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Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
240
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:46:00 -
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Real Talk... Actual numbers -
Proto Cal Logi: 4x complex shield extenders 1x AUR Complex recharger (level III in recharger skill, max other shield skills):
588 Sh HP / 29.16 hp/sec recharge
Replacing recharger with complex energizer (not AUR... yaaaayyyy):
574 Sh HP / 32.00 hp/sec recharge
The module costs me 14hp - less than 1x round of SMG/AR survivability - and pays for itself in HP gained (extra 2.84hp/sec) after roughly 5 seconds. After that 5 seconds, I have officially been "Buffed" by CCP.
CONCLUSION: ... not the Earth Shattering buff that I thought it was when I initially saw the stats, and while the secondary effect of this module *IS* a slight and unnecessary buff to shield tanked Caldari Logis, the *PRIMARY* effect of this module should be seen on shield tanking assaults where this module can stack on role bonuses, making them more suited for their frontline role.. so this is a step in the right direction as far as balancing Logis with Assaults, but just leaves Armor further behind.
RECOMMENDATION: ... un- **** solo armor tanking kthx. armor tankers *DO* enjoy more benefit from logistics, but this is overshadowed given current game design focused on run-and-gun instant battles and a lack of game modes promoting team play for the majority of the player base resulting in armor tanked individual mercenaries being at a disadvantage in the final analysis. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.07.02 17:49:00 -
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Wow Merc, why are you so smart? You should get a job with CCP!
(doh! forgot to switch accounts)  |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:00:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Wow Merc, why are you so smart? You should get a job with CCP! (doh! forgot to switch accounts)
Lol 2 likes for you |
danny12343331
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
92
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:20:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Real Talk... Actual numbers -
Proto Cal Logi: 4x complex shield extenders 1x AUR Complex recharger (level III in recharger skill, max other shield skills):
588 Sh HP / 29.16 hp/sec recharge
Replacing recharger with complex energizer (not AUR... yaaaayyyy):
574 Sh HP / 32.00 hp/sec recharge
The module costs me 14hp - less than 1x round of SMG/AR survivability - and pays for itself in HP gained (extra 2.84hp/sec) after roughly 5 seconds. After that 5 seconds, I have officially been "Buffed" by CCP.
CONCLUSION: ... not the Earth Shattering buff that I thought it was when I initially saw the stats, and while the secondary effect of this module *IS* a slight and unnecessary buff to shield tanked Caldari Logis, the *PRIMARY* effect of this module should be seen on shield tanking assaults where this module can stack on role bonuses, making them more suited for their frontline role.. so this is a step in the right direction as far as balancing Logis with Assaults, but just leaves Armor further behind.
RECOMMENDATION: ... un- **** solo armor tanking kthx. armor tankers *DO* enjoy more benefit from logistics, but this is overshadowed given current game design focused on run-and-gun instant battles and a lack of game modes promoting team play for the majority of the player base resulting in armor tanked individual mercenaries being at a disadvantage in the final analysis.
Sadly they don't need any skill to use.... |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught
RISE of LEGION
814
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:23:00 -
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Hmm, I was wondering why people were so whoohoo about Shield Energizers. I haven't got a chance to login yet but people were saying that these were high slots, which take away more shield extenders while the rechargers were in the low slots. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
301
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:25:00 -
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danny12343331 wrote:
Sadly they don't need any skill to use....
The Caldari moto |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:27:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Hmm, I was wondering why people were so whoohoo about Shield Energizers. I haven't got a chance to login yet but people were saying that these were high slots, which take away more shield extenders while the rechargers were in the low slots.
regulators are low slot recharger is high slot |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
249
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:28:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:danny12343331 wrote:
Sadly they don't need any skill to use....
The Caldari moto
heh low blow :-P
feel like the lack of prereqs is an oversight. |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars
Top Men.
35
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:35:00 -
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danny12343331 wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Real Talk... Actual numbers -
Proto Cal Logi: 4x complex shield extenders 1x AUR Complex recharger (level III in recharger skill, max other shield skills):
588 Sh HP / 29.16 hp/sec recharge
Replacing recharger with complex energizer (not AUR... yaaaayyyy):
574 Sh HP / 32.00 hp/sec recharge
The module costs me 14hp - less than 1x round of SMG/AR survivability - and pays for itself in HP gained (extra 2.84hp/sec) after roughly 5 seconds. After that 5 seconds, I have officially been "Buffed" by CCP.
CONCLUSION: ... not the Earth Shattering buff that I thought it was when I initially saw the stats, and while the secondary effect of this module *IS* a slight and unnecessary buff to shield tanked Caldari Logis, the *PRIMARY* effect of this module should be seen on shield tanking assaults where this module can stack on role bonuses, making them more suited for their frontline role.. so this is a step in the right direction as far as balancing Logis with Assaults, but just leaves Armor further behind.
RECOMMENDATION: ... un- **** solo armor tanking kthx. armor tankers *DO* enjoy more benefit from logistics, but this is overshadowed given current game design focused on run-and-gun instant battles and a lack of game modes promoting team play for the majority of the player base resulting in armor tanked individual mercenaries being at a disadvantage in the final analysis. Sadly they don't need any skill to use....
Yeah! What the hell! I bet that's a glitch. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
1154
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Posted - 2013.07.02 18:35:00 -
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I imagine they are supposed to have skill requirements. |
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers
EoN.
135
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:33:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:I imagine they are supposed to have skill requirements.
I imagined that the flaylock pistol was supposed to have PG requirements, but that is still the same. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
1581
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:45:00 -
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The energizer isn't a huge issue in and of itself. It's more that shield tanks are getting something that can be seen as a buff while armour tankers receive plates which are useless.
I don't have much of a problem with the energizer. I feel that it should have skill requirements and the penalty should affect extender HP as well, though. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
86
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:49:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:danny12343331 wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Real Talk... Actual numbers -
Proto Cal Logi: 4x complex shield extenders 1x AUR Complex recharger (level III in recharger skill, max other shield skills):
588 Sh HP / 29.16 hp/sec recharge
Replacing recharger with complex energizer (not AUR... yaaaayyyy):
574 Sh HP / 32.00 hp/sec recharge
The module costs me 14hp - less than 1x round of SMG/AR survivability - and pays for itself in HP gained (extra 2.84hp/sec) after roughly 5 seconds. After that 5 seconds, I have officially been "Buffed" by CCP.
CONCLUSION: ... not the Earth Shattering buff that I thought it was when I initially saw the stats, and while the secondary effect of this module *IS* a slight and unnecessary buff to shield tanked Caldari Logis, the *PRIMARY* effect of this module should be seen on shield tanking assaults where this module can stack on role bonuses, making them more suited for their frontline role.. so this is a step in the right direction as far as balancing Logis with Assaults, but just leaves Armor further behind.
RECOMMENDATION: ... un- **** solo armor tanking kthx. armor tankers *DO* enjoy more benefit from logistics, but this is overshadowed given current game design focused on run-and-gun instant battles and a lack of game modes promoting team play for the majority of the player base resulting in armor tanked individual mercenaries being at a disadvantage in the final analysis. Sadly they don't need any skill to use.... Yeah! What the hell! I bet that's a glitch.
personally having this glitch is a good thing it means that those interested in it can try them out. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
86
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Posted - 2013.07.02 21:51:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The energizer isn't a huge issue in and of itself. It's more that shield tanks are getting something that can be seen as a buff while armour tankers receive plates which are useless.
I don't have much of a problem with the energizer. I feel that it should have skill requirements and the penalty should affect extender HP as well, though.
Agreed also any shield tanker complaining about the energizer shall have their skin melted off with a laser rifle(or tickle beam) |
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