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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 03:39:00 -
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Why on earth would you give it less range and 100 less DPS than a normal AR...
It just doesn't make sense. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 03:45:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:It needs to serve its time as a crap weapon to make up for the CreoDron Breach's of the dark times.
lol
I remember that.
It was a dark time indeed... |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 03:56:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:If the TAC and breach AR swapped damage and clip size with the TAC given its prenerf RoF they would be perfectly balanced and would match their weapon descriptions.
TAC AR is perfect as is.
It does what it's supposed to do, I really don't see the issue with it. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:14:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:If the TAC and breach AR swapped damage and clip size with the TAC given its prenerf RoF they would be perfectly balanced and would match their weapon descriptions. TAC AR is perfect as is. It does what it's supposed to do, I really don't see the issue with it. Read the breach AR weapon description and the TAC description. I'm on vacation so if 1.2 changed the descriptions then my bad.
I see.
But I don't think giving the TAR 51 damage is a good idea... |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:25:00 -
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Croned wrote:A lot of people have already stopped using TARs, especially when you have an advanced Scrambler Rifle for cheaper than an advanced TAR. There's no need to run it into the ground. It'd be 10 times worse than the breach currently is, and that's saying something.
Scrambler rifles overheat, TAR's don't.
Trust me, the TAR is still effective, it's just QQ from people who used it when it was ridiculos. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:26:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:It desperately needs a range buff, otherwise its passable, not ideal but passable
Range buff and +50 DPS for each variant. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:32:00 -
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Croned wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Croned wrote:A lot of people have already stopped using TARs, especially when you have an advanced Scrambler Rifle for cheaper than an advanced TAR. There's no need to run it into the ground. It'd be 10 times worse than the breach currently is, and that's saying something. Scrambler rifles overheat, TAR's don't. Trust me, the TAR is still effective, it's just QQ from people who used it when it was ridiculos. Imagine double Scrambler Rifles on a commando suit. Never an overheat, uncountered damage. If only the commando could actually fit anything worth crap. 27 PG on the standard, really? Anyways, the overheat on the Scrambler Rifle is basically its equivalent to the TAR's small clip size.
Only I can switch mag, sprint, switch weapons, whatever.
In addition to taking damage from the overheat, you can't do anything but bunnyhope and hope for the best.
I tried both, TAR is just better. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:34:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Croned wrote:A lot of people have already stopped using TARs, especially when you have an advanced Scrambler Rifle for cheaper than an advanced TAR. There's no need to run it into the ground. It'd be 10 times worse than the breach currently is, and that's saying something. Scrambler rifles overheat, TAR's don't. Trust me, the TAR is still effective, it's just QQ from people who used it when it was ridiculos. TAR is back to working how it should, It's not meant for run'n'gun or cqc, it's designed for a support role, offering your squad some precise and nasty hits from better range. Same for the burst, if you know how and when to use that gun, it's immensley powerful, use it wrong and its tripe. variations
Burst has the issue of hit detection.
Rarely do all bullets connect, unless the target is standing still.
If it was better then man this weapon would be awesome. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 04:51:00 -
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Tuna the Fish wrote:I've been having pretty good success with hipfiring the breach AR. Maybe the breach is supposed to be a hipfire/CQC specialty weapon (in spite of what the description is)?
You had success because your enemy sucks.
A normal AR would beat it simply for the fact that it has 100 more DPS. |
Cat Merc
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Posted - 2013.07.04 05:10:00 -
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Tuna the Fish wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Tuna the Fish wrote:I've been having pretty good success with hipfiring the breach AR. Maybe the breach is supposed to be a hipfire/CQC specialty weapon (in spite of what the description is)? You had success because your enemy sucks. A normal AR would beat it simply for the fact that it has 100 more DPS. Actually, I've been holding my own against protos (whether or not they are sucky protos, who can say). The normal AR wouldn't help much the way I'm using the breach (which is not the same way I would use a normal AR). The lower fire rate and tighter hip spread makes it more controllable, so I can bob and weave while landing hits more easily. I'm just wondering if it is supposed to be a CQC weapon, or if it's just broken to the point where it's not usable otherwise.
Its supposed to be a CQC weapon.
But CQC weapon are supposed to give you high fire rate low damage, so that a missed shot doesn't reduce your total DPS as much as from lets say a burst AR would. |
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