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Yun Hee Ryeon
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Posted - 2013.07.05 16:23:00 -
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You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light?
It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense?
Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. |
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Posted - 2013.07.05 23:50:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Yun Hee Ryeon wrote:You would kill your charges? Those your civilization has taken unto itself to bring into your god's light?
It is your faith, so you would know better than I, but, are you actually supposed to be doing that? And a member of PIE, encouraging the murder of a slave who has not even given offense?
Gods and spirits grant this is an isolated incident, and not an early sign of what we will become. Yun we are supportive of the dealing of the Caldari and the Amarr. Adamance does not suggest we kill slaves. Emperor Heideran instructed us to treat all slaves fairly, and to go against his words would be going against God. He suggests we kill rebellious Matari terrorists. Note how Lord Falek metions the immortal matari. No slave is made immortal, nor immortal made slave, such is a dangerous scenario.
He's modified his post since my remark, Mr. Vysarii, modifying "slave" to "terrorist." Note the time of his last edit.
I'm perfectly willing (and relieved) to believe that the original was a typo. |
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Posted - 2013.07.17 20:05:00 -
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Lord Falek Grange wrote:Is there not a just man amongst you?
Respectfully, Lord Grange, while you are a power-armored supersoldier armed with some of the most destructive man-pack weaponry New Eden has ever seen ...
... so is almost everyone who visits this place. Those with the right sort of, um, holy wrath towards the Matari are probably inclined to find and behead their own terrorists.
Also, and also respectfully, Hellstorm mercs do not seem to need very much arm twisting to involve themselves in the war. This is not really a "problem" unless you are trying to get people to pay ISK to get them involved. ... Or you're on the Republic's side, I suppose. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 05:13:00 -
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21yrOld Knight wrote:unless they escape and for a nation. Then there called terrorists.
It is possible, sir knight. You may indeed be correct that Lord Grange is talking about the whole of the Republic military when he speaks of "terrorists." Much as I might hope that his aim is not so blurry, it is quite possible.
There are other possible definitions of "Minmatar terrorist," however. |
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Posted - 2013.07.18 15:53:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:21yrOld Knight wrote:Morality is subjective my dear Templar. No it is not.
Respectfully, templar, I must here agree with the young fool.
Morality as it is understood by humans is of course subjective. The Matari see wickedness in you because you conquered their worlds and enslaved many of their people. You do not see these as wicked deeds, but....
In the end, the question is whether the universe, or "God," if you like, has an opinion on the issue, since presumably that would be the only moral opinion to really have weight. You may believe that the universe agrees with your views, but there is, respectfully, little evidence of this.
The universe speaks, if at all, only through consequences. That it agrees with you at all is something the rest of us, inevitably, do not believe-- and which you will have to take on faith. |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 01:36:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:No. There are only the Scriptures. They dictate morality. They ensure we follow the righteous path.
They are the guiding light of your faith, yes?
... your faith, respectfully. For those who follow other paths, it is not apparent that your scriptures contain any universal truth. If it were, you would have a much easier job saving the souls of humankind. |
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Posted - 2013.07.19 04:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:There is only one faith.... but I see we shall not yet agree on that at this time.
There are many faiths, templar, if we define "a faith" to be any religion. I normally do: it is a topic in which "faith" is a defining trait. It seems an odd point over which to argue.
There may be only one that can be "true." They are not all mutually exclusive, however. |
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