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Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:24:00 -
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Do ALL armor skills complex mods require level 5 skill. When the only one that requires lvl 5 skill for shields is the shield extenders. On top of that they now have an op(imo) shield mod that completely negates the use of shield rechargers and requires absolutely no skill to use the complex (???? wut??/)
It is getting tiresome of seeing how blatantly obvious it is you favor shields and still supply us with armor skills, why not just get rid of them? or do you need fodder for the shields? I mean wtf is this logic here, on top of all this you have a long broken mechanic with the shield recharge delays that will SOONtm be adressed in 5 years.
p.s I know this is the millionth complaint thread on this today.. but remember I started it off asking a serious question of why does all complex armor require lvl 5. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
28
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:27:00 -
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Wut? There is obviously a bug with the new shield mods.
Complex Extenders, Complex Recharges, Complex Regulators all require lvl 5 in a skill.
Not really sure what you are saying... but if your complaint is regarding the new mods then it is justified. It will be fixed soonTM. |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
390
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:28:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Wut? There is obviously a bug with the new shield mods.
Complex Extenders, Complex Recharges, Complex Regulators are all shield mods, and they all require lvl 5 in there respective skills.
Not really sure what you are saying... but if your complaint is regarding the new mods then it is justified. It will be fixed soonTM.
rechargers and regulators are lvl 4 |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5596
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:28:00 -
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The new Regulators are supposed to reduce shield hp significantly as well. |
ER-Bullitt
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
28
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:29:00 -
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Were they changed?
Last time I checked you needed lvl 5 shield regulation for Complex Regulators, same with Rechargers. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1586
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The new Regulators are supposed to reduce shield hp significantly as well.
Regulators? Do you mean energizers?
A few percent off base shield HP translates to <10 HP lost. That's not 'significantly'. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1048
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Posted - 2013.07.02 22:34:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Do ALL armor skills complex mods require level 5 skill. When the only one that requires lvl 5 skill for shields is the shield extenders. On top of that they now have an op(imo) shield mod that completely negates the use of shield rechargers and requires absolutely no skill to use the complex (???? wut??/)
It is getting tiresome of seeing how blatantly obvious it is you favor shields and still supply us with armor skills, why not just get rid of them? or do you need fodder for the shields? I mean wtf is this logic here, on top of all this you have a long broken mechanic with the shield recharge delays that will SOONtm be adressed in 5 years.
p.s I know this is the millionth complaint thread on this today.. but remember I started it off asking a serious question of why does all complex armor require lvl 5.
The math shows the new shield mod does buff, but it not OP. I'll link the thread with the math:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=91101&find=unread |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
392
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:25:00 -
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ER-Bullitt wrote:Were they changed?
Last time I checked you needed lvl 5 shield regulation for Complex Regulators, same with Rechargers.
Been that way for a long time. |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
392
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:26:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The new Regulators are supposed to reduce shield hp significantly as well.
At most they take away 10 or so hp, that is not significant. What is however is the 60% recharge rate bonus with no skill requirement. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
20
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The new Regulators are supposed to reduce shield hp significantly as well.
im sorry but 6% to a cal logi come on really just come oooon breaking my heart  |
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Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
258
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:30:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:Do ALL armor skills complex mods require level 5 skill. When the only one that requires lvl 5 skill for shields is the shield extenders. On top of that they now have an op(imo) shield mod that completely negates the use of shield rechargers and requires absolutely no skill to use the complex (???? wut??/)
It is getting tiresome of seeing how blatantly obvious it is you favor shields and still supply us with armor skills, why not just get rid of them? or do you need fodder for the shields? I mean wtf is this logic here, on top of all this you have a long broken mechanic with the shield recharge delays that will SOONtm be adressed in 5 years.
p.s I know this is the millionth complaint thread on this today.. but remember I started it off asking a serious question of why does all complex armor require lvl 5.
I mean why are you complaining armor shield so what some people use shields, some armor, some shield and armor. With triple sp coming up how difficult would it be to get a lvl 5 shield skill... It's not difficult to cross breed really and weapon damage can still hit through everything pretty well... just don't see the reason to complain for dropsuiters who can use either of these modules. |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:30:00 -
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The dam things should effect extenders h p that will balance it out. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
258
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:30:00 -
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How about using flux grenades they completely **** shields i mean just completely **** them. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
258
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Posted - 2013.07.02 23:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The new Regulators are supposed to reduce shield hp significantly as well.
-6 is not a lot if u have 400 shield u are only loosing 24 shield in order to jump from something like 20 shield per second to around 32. |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
393
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Posted - 2013.07.03 03:49:00 -
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So , does nobody know what the reason is for all shield complex mods other than shield extenders needing only lvl 4 is?
How on earth is there not floods of complaints on this alone pre energizers o.0 |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
398
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:07:00 -
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guess not |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:14:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:So , does nobody know what the reason is for all shield complex mods other than shield extenders needing only lvl 4 is?
How on earth is there not floods of complaints on this alone pre energizers o.0
You only have two modules for Armor - plates and repairers.
For shields, you have three - extenders, rechargers, and regulators. And now energizers, but your point is about pre-energizers.
So, it takes the same amount of SP to reach Lvl5 plates/repairers as it does to reach Lvl 5 extenders & Lvl 4 regulators/rechargers. This is one way to justify why complex regulators/rechargers are available at Lvl 4.
Of course, some people don't use regulators/rechargers at all. And some people don't skill armor plates to 5 either. However, I would say that extenders are only truly useful when you have Lvl 5 (at least for the proto Cal Logi which everyone complains about). |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
398
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:12:00 -
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Sana Rayya wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:So , does nobody know what the reason is for all shield complex mods other than shield extenders needing only lvl 4 is?
How on earth is there not floods of complaints on this alone pre energizers o.0 You only have two modules for Armor - plates and repairers. For shields, you have three - extenders, rechargers, and regulators. And now energizers, but your point is about pre-energizers. So, it takes the same amount of SP to reach Lvl5 plates/repairers as it does to reach Lvl 5 extenders & Lvl 4 regulators/rechargers. This is one way to justify why complex regulators/rechargers are available at Lvl 4. Of course, some people don't use regulators/rechargers at all. And some people don't skill armor plates to 5 either. However, I would say that extenders are only truly useful when you have Lvl 5 (at least for the proto Cal Logi which everyone complains about).
I can see some logic in that , however they still remain the same and now armor has 4 complex mods , shields 4 complex mods.
All armor require lvl 5 , only 1 shield requires lvl 5. The energizers still no skill ( I assume will be fixed, but to lvl 5 or lvl 4? |
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