DUST Search - PETITION: CCP Revert the Strafe Speed to Pre 1.2 Levels

Aeon Amadi wrote:

xjumpman23 wrote:

Aeon Amadi wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

xjumpman23 wrote:

Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD

lol

#JUMPISBUTTHURT

When have we ever had more than 6k....?

You're a carebear and need to stop further ruining this game

#DUSTISBAD 9,225 players is the most we've ever had on this game that was 5/19

Dude if anyone ruined this game it was your kind. You have no concern for balance and apparently no useful knowledge in game development, trying to turn a high HP team-based game with large maps into an infinite weapon range twitch shooter. This game needs its own niche, not to follow with what Infinity Ward is already marketing, and you need to understand that.

Not that you will. Youre self interested and if youre not the only one who can win then it must be broken or ruined. There is no "get good" in this kind of game, rheres balances and counters. Its advanced rock paper scissors not "fastest shooter wins". Gtfo.

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Aisha Ctarl The Generals EoN. 389	Posted - 2013.07.03 18:36:00 - [1] - Quote I don't care how badly I get flamed, called out, ostracized, whatever - this new strafe speed has got to go. I call for CCP to return the strafe speed back to 1.2 levels. The new strafe speeds introduced in 1.2 encourage "twitch gameplay" and discourages tactics and smart gun game. The new strafe speeds also give a HUGE advantage to KB/M users who can be spotted miles away pirouetting all over the place. I'm sorry, but it's got to go.
Rubico Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 27	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:26:00 - [2] - Quote This is going to go about as well as the petition to revert aiming to chomosome
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4328	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:27:00 - [3] - Quote We have enough threads on this, just discuss it in those threads. This will do nothing other than bring out the trolls.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2490	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:29:00 - [4] - Quote not gonna happen. This game is built for shield tankers. Increased strafe speeds helps who? You got it! Shield tankers!
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 378	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:31:00 - [5] - Quote Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2159	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:31:00 - [6] - Quote You have it backwards. Go play Quake 2 and Unreal Tournament and see how strafing was back then. Better strafe speed is a good thing because fights don't always go into the favor of who has the fastest trigger finger.
RoTTeN-1 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 14	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:34:00 - [7] - Quote I will say the same thing in this crappy thread as I did in the other. Strafe speed should be faster but this is a good start. Game plays much better now, It rewards players that can move there body while keeping crosshairs on target. We just need aiming tuned up and the game might be fun again. BTW FU to the people that want it slowed down again. PS Strafe speed was already slowed down a little over a year ago, We are only getting back about 5% that they took away.
Poplo Furuya Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 181	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:41:00 - [8] - Quote At the very least tying it to movement speed stat would be a start. Homogenising strafe speed was a bit of an odd move. I do like the faster strafing myself but it shouldn't be the case that a heavy and a light are equal in this regard. Scouts could do with a bit more emphasis on their mobility advantage. Higher strafe speeds than other suits would be a good start. The unique ability to reload while sprinting, maybe? Could be interesting with a Plasma Cannon, make them a glass cannon hit 'n' run bombardment type. Backpedalling could also do with a speed penalty. At the moment it uses your full walking speed. Lesser priority though. For the general gist I reckon mediums should be just slightly less nippy at strafing aside from Min who has around current values. Heavies ought to be a decent amount slower and lights slightly faster.
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1302	Posted - 2013.07.03 19:41:00 - [9] - Quote I don't even pop my head outside of my tank and I like the better strafe speeds.
Crimson Moon V Imperfects Negative-Feedback 251	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:06:00 - [10] - Quote This has been discussed to death in the past. Strafe speeds make the game more fun and exciting. CCP has made their decision. If you can't hit someone while they are strafing in this build then you need to HTFU and L2aim. Strafe speeds are not as high as they used to be in replication. This build is a very good middle ground. Now everyone meet in the mcc for a dance party and get drunk on the flood of tears harvested from these threads. I will bring the coke. http://youtu.be/6pOq4hyoX9g

DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4338	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:07:00 - [11] - Quote Cosgar wrote: You have it backwards. Go play Quake 2 and Unreal Tournament and see how strafing was back then. Better strafe speed is a good thing because fights don't always go into the favor of who has the fastest trigger finger. You're welcome to go play old games that no one cares about.
Kiro Justice Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 176	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:09:00 - [12] - Quote Hell to the ******* naw!
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1749	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:24:00 - [13] - Quote +1 New strafe speeds have placed an even larger imbalance on Shield/Armor tanking and made CQC options like Shotguns and Nova Knives near useless. Dust shouldnt be trying to appeal to BF3, or CoD, or Halo - it should have its own niche without trying to appeal to acertain crowd. Doing so is only hurting player retention and Twitch Shooters never sat down with one game for very long, which is what Dust needs right now.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1749	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:25:00 - [14] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: This has been discussed to death in the past. Strafe speeds make the game more fun and exciting. CCP has made their decision. If you can't hit someone while they are strafing in this build then you need to HTFU and L2aim. Strafe speeds are not as high as they used to be in replication. This build is a very good middle ground. Now everyone meet in the mcc for a dance party and get drunk on the flood of tears harvested from these threads. I will bring the coke. http://youtu.be/6pOq4hyoX9g Fairly certain Imperfects are the only ones who like faster strafe speeds.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 497	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:26:00 - [15] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD lol #JUMPISBUTTHURT
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1754	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:38:00 - [16] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD lol #JUMPISBUTTHURT When have we ever had more than 6k....?
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 497	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:40:00 - [17] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD lol #JUMPISBUTTHURT When have we ever had more than 6k....? I remember seeing nearly 8k at one point, I believe it was right after "commercial release"
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4349	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:43:00 - [18] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: When have we ever had more than 6k....? Also, just as an aside, I find it amusing when people say having a mechanic like this will help player retention. The vast majority of DUST players, or really FPS players in general, lack the ability consistently predict and then readjust their aim to get a hit, over and over and over again. So in reality, what this does is further push the segregation between less skilled players and those who just play a lot / are lucky enough to have lightning hands. So really, mechanics like this will only serve to further frustrate the players who are already being stomped by older players, and in turn will only decrease player retention, rather than increase it. It will also lead to TONS more of THIS (I AM the one who told CCP to do stuff for the lulz....guess it's coming back to bite me)
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 379	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:43:00 - [19] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD lol #JUMPISBUTTHURT When have we ever had more than 6k....? You're a carebear and need to stop further ruining this game #DUSTISBAD 9,225 players is the most we've ever had on this game that was 5/19
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1754	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:44:00 - [20] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD lol #JUMPISBUTTHURT When have we ever had more than 6k....? I remember seeing nearly 8k at one point, I believe it was right after "commercial release" Such Large portion of a small player base. Why are we catering to players who were good tk begin with exactly? Oh, they werent good they were just shield tanking trolls.

Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2164	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:47:00 - [21] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Cosgar wrote: You have it backwards. Go play Quake 2 and Unreal Tournament and see how strafing was back then. Better strafe speed is a good thing because fights don't always go into the favor of who has the fastest trigger finger. You're welcome to go play old games that no one cares about. Do you complain about strafing in Borderlands?
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1757	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:48:00 - [22] - Quote xjumpman23 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD lol #JUMPISBUTTHURT When have we ever had more than 6k....? You're a carebear and need to stop further ruining this game #DUSTISBAD 9,225 players is the most we've ever had on this game that was 5/19 Dude if anyone ruined this game it was your kind. You have no concern for balance and apparently no useful knowledge in game development, trying to turn a high HP team-based game with large maps into an infinite weapon range twitch shooter. This game needs its own niche, not to follow with what Infinity Ward is already marketing, and you need to understand that. Not that you will. Youre self interested and if youre not the only one who can win then it must be broken or ruined. There is no "get good" in this kind of game, rheres balances and counters. Its advanced rock paper scissors not "fastest shooter wins". Gtfo.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1757	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:49:00 - [23] - Quote Cosgar wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Cosgar wrote: You have it backwards. Go play Quake 2 and Unreal Tournament and see how strafing was back then. Better strafe speed is a good thing because fights don't always go into the favor of who has the fastest trigger finger. You're welcome to go play old games that no one cares about. Do you complain about strafing in Borderlands? I wasnt aware Borderlands was a persistent world MMOFPS that ties into a game that requires a tactful mind and a great deal of patience.
Acturus Galaxy Horizons' Edge Orion Empire 63	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:50:00 - [24] - Quote I like the new strafing speeds even though I prefer the more tactical play than the twich play and never really liked COD or BF. It is actually great fun. Maybe it is because I used to play Doom, Quake and Unreal allot before taking a break from FPS games. Only downside is that everyone is running around and it has gotten more difficult as logi to find a blue dot group to rep and revive. I also had to strip off the old plates for the new plate modules to keep up with everyone else. I feel bad for the snipers, it must have gotten much more difficult hitting anyone.
xjumpman23 Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 379	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:50:00 - [25] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: xjumpman23 wrote: Carebear514 always wins. DUST514 will go back to having under 5K players next week when it comes out the increase in strafe speeds weren't intended. #DUSTISBAD lol #JUMPISBUTTHURT When have we ever had more than 6k....? You're a carebear and need to stop further ruining this game #DUSTISBAD 9,225 players is the most we've ever had on this game that was 5/19 Dude if anyone ruined this game it was your kind. You have no concern for balance and apparently no useful knowledge in game development, trying to turn a high HP team-based game with large maps into an infinite weapon range twitch shooter. This game needs its own niche, not to follow with what Infinity Ward is already marketing, and you need to understand that. Not that you will. Youre self interested and if youre not the only one who can win then it must be broken or ruined. There is no "get good" in this kind of game, rheres balances and counters. Its advanced rock paper scissors not "fastest shooter wins". Gtfo. Feelings have been caught. Thread has been turned into a classic #MissionAcomplished.
Skipper Jones Red Star. EoN. 224	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:51:00 - [26] - Quote Agree. Strafing speeds didn't need to be changed
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4354	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:52:00 - [27] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Do you complain about strafing in Borderlands? I was unaware that Borderlands was a multiplayer versus shooter with aspirations to enter into the competitive world of E-Sports. My bad.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 2164	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:53:00 - [28] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Cosgar wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Cosgar wrote: You have it backwards. Go play Quake 2 and Unreal Tournament and see how strafing was back then. Better strafe speed is a good thing because fights don't always go into the favor of who has the fastest trigger finger. You're welcome to go play old games that no one cares about. Do you complain about strafing in Borderlands? I wasnt aware Borderlands was a persistent world MMOFPS that ties into a game that requires a tactful mind and a great deal of patience. I was just bringing up a more relevant game that has old school style strafing and character building that somewhat resembles Dust 514. Unfortunately, I don't say any arguments as to why strafing is bad aside from people trying to argue that it's making the game more twitch/arcade style, which is completely bass ackwards.
RoTTeN-1 Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:54:00 - [29] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: This has been discussed to death in the past. Strafe speeds make the game more fun and exciting. CCP has made their decision. If you can't hit someone while they are strafing in this build then you need to HTFU and L2aim. Strafe speeds are not as high as they used to be in replication. This build is a very good middle ground. Now everyone meet in the mcc for a dance party and get drunk on the flood of tears harvested from these threads. I will bring the coke. http://youtu.be/6pOq4hyoX9g Fairly certain Imperfects are the only ones who like faster strafe speeds. Fairly certain you are wrong, Im not with the Imps and love the increased strafe speeds. For all you babies that cry. I have 2x the friends who may comeback to play the game now. Strafe 4Da win.
MlDDLE MANGEMENT lMPurity 37	Posted - 2013.07.03 20:55:00 - [30] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: This has been discussed to death in the past. Strafe speeds make the game more fun and exciting. CCP has made their decision. If you can't hit someone while they are strafing in this build then you need to HTFU and L2aim. Strafe speeds are not as high as they used to be in replication. This build is a very good middle ground. Now everyone meet in the mcc for a dance party and get drunk on the flood of tears harvested from these threads. I will bring the coke. http://youtu.be/6pOq4hyoX9g Fairly certain Imperfects are the only ones who like faster strafe speeds. I'll bet you your player account vs mine that you're wrong.



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