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Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1630	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:08:00 - [1] - Quote This is one of my multiple ideas to help new players. I have created a channel where vets can help new players in Dust. If youGÇÖre a new player, or want to help new players, join the channel GÇ£Dust HelpGÇ¥. I will try to watch this channel as much as possible using my free time. In this channel, you are welcome to ask questions, answer questions if you know the answer, or if you want I will gladly squad up with you if you need detailed help. If you donGÇÖt have a mic, I have a keyboard connected to my PS3 to answer your questions quickly. Here are my goals: Stay on this channel as much as I can to answer your questions Take new players into combat so I can show them the game Try to get CCPGÇÖs support, to make this channel a default one like EVEGÇÖs help channel -- Or at least try to get this stickied Recruit other players who are willing to help Keep the list of helpers updated in this thread List of helpers so far: Cat Merc Noob Kitten (My alt from another project) If you want me to add you to the list, feel free to comment here. If you are on the list, that means you will watch the channel as much as you can, answer questions and try to get newbies on their feet by squadding up with them.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1630	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:14:00 - [2] - Quote Oso Peresoso wrote: considering there's a mandatory EVE Help channel for new pilots, I think its strange there was not one for Dust. Yes. I have talked with mintchip about this, their reason is that text chat on a console isn't ideal. They have something else planned though she didn't tell me what it is.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1631	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:20:00 - [3] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Always in to help! meow
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1631	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:26:00 - [4] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: I might join the channel to help out. I might be on at times when you are not. The challenge though will be informing the new players that the channel exists. Fox Gaden, Director of Education, DUST University That would be great Fox. What timezone are you?
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1632	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:32:00 - [5] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: You should post this in the Rookie Training Grounds. I'll add this to my list of open channels. Should I add you to the list?
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1632	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:35:00 - [6] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: You should post this in the Rookie Training Grounds. I'll add this to my list of open channels. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=91559&find=unread
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1634	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:46:00 - [7] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: I may contribute... I may mislead people at random. (Watch as they skill into Myofibril Stimulants and Scrambler Pistols) Just kidding. Or am I? I will shoot you. Again. And again. And again.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1634	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:48:00 - [8] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Daedric Lothar wrote: You should post this in the Rookie Training Grounds. I'll add this to my list of open channels. Should I add you to the list? I got alot of responsibilities, I'll add it to my chat list and when I'm on I'll talk if I see anything, but I'm not on much. That's alright. Are you EU or US?
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1637	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:15:00 - [9] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I would like to help. EU TZ. Also, did you block me on Skype? Just 'cause I said I was going Caldari. No I didn't.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1640	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:37:00 - [10] - Quote DS 10 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Yeah I think a channel is great! It's always good to see those in the community step up and try to make the SOCIAL beginning for new players better. We can lead a horse to water, but we can't make them drink! So if you guys are good to new players and help each other out - there's ENDLESS possibilities! Stares into the distance Your enthusiasm is hilarious. Anywho, throw me on the list, Cat. You need some NA reps. I'll either be on DS 10 or DS Training. Hey DS, do you mind making a video to spread the word about this?

Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1640	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:51:00 - [11] - Quote DS 10 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: DS 10 wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: Yeah I think a channel is great! It's always good to see those in the community step up and try to make the SOCIAL beginning for new players better. We can lead a horse to water, but we can't make them drink! So if you guys are good to new players and help each other out - there's ENDLESS possibilities! Stares into the distance Your enthusiasm is hilarious. Anywho, throw me on the list, Cat. You need some NA reps. I'll either be on DS 10 or DS Training. Hey DS, do you mind making a video to spread the word about this? Actually, that works out perfectly. Next New Player's Guide video is about the chat menu. Awesome. I'll be sure to check that out.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1642	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:21:00 - [12] - Quote Ana Mosity wrote: Nin Ker wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Nin Ker wrote: The new player experience can't be accurately measured by an experienced player. Since you know the maps, the weapons and the game modes. If you really want to do a project, meet new players. Speak to new players and group up with them. Hear what they have to say and act on that feedback. Doing a project based primarily on an experienced player creating an alt is as I have said, not a new player experience. Being that I have only been playing a relatively short time and seen not only the amount you post but the average quality of said posts, I don't think you should be a representative of any kind. Why did I say that? I get the feeling you're angling for a CPM position next year. Trying to make yourself an advocate of something. I am putting some limits on myself to mimic what a player would do. For example, I won't be fitting anything until after the second match. I am also giving my sister a go with this game to see how she reacts. I will document this as well, but she is not available right now. And while yes, I post frequently and my quality of posts is, lets say, subpar (:P), that's because I am annoyed with what CCP is doing. I want this game to succeed, so this is my way of trying to help. And no, I do not want to be on the CPM, this is more commitment than I can really take. It's a comment issue, your sure? As not five hours seems to go passed without a new thread. If you really want to improve the new player experience, truly want to do it. Then I'd be happy to help but I'd strongly suggest over hauling the idea. Make a channel for new players. Promote it here on the forums. See if we can't get a Eve Dev to make it a community spot light so people know it exists. CCP Mintchip might even help with that, community liaison and all. Play some matches with them and take notes on what they have to say. It may sound like a lot of work but split between two or three people (especially if they happened to be in different time zones) would make a project like this remarkably easy. Organize meet and greet events. See if we can't get representatives from established corporations and alliance to pop in and lead a squad or just tag along. Offering advice on fits, suits, play styles. All of this would help make the game more welcoming, more open and hopefully give people a desire to keep fighting. Great idea, but at least credit the person that gave it to you and not claim it was yours. Look below his post. I had this idea for a while, him suggesting it made it clear that this is a good idea. The problem with me is that I never know what is a good idea or not, and I tend to shy away from ideas like these. "Play some matches with them and take notes on what they have to say. It may sound like a lot of work but split between two or three people (especially if they happened to be in different time zones) would make a project like this remarkably easy. Organize meet and greet events. See if we can't get representatives from established corporations and alliance to pop in and lead a squad or just tag along. Offering advice on fits, suits, play styles." This however is new to me, and I will fully credit him for this idea.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1642	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:24:00 - [13] - Quote Ana Mosity wrote: lol whatever. Someone detailed the idea word for word and you happened to do it a few hours later. Good idea all the same, just clearly not yours. No really, it's not that hard to think of it. EVE has a channel like this, and it always bothered me why Dust doesn't. I don't like to do community effort projects, so I shy'd away from doing this. Edit: Oh and he gave me the idea to contact mintchip.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1642	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:27:00 - [14] - Quote Nin Ker wrote: I don't actually mind who uses it. So long as it helps new players enjoy the game a lot more. Still, I would like to thank you for giving me the idea to contact mintchip.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1644	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:34:00 - [15] - Quote Nin Ker wrote: I've been trying to save up for a District so it can host 16 vs 16 militia fit fights, slow going but I'm getting there. Good idea. I believe Dust University had this idea a while ago though. I remember them opening a thread, asking to have a control of a planet so they can train their people there. Didn't go well :P
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1644	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:35:00 - [16] - Quote DS 10 wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Ana Mosity wrote: lol whatever. Someone detailed the idea word for word and you happened to do it a few hours later. Good idea all the same, just clearly not yours. No really, it's not that hard to think of it. EVE has a channel like this, and it always bothered me why Dust doesn't. I don't like to do community effort projects, so I shy'd away from doing this. Edit: Oh and he gave me the idea to contact mintchip. G I A N T has been doing a lot of training lately and we were considering doing what you're doing. Regardless of who does it, if there is support from veteran players, it will help the new players as long as they know about it. That's the biggest issue. A fraction of the Dust population frequents the forums/YouTube/other. An even smaller percentage of new players do. Which is why I want to get CCP's support and have this channel a default one.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1644	Posted - 2013.07.03 21:57:00 - [17] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: EternalRMG wrote: ill help too Us time Alright I'll add you to the list.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1650	Posted - 2013.07.03 23:56:00 - [18] - Quote Knight SoIaire wrote: It is my sworn duty to protect this thread from falling back more than one page. o7 Thank you very much :) Also, added those who decided to help and gave me a timezone.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1650	Posted - 2013.07.03 23:56:00 - [19] - Quote achiever wrote: hey cat add me I am on a lot and been in dust from the start and know just about every in dust and eve too put me in all tz I work from home so I be on tru all tz Please give me your timezone so I can put you on the list.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1650	Posted - 2013.07.03 23:59:00 - [20] - Quote Alright I think I'll quit for the night. I'll come back tomorrow to put anyone new on the list.

Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1694	Posted - 2013.07.04 17:48:00 - [21] - Quote Updated the list :)
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1694	Posted - 2013.07.04 17:55:00 - [22] - Quote Poplo Furuya wrote: Go on then, sign me up. Can occasionally be serious. Timezone's EU. Added to the list :)
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1700	Posted - 2013.07.04 18:55:00 - [23] - Quote Cat. I'm a kitty cat. And I meow meow meow. And I meow meow meow.
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1704	Posted - 2013.07.04 19:13:00 - [24] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: I might join the channel to help out. I might be on at times when you are not. The challenge though will be informing the new players that the channel exists. Fox Gaden, Director of Education, DUST University That would be great Fox. What timezone are you? And yes, that was another reason I contacted mint chip. I wanted to see if CCP could make a default channel for Dust, or sticky this thread. I have joined the Channel. US Time Zone. I often play just before Down Time (morning for me, but prime time for Down Under.) Alright, you're on the list :)
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 2098	Posted - 2013.07.09 09:27:00 - [25] - Quote Updated :)
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 2105	Posted - 2013.07.09 10:37:00 - [26] - Quote Updated list :)
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 2111	Posted - 2013.07.09 12:11:00 - [27] - Quote achiever wrote: well I guess this is for just some of us because page 3 frist post I ask too be add too list seeing I know alot about dust seeing that I been here from day 1 but I was not added so I say it must be hate that I was not added too the list so cat I will shoot you in the back shooting you face too face would be just too nice:) You didn't give me your time zone :) I said to specificy time zone, or else I can't add you to the list.
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 2112	Posted - 2013.07.09 12:44:00 - [28] - Quote List updated
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 2112	Posted - 2013.07.09 13:25:00 - [29] - Quote Updated and fixed spelling mistake :P
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3289	Posted - 2013.07.19 08:09:00 - [30] - Quote meow

Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3345	Posted - 2013.07.19 21:42:00 - [31] - Quote List updated :)
Cat Merc BetaMax. CRONOS. 3345	Posted - 2013.07.19 21:48:00 - [32] - Quote Vethosis wrote: vethosis, I can help with getting respecs. Was about to add you. I c wat you did there.