Do you complain about strafing in Borderlands?

Dude if anyone ruined this game it was your kind. You have no concern for balance and apparently no useful knowledge in game development, trying to turn a high HP team-based game with large maps into an infinite weapon range twitch shooter. This game needs its own niche, not to follow with what Infinity Ward is already marketing, and you need to understand that.

Not that you will. Youre self interested and if youre not the only one who can win then it must be broken or ruined. There is no "get good" in this kind of game, rheres balances and counters. Its advanced rock paper scissors not "fastest shooter wins". Gtfo.

Quake was a bad game in my opinion.

It's the fact that this is a different game. Strafing speed + Bad aiming = Not fun game. I enjoyed playing before 1.2. I agree that strafing is a part of the game, but how are you supposed to try and track a player that is moving erratically with no path of any kind.

I just want the strafing speed back to Uprising 1.0

I was just bringing up a more relevant game that has old school style strafing and character building that somewhat resembles Dust 514. Unfortunately, I don't say any arguments as to why strafing is bad aside from people trying to argue that it's making the game more twitch/arcade style, which is completely bass ackwards.

So, your only defense is that because aiming is still bad = strafing should be bad too? Let's assume they're going to fix aiming next month, would you still be having the same argument?

You can't really strafe in COD. Most gunfights are won by controlling the map and ADS camping like a pro. Come up with a better argument carebear.

You can't really strafe in COD. Most gunfights are won by controlling the map and ADS camping like a pro. Come up with a better argument carebear.

Let's just go back to 2 days ago. Was anybody asking for an increase in strafe speed? Was anybody saying "This strafe speed is bad? Nobody was complaining about the strafing speed and CCP decided to change it.. People may have liked it, but nobody was asking for it.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. CCP just broke it. They won't break it if they change it back.

I'm not saying that aiming is bad so strafing should be bad too. Strafing wasn't bad!!! I had no problems with aiming until 1.2 with the increase with strafing speed. Not to mention the 'balance' they did with the SR. If they fixed aiming without changing strafing speed, no one would be bothered by the strafing speed.

So basically you're ignoring the points that this is a strong buff to Shield tankers, a minor if not major nerf to armor tankers (depending on layout), a buff to anyone running splash weapons (Godlock comes to mind), or even just the pure aesthetics of some guy hoping left and right firing away.

It also totally borks CQC in that it becomes a complete guessing game when coupled with the hit detection that's still being worked on. And, as I said, it ignores the fact that CCP has decided to put balance more on the backburner in an attempt to hammer out basic mechanics that have yet to be nailed down. This introduces an imbalance to things that are already imbalanced, and that's the primary issue, for me.

It's a very random and out of the blue design change that was yet again never even hinted at by CCP, instead it was just dropped into our laps.

CCP hates scout suits. Only thing left for them was their faster strafing speed. Now its all equal! Yay, scouts are worthless, low hp assault suits!

Lost all credibility when you called quake a bad game. Clearly have no idea what a competative fps should be.

For all the whiners on the forum there are many times more who love the changes, the game was clunky, people cried for them to fix it, they have.

Adapt or leave. Simples.

Why not suggest that scouts need more movement speed?

Why? You havent brought anything to the table that disputes my logic other than trolling. Far as Im concerned, Ive already won.

Lost all credibility when you called quake a bad game. Clearly have no idea what a competative fps should be.

For all the whiners on the forum there are many times more who love the changes, the game was clunky, people cried for them to fix it, they have.

Adapt or leave. Simples.

I suggest you look up the term "power creep". Is it better for the games health to nerf one thing, or buff everything?

Excuse me for having an opinion. I'm staying if you have a problem with that then I'm sorry. I know what a competitive fps is and should be. They haven't fixed this game. If CCP fixed this game's "clunkiness" because of people crying for them, then this game would be perfect. I have adapted, and it's bad.

But then again, your opinion is always right.

Strafing speed was never an issue

Clearly not just my opinion, the fact that a 15 year old game is still being played competively should be enough.

I said in my opinion the game is bad!
So that can't be used to say "Quake was like this, so it's fine if Dust is like this"

There are plenty of old games that are played competitively. Don't get too hyped up about it.

Com'on people... The real issue isn't the strafe speeds it's the twitchy unnatural movement. I tried shooting an amarr yesterday that was dodging around looking like Barry Sanders 2.0. Lighter suits should be able to strafe at high speeds and change directions more quickly. Heavier suits should be a little slower and change directions more sluggishly. It's simple physics and would make the game feel so much more natural. I'm guessing they could use the movement speed as some sort of tuning for movement "responsiveness". I hope a dev reads this...

Strafe speed doesn't bother me, that's fine.

It's hopping left and right in the teleport shuffle that irks me. They added the stamina delay when you stop running, they should add a small stamina cost if you go from one direction immediately to the other. If you're out of stamina, you will move at a reduced speed instead of max.

Either that, or add slight deceleration when you stop moving in one direction, and give them just a brief moment needed to accelerate back in the other direction.

Solves teleporting, still lets people strafe in combat, and adds more player skill by tying it to stamina.