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Decimel
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.02 19:48:00 -
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Currently have 1.6mill SP and all have it as been invested in to Armour and Shield Upgrades as well as Shield Extension which is currently sitting on level 3. I can afford 4 but 5 is a way off.
With the super week coming up I'd thought of pushing on to Caldari Logi 3 to get at least a middle of the range suit.
In terms of fittings and skills, could any of you perhaps tell me the best items to go for? Ideally things I could achieve in the next couple of weeks. This is excluding a weapon as I realise that will take a good bit longer. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.02 20:33:00 -
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Complex shield extenders are a good investment, especially with the Caldari logi bonus, so you might want to save SP for that.
You might also want look i to the core-skills like engineering and elentronics (the skills that give you extra CPU & PG) You would need these later on!
Are you planning to actually play a logi? There is a nice guide for this somewhere in this section of the forum: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=79304&find=unread |
Decimel
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.02 20:51:00 -
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RKKR wrote:Complex shield extenders are a good investment, especially with the Caldari logi bonus, so you might want to save SP for that. You might also want look i to the core-skills like engineering and elentronics (the skills that give you extra CPU & PG) You would need these later on! Are you planning to actually play a logi? There is a nice guide for this somewhere in this section of the forum: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=79304&find=unread
Sounds like good advice on the extender issue. Especially with the triple xp week coming!
But yeah I'm thinking of going full time logi. Caldari seemed like a good option, I don't know to much about minmatar but I don't like the look of the suits to much lol. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1581
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:34:00 -
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Complex shield extenders are the single best module you could ask for. I recommend getting those ASAP and then stacking them. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
267
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Posted - 2013.07.03 02:36:00 -
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Decimel wrote:RKKR wrote:Complex shield extenders are a good investment, especially with the Caldari logi bonus, so you might want to save SP for that. You might also want look i to the core-skills like engineering and elentronics (the skills that give you extra CPU & PG) You would need these later on! Are you planning to actually play a logi? There is a nice guide for this somewhere in this section of the forum: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=79304&find=unread Sounds like good advice on the extender issue. Especially with the triple xp week coming! But yeah I'm thinking of going full time logi. Caldari seemed like a good option, I don't know to much about minmatar but I don't like the look of the suits to much lol. Given your stated desired playstyle, priorities in order IMO:
- Logi III for the C/1 suit. It is great. - Drop Uplinks I - Shield extension V for complex shield extenders - Nanocircuitry III for K-2 nanohives and 50% injector (the latter only used for squad mates; otherwise not worth the extra isk) - Assault Rifle Operation III - you want to run a Gek (unless you have a non-AR weapon of choice); as a Caldari logi, you are a frontline logi as opposed to a Gallente who I would classify as more of a complete rear support logi; your extra HP allows you to be right there next to your assaults, and the lack of a 4th equipment slot means you have to make tough choices. - Repair Tool Operation III (before nanocircuitry if you have a heavy that you run with on a regular basis); you want to run the BDR-2 or BDR-8 as expense and fittings allow.
FITS: You want to get to a point where you can run the following on a regular basis and stay ISK positive before you move into proto gear. A lot of your responsibility is staying alive, so don't rush into the fray solo and lose a bunch of suits: equipment is expensive.
Dropsuit fitting basics -
Logistics C/1 Dropsuit 3x Complex Shield Extenders 2x Basic Armor Plates 1x Gek-38 Assault Rifle 1x Grenade-of-choice (I prefer Packed AV; try to get M1 grenades if you prefer standard grenades)
Equipment Option 1 - K-2 Nanohive / BDR-2 Repair Tool / Nanite Injector Equipment Option 3 - K-2 Nanohive / Drop Uplink / Nanite Injector Equipment Option 2 - K-2 Nanohive /BDR-2 Repair Tool / Drop Uplink
Opt1: Your 'classic' logi build. You can revive fallen comrades, repair them, resupply them, and get them back into the fight. This is a good way to run if you prefer to stay off guns. Use cover, stay with your unit, and keep people alive and supplied.
Opt2: Combat medic build. You're on your guns 90% of the time, have nanohives for personal and squad resupply, drop uplinks to farm WP and dictate areas of engagement where you want friendlies to spawn in to support you, and an injector to pick up buddies. Works best with a shield tanking assault squad where everybody has personal armor repair and does not rely too much on armor to survive.
Opt3: My personal advanced fit of choice; a hybrid of the above. I find Drop Uplinks more useful because an injector doesn't help the guy who got blown up by a grenade - which is more often the probable cause of death if I am repping someone - and there are more people running injectors now that will get to the revive before you. Great for farming WP for orbitals as well. You can run and gun and back off to rep people.
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Beyond that, you're getting pretty niche. Remote Explosives are a niche kind of thing that is a playstyle preference; go for it if you want to try it; it makes for some great funny kills but IMO the positioning and setup of an ambush takes too long for a support logi when seconds count. Proximity mines I don't really recommend at this stage because 2x Packed AV will do the same job on standard LAVs and non-proto Proxy's won't do fuckall for Logi LAVs. Active scanners.. meh, leave it to the scouts. You should be with your squad not finding the enemy. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
267
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Posted - 2013.07.03 02:39:00 -
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Oh... so yeah, other skills. Any of the "fitting" skills like electronics you should be training last. If you need more CPU, train for CPU. I know it sounds backwards for anyone who has played EVE, but that's the smarter way to go in this game. Basically work your way up and get the skills you need so you can fit what I listed, and then try upgrading modules and working on support skills.
Beyond that, I would say grind out to a proto weapon with Proficiency III and THEN go for your proto suit pretty quickly if you plan to get into competitive corps. Or the other way around. Doesn't really matter; I prefer to have a bigger gun on a cheaper suit. Just don't spend too long trying to maximize support skills... basically after you can fit what I listed, work on your proto weapon and suit. It's the best bang for your buck at that point and increasing core skills will just incrimentally make your end-game suit better. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
135
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Posted - 2013.07.03 11:57:00 -
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Going on what Rogatien Merc said, which I generally agree with, my personal preference for low slots are mix and match, currently checking out the ferroscale basic plates for no speed reduction allowing me to get out of trouble slightly faster or get into the action slightly earlier. Other things I put on there include the shield regen thing, militia/basic stamina mods etc.
Weapon wise, I'm using ADV weapons rather than proto. Compared to the increased fitting requirements, the bonus to damage isn't worth it on my ADV suit, which also has a lower survivability compared to proto suits anyway. While I already have AR at 5 and saving up for proficiency skills, I'm still using the GLU Tactical AR/Burst AR/GEK AR. In particular the TAC AR's damage per shot is fairly close to the Duvolle TAR (75 vs 78) anyway.
Equipment wise, it depends on the game mode and map, but my general fit is: Drop uplink (I have a BPO) Remote Explosives Repairer/Needle/Nanohive
If not running RE's (especially in Ambush/OMS), I normally go for uplinks/Nano/Repairer. However, RE's are basically my thing since I use them a lot even in non-objective maps to lay traps for enemies as they try to run in to finish me off.
For skills, you can't go wrong with Nanocircuitry since this gives you better nanohives AND needle. Previously needles were bugged but from the 1.2 update, they seem to be fixed again so may start using them more regularly.
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
153
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:01:00 -
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I just realized the slot count for the C-Logi...
*hits head against window for multiple hours*
What was CCP thinking?! D: |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
278
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Posted - 2013.07.03 13:58:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:I just realized the slot count for the C-Logi...
*hits head against window for multiple hours*
What was CCP thinking?! D: Gal, Cal, and Min all get 12 slots including equipment. /shrug ... we are personally tankier at the expense of an equipment slot (means we're not reviving, not repairing, or not drop uplinking) |
Decimel
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 14:10:00 -
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Some totally sound advice guys, thanks!
At the moment my skills are basically
Dropsuit Upgrades II Armour & Shield Upgrades V Shield Extension IV Dropsuit Core Upgrades 1 Electronics II Engineering I
Suit Command I Caldari Medium I
It gives me around 1.85million skill points in total.
With the triple XP week coming up I I think will use the time to finish the shield extension skills and then push on to Caldari Logi 3 before working on nanocircutiry, drop uplink and repair tool 3.
Gun will come after all that.
Now to find a corp :) |
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Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:08:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Artificer Ghost wrote:I just realized the slot count for the C-Logi...
*hits head against window for multiple hours*
What was CCP thinking?! D: Gal, Cal, and Min all get 12 slots including equipment. /shrug ... we are personally tankier at the expense of an equipment slot (means we're not reviving, not repairing, or not drop uplinking)
NINE hi+low slots. Plus the tanking bonus. In exchange for slightly lower sprint duration than other proto logis, and 3 equipment slots instead of 4. Nine slots.
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Medium_Dropsuits
OP it looks like you'll be skilled for the perfect caldari logi setup right around the time CCP nerfs it to the ground. |
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