1 swarm AV nade for freefit LAV's? Yea sure, just not the skilled ones.

I couldn't agree with you more. I actually had this conversation with several people yesterday and I, and many others I spoke with, feel that you shouldn't be given any free vehicles and should have to spec into them to be able to use them. I could see maybe giving the speed bike everyone keeps talking about as a starter vehicle once it's out but for the short term ccp needs to realize nobody uses the vehicles the way they intended. Nobody is driving accross the map dropping their shotgun off and alpha and laying support fire with the turret while protecting and patrolling the area. Newbs and noobs alike are jumping in the baloch and murder taxis all by their lonesome and sending heavies and proto logis flying like rag dolls. Translation, it's imba and allows for people who have not even skilled in vehicle command or modules to simply pad stats and annoy people who work ten times harder at the game than they do.

Here's an idea. Learn to dodge the Mad Taxi Drivers. Don't sit out in the roads? Use your STARTER AV fit to destroy LAVs, earning 90 WPs per kill?

If anything, I'd like them to fix it to where my LAV doesn't pop a massive wheelie whenever I hit an enemy. I can understand bumps and minor changes to control, but right now, my Taxi Driver ends up losing all his momentum when he gets a Scout on the windshield.

Though the starter Baloch is far better. Armor LAV, spawns with a Blaster instead of a Missile Turret that does almost no damage and never hits where you intend it to go, even at a standstill.

Also, we're a lot more vulnerable driving LAVs, I've noticed. I've been getting headshots from SMGs and such at fair range, whilst moving. I like and hate this change.

You've just ran someone over .. LAV have wheels and clone bodies have mass, you can't expect to run someone over and have your LAV act like its driving over flat ground and your vehicle should lose momentum when you hit someone and i think you should take damage equal to the shield/armour of the person you just ran over as well so if you run a heavy over you lose a huge chunk of shield/armour just as you would if you crashed into a wall at speed .. btw it scared the hell out of me yesterday when i ran someone over and my LAV did a wheelie ... it actually felt like i'd ran someone over so for me although it makes driving more awkward after running someone over its definitely more realistic and fairer

I hope they listen to my non vehicle game mode idea taking place in space stations then we'll see if you can actually use a gun

This would make running people over a lot more tacticle. No more; roadkill, roadkill, roadkill, turn, roadkill, oops some brought out AV's find group with less AV's.
It would be more like; roadkill, roadkill, **** gotta repair or the next one takes me with it.

Ever hit a deer? You may have killed it, but it screwed up your car.

Additionally, running over a heavy in a free LAV should blow up the vehicle/severe damage and only do one third that to the heavy leaving the possibility of surviving.

Here's an idea. Learn to dodge the Mad Taxi Drivers. Don't sit out in the roads? Use your STARTER AV fit to destroy LAVs, earning 90 WPs per kill?

If anything, I'd like them to fix it to where my LAV doesn't pop a massive wheelie whenever I hit an enemy. I can understand bumps and minor changes to control, but right now, my Taxi Driver ends up losing all his momentum when he gets a Scout on the windshield.

Though the starter Baloch is far better. Armor LAV, spawns with a Blaster instead of a Missile Turret that does almost no damage and never hits where you intend it to go, even at a standstill.

Also, we're a lot more vulnerable driving LAVs, I've noticed. I've been getting headshots from SMGs and such at fair range, whilst moving. I like and hate this change.

We still need to let the newbs in academy know that vehicles exist, i think we should give all players 10 copies of ALL starter vehicles, which have been already added to the fittings menu.
After those 10 copies are gone, they have to buy their baloch's/pwnikuma

As in, please remove the free starter onikuma.

Now that vehicle spawns are faster and more fluid to control, the LAV spam is becoming ridiculous. I was in a skirmish match today (three objectives map) and in pure honestly the opposing team did nothing but spam LAVs. On that 1 map, the opposing team had 2 tanks (no complaint there) and 3 onikumas just driving around and running over anyone. I went swarm launchers for the entirety of the game since the opposing team always spawned a new vehicle once one was destroyed. I also had AV grenades equipped but what can av grenades do when three cars are rushing you at the same time? Please either remove the free starter LAV (onikuma) OR make it so 1 av grenade/swarm destroys it. Dust514 is not frogger.

Please learn how to deal with free LAVS or all LAVS for that matter.

1. Stay away from open areas as I always do easy spot to be road kill at.
2. Always bring AV grenades if you don't have any equipped follow step 1.
3. Bring a starter swarm launcher fit or equip a militia forge gun on a militia heavy
4. Find any instillation and blow them to hell
5. Stick with an ally chances are he's caring AV
6. Get in your tank or find an allied tank and blow the LAV to hell
7. Get in your own LAV and chase the guy around the map for an hour

If you can not do 1 through 7 you deserve to die.

Also how hard is it to get to somewhere the LAV just can't get you...

1 swarm AV nade for freefit LAV's? Yea sure, just not the skilled ones.

As in, please remove the free starter onikuma.

Now that vehicle spawns are faster and more fluid to control, the LAV spam is becoming ridiculous. I was in a skirmish match today (three objectives map) and in pure honestly the opposing team did nothing but spam LAVs. On that 1 map, the opposing team had 2 tanks (no complaint there) and 3 onikumas just driving around and running over anyone. I went swarm launchers for the entirety of the game since the opposing team always spawned a new vehicle once one was destroyed. I also had AV grenades equipped but what can av grenades do when three cars are rushing you at the same time? Please either remove the free starter LAV (onikuma) OR make it so 1 av grenade/swarm destroys it. Dust514 is not frogger.

I don't think that LAVs are necessary to participate in the game and thus they shouldn't be free. If the devs really want to keep them free then I'd suggest applying the rule of "you get what you pay for". That means free LAVs should die to pretty much anything that hits harder than an AR.

Again, bought LAVs are a completely different topic.

in eve you get a free rookie ship... and you can have as many as you want... people have used this to crash the server spamming hundreds with throw away alts and have blobbed very expensive ships with them for successful kills... I don't see why dust 514, being part of the eve world should be any different.

you have the solution right here... swarms... and av nades...if the enemy wants to keep spamming them let them... blow them up get WP get orbitals... I don't see the problem.