2013.07.05 16:23:00 - [3] - Quote You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light? It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense? Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become.
Lord Falek Grange Bragian Order Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2013.07.05 18:53:00 - [4] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light? It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense? Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. FTFY
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 147	Posted - 2013.07.05 18:55:00 - [5] - Quote "I give to you the destiny of Faith, And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13 My brother, do not let mere ISK be your driving force to act in His will, but rather your faith alone. On a similar note, not all who stray from the flock are lost. I have seen those lost in darkness return to the light. For while we are retribution incarnate, His Angels of vengeance, we are also the shepherds in the darkness, His Angels of mercy.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 372	Posted - 2013.07.05 22:16:00 - [6] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light? It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense? Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 0	Posted - 2013.07.05 23:50:00 - [7] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light? It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense? Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario. He's modified his post since my remark, Mr. Vysarii, modifying "slave" to "terrorist." Note the time of his last edit. I'm perfectly willing (and relieved) to believe that the original was a typo.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 308	Posted - 2013.07.06 01:03:00 - [8] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: Harkon Vysarii wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light? It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense? Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario. He's modified his post since my remark, Mr. Vysarii, modifying "slave" to "terrorist." Note the time of his last edit. I'm perfectly willing (and relieved) to believe that the original was a typo. Edit: Ah-- and his last post, "FTFY"-- "fixed that for you," I believe. He didn't modify his quote from me that I can tell; if I'm not mistaken, he modified his own. Well, that's a relief. Standard-issue aggression is a major improvement over ... well ... ... starting to come across like capsuleers? I suppose it is true that many of the older generation clone would see the Matari as what they once were, and feel embittered about their rebelliions after our defeat by the Jovians, all we desired was the uplift them from the squalor of their dark ages, but they could not understand our goals then. Perhaps in time such bitterness will fade and the Matari will come to understand what we strove to do.
ReGnYuM TeamPlayers EoN. 442	Posted - 2013.07.09 22:25:00 - [9] - Quote Lord Falek Grange wrote: Lord Falek Grange's Minmatar Disposal Service "Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good. Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land. The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood. But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God. Thus they were saved and became God's chosen." - The Scriptures, Book II 2:1 In light of the recent influx of immortal Minmatar dregs scumming up the galaxy, I am happy to announce a mutually beneficial service to cure New Eden of this creeping plague: For the low cost of one million (1,000,000) ISK, I will capture and behead a Minmatar terrorist! As an added bonus, I will include an Amarr-loyalist mercenary from Hellstorm Inc. corp-battle team to fight two (2) of your Amarr FW battles. Minmatar are filthy, and so prices are negotiable. Inquiries must be made in this thread. "Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21 What house do you retire too?
21yrOld Knight Famous.OTF Only The Famous 17	Posted - 2013.07.10 06:51:00 - [10] - Quote You care about the minmatar and say that you will execute them. Why don't you open your eyes and stop listening to your country . I did and my life is more free then it ever will be. If you are hunting the minmatar down then you should include me because fighting against a government who pushes the countries religion on its people is more profitable then attacking a poor mimintar territory. In morals and money.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 524	Posted - 2013.07.10 06:57:00 - [11] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: You care about the minmatar and say that you will execute them. Why don't you open your eyes and stop listening to your country . I did and my life is more free then it ever will be. If you are hunting the minmatar down then you should include me because fighting against a government who pushes the countries religion on its people is more profitable then attacking a poor mimintar territory. In morals and money. I like many other mercs choose to support out nations out of loyalty, we do not need money or infamy when such ideals are on the line. Also I guarantee you fighting for the Amarr is going to net you much greater benefits that fighting for such a misguided people.
21yrOld Knight Famous.OTF Only The Famous 17	Posted - 2013.07.10 07:04:00 - [12] - Quote I don't fight for the minmatar, nor the Amarr, Caladari or Gallente. Only for a lucrative profit and cursing the amarr empire does so.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 591	Posted - 2013.07.10 07:17:00 - [13] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light? It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense? Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario. Owning slaves is a sin and goes against nature. These types of attitudes will not be tolerated and the very people you now enslave will one day rise up and show you the meaning of punishment. I hope I am there for that day. Owning slaves may be wrong but putting slave owners down isn't. Be prepared and ever mindful because history is just a haloreel set on repeat.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 525	Posted - 2013.07.10 08:28:00 - [14] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Harkon Vysarii wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light? It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense? Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario. Owning slaves is a sin and goes against nature. These types of attitudes will not be tolerated and the very people you now enslave will one day rise up and show you the meaning of punishment. I hope I am there for that day. Owning slaves may be wrong but putting slave owners down isn't. Be prepared and ever mindful because history is just a haloreel set on repeat. The Matari shall be converted, there is not if it is a matter of when.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1052	Posted - 2013.07.10 09:03:00 - [15] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Harkon Vysarii wrote: Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light? It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense? Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario. Owning slaves is a sin and goes against nature. These types of attitudes will not be tolerated and the very people you now enslave will one day rise up and show you the meaning of punishment. I hope I am there for that day. Owning slaves may be wrong but putting slave owners down isn't. Be prepared and ever mindful because history is just a haloreel set on repeat. Indeed the enslavement of another is reprehensible, denying them their freedom to think and act as they see fit while taking their home. I can tell you now though that taking your freedom back, reclaiming your home, and giving a just punishment to those who denied it to you while spouting hypocrisies of the importance of freedom for all peoples is a truly wondrous feeling. These are good days now that the Caldari can return Home.
Lord Falek Grange Bragian Order Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.07.17 19:48:00 - [16] - Quote Is there not a just man amongst you?
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 100	Posted - 2013.07.17 20:05:00 - [17] - Quote Lord Falek Grange wrote: Is there not a just man amongst you? Respectfully, Lord Grange, while you are a power-armored supersoldier armed with some of the most destructive man-pack weaponry New Eden has ever seen ... ... so is almost everyone who visits this place. Those with the right sort of, um, holy wrath towards the Matari are probably inclined to find and behead their own terrorists. Also, and also respectfully, Hellstorm mercs do not seem to need very much arm twisting to involve themselves in the war. This is not really a "problem" unless you are trying to get people to pay ISK to get them involved. ... Or you're on the Republic's side, I suppose.
Maikyl Metsar PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 28	Posted - 2013.07.18 04:00:00 - [18] - Quote I would like to state here that PIE, in accordance with the wishes of Her Majesty Empress Jamyl, does not tolerate the brutalization or murder of slaves. "Emperor Heideran VII stated that slaves must be treated fairly, a sentiment our current Empress shares. We, as upholders of the faith and guardians of the Empire, must therefore be seen to treat slaves fairly. If we do not, we go against the word of our Empress and therefore the word of God. PIE Inc members are free to keep and trade slaves. But slaves will not be murdered in cold blood. There is no rational reason for such behaviour, punishments according to the crimes of a slave are of course permitted." - From the PIE Ethos
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 161	Posted - 2013.07.18 04:55:00 - [19] - Quote Maikyl Metsar wrote: I would like to state here that PIE, in accordance with the wishes of Her Majesty Empress Jamyl, does not tolerate the brutalization or murder of slaves. "Emperor Heideran VII stated that slaves must be treated fairly, a sentiment our current Empress shares. We, as upholders of the faith and guardians of the Empire, must therefore be seen to treat slaves fairly. If we do not, we go against the word of our Empress and therefore the word of God. PIE Inc members are free to keep and trade slaves. But slaves will not be murdered in cold blood. There is no rational reason for such behaviour, punishments according to the crimes of a slave are of course permitted." - From the PIE Ethos At least someone over on your side of the border makes some sense.
21yrOld Knight 187. League of Infamy 26	Posted - 2013.07.18 05:04:00 - [20] - Quote Maikyl Metsar wrote: I would like to state here that PIE, in accordance with the wishes of Her Majesty Empress Jamyl, does not tolerate the brutalization or murder of slaves. "Emperor Heideran VII stated that slaves must be treated fairly, a sentiment our current Empress shares. We, as upholders of the faith and guardians of the Empire, must therefore be seen to treat slaves fairly. If we do not, we go against the word of our Empress and therefore the word of God. PIE Inc members are free to keep and trade slaves. But slaves will not be murdered in cold blood. There is no rational reason for such behaviour, punishments according to the crimes of a slave are of course permitted." - From the PIE Ethos unless they escape and for a nation. Then there called terrorists.

Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 101	Posted - 2013.07.18 05:13:00 - [21] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: unless they escape and for a nation. Then there called terrorists. It is possible, sir knight. You may indeed be correct that Lord Grange is talking about the whole of the Republic military when he speaks of "terrorists." Much as I might hope that his aim is not so blurry, it is quite possible. There are other possible definitions of "Minmatar terrorist," however.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 161	Posted - 2013.07.18 05:56:00 - [22] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: unless they escape and for a nation. Then there called terrorists. It is possible, sir knight. You may indeed be correct that Lord Grange is talking about the whole of the Republic military when he speaks of "terrorists." Much as I might hope that his aim is not so blurry, it is quite possible. There are other possible definitions of "Minmatar terrorist," however. Gotta love our fanatics am I right? Oh well this started out pretty much with the same intent, so I wont condem or defend either sides actions.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 741	Posted - 2013.07.18 05:57:00 - [23] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Maikyl Metsar wrote: I would like to state here that PIE, in accordance with the wishes of Her Majesty Empress Jamyl, does not tolerate the brutalization or murder of slaves. "Emperor Heideran VII stated that slaves must be treated fairly, a sentiment our current Empress shares. We, as upholders of the faith and guardians of the Empire, must therefore be seen to treat slaves fairly. If we do not, we go against the word of our Empress and therefore the word of God. PIE Inc members are free to keep and trade slaves. But slaves will not be murdered in cold blood. There is no rational reason for such behaviour, punishments according to the crimes of a slave are of course permitted." - From the PIE Ethos unless they escape and for a nation. Then there called terrorists. If they escape to the Republic and then return to attack our people rather than our soldiers yes they are named such.
21yrOld Knight 187. League of Infamy 26	Posted - 2013.07.18 06:02:00 - [24] - Quote ( out of topic but my reply should say form a nation not for a nation i just realized that.)
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 162	Posted - 2013.07.18 06:09:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: If they escape to the Republic and then return to attack our people rather than our soldiers yes they are named such. So if they escape from slavery then go about normal lives you would just leave them alone and pretend nothing happened then? Also I don't support it myself, but I'm afraid if someone in out culture did what you said we would call them hero's, not terrorist.
21yrOld Knight 187. League of Infamy 26	Posted - 2013.07.18 06:11:00 - [26] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: So if they escape from slavery then go about normal lives you would just leave them alone and pretend nothing happened then? Also I don't support it myself, but I'm afraid if someone in out culture did what you said we would call them hero's, not terrorist. Morality is subjective my dear Templar.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 162	Posted - 2013.07.18 06:18:00 - [27] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: Morality is subjective my dear Templar. But I'm no templar....
21yrOld Knight 187. League of Infamy 26	Posted - 2013.07.18 06:27:00 - [28] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Morality is subjective my dear Templar. But I'm no templar.... ( i messed up i meant true armadence ( sorry for typod true if i have misspelled your name))
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 743	Posted - 2013.07.18 07:21:00 - [29] - Quote 21yrOld Knight wrote: XANDER KAG wrote: True Adamance wrote: If they escape to the Republic and then return to attack our people rather than our soldiers yes they are named such. So if they escape from slavery then go about normal lives you would just leave them alone and pretend nothing happened then? Also I don't support it myself, but I'm afraid if someone in out culture did what you said we would call them hero's, not terrorist. Morality is subjective my dear Templar. Edit: I accidentally took out True ardemence quote before Xander Kag No it is not.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 102	Posted - 2013.07.18 15:53:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: 21yrOld Knight wrote: Morality is subjective my dear Templar. No it is not. Respectfully, templar, I must here agree with the young fool. Morality as it is understood by humans is of course subjective. The Matari see wickedness in you because you conquered their worlds and enslaved many of their people. You do not see these as wicked deeds, but.... In the end, the question is whether the universe, or "God," if you like, has an opinion on the issue, since presumably that would be the only moral opinion to really have weight. You may believe that the universe agrees with your views, but there is, respectfully, little evidence of this. The universe speaks, if at all, only through consequences. That it agrees with you at all is something the rest of us, inevitably, do not believe-- and which you will have to take on faith.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 747	Posted - 2013.07.18 23:00:00 - [31] - Quote No. There are only the Scriptures. They dictate morality. They ensure we follow the righteous path.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 103	Posted - 2013.07.19 01:36:00 - [32] - Quote True Adamance wrote: No. There are only the Scriptures. They dictate morality. They ensure we follow the righteous path. They are the guiding light of your faith, yes? ... your faith, respectfully. For those who follow other paths, it is not apparent that your scriptures contain any universal truth. If it were, you would have a much easier job saving the souls of humankind.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 748	Posted - 2013.07.19 03:35:00 - [33] - Quote Yun Hee Ryeon wrote: True Adamance wrote: No. There are only the Scriptures. They dictate morality. They ensure we follow the righteous path. They are the guiding light of your faith, yes? ... your faith, respectfully. For those who follow other paths, it is not apparent that your scriptures contain any universal truth. If it were, you would have a much easier job saving the souls of humankind. There is only one faith.... but I see we shall not yet agree on that at this time.
Yun Hee Ryeon Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 107	Posted - 2013.07.19 04:38:00 - [34] - Quote True Adamance wrote: There is only one faith.... but I see we shall not yet agree on that at this time. There are many faiths, templar, if we define "a faith" to be any religion. I normally do: it is a topic in which "faith" is a defining trait. It seems an odd point over which to argue. There may be only one that can be "true." They are not all mutually exclusive, however.


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