Notice anything in common about the HMG, laser, and ScR? They all increase in damage the longer you hold down the shoot button. Make sense now?

A good Scrambler rifle user can get through a magazine without overheating.
The Assault Scrambler Rifle can get through a clip and a half without overheating.
The laser has crap sights so it's very hard to use. In Beta overheating it really wasn't a problem
The HMG has so many rounds that only a fool would hold the trigger long enough to over heat

Not that big of a deal. Overheating is not that hard to manage.

The SCR has insane damage output without the overheat mechanic.
In fact, it would be exactly like the TAR before the nerf!

Scrambler Rifles
Laser Rifles
Heavy Machine Guns

I mean, lets be real here, why is this Overheat mechanic so stupidly important that it effectively leaves you 100% defenseless inthe eventthat it occurs? If an Assault Rifle is firing, it doesnt spontaneously combust into bad game mechanics halfway through the magazine.

Heres some things you CANNOT do in the event of an overheat:
Sprint
Melee
Reload
Keep Firing
Dip it in water
Switch Weapons
Sacrifice Virgins
Make a Sandwhich
Stay Alive

Heres what you CAN do
Pray
Hope
Cry
Die
Notice how ridiculously slow you actually turn when trying to run
Potentially kill yourself if your health is low enough

So, why is it so important that we're rendered completely useless? Heavy Machine Guns I can kinda understand but lets be real here, the Scrambler Rifle was almost designed for the Amarr Assault suit and thebonus entitledto it, past that it might as well come with a warning label.

Ive seen Scout suits die from using it after falling. Hilarious? Yes. Good design? No.

Its not like Assault Rifles jam from being fired too often, or Sniper Rifles eat the arm of the owner from holding the trigger down too long, so why have this mechanic designed to cripple the user so badly?

Im not asking for the feature (if it could be called that) to be removed, but christ you think sprinting away would at least cool the damned thing off faster or bashing someone inthe head with a red hot heat sink would at the very least cause more damage.

Soooo I dunno. Let us do SOMETHING when these damned things decide to turn on their user. Not like Laser Rifles are overly powerful anyway

[quote=Meeko Fent]
The Laser Rifle overheats in about 2 secs, the exact amount of time it takes to get to an actually damaging level, and in doing so deals 90-100 points of damage to the user

If only it were that low. 125 for basic, 225 for proto and iirc its 175 for advanced.

I use energy weapons. They are just my thing. Here is my opinion on what the energy weapons should do on overheat

Once the animation of the reaction to the overheat is done you should be able to switch weapons, run, etc...

its enough of a problem that you can't use your primary weapon and you take damage. you don't need to be completely defenseless for the whole 5 seconds. Being defenseless for 2 secs and then being forced to rely on your sidearm is enough of a penalty.

at the very least let me run after the initial overheat animation is finished.

Playing favorites towards the AR is a bad thing. it's enough that they get an extra skill to be better than every weapon.

you do know theres a quote button right like im not trying to be a **** but its hard not to

It sounds stupid to me to design all these superduper weapon technologies without a fail/shutdown-mechanism to protect the user from taking damage.

I think part of the point of being immortal mercenaries is that we override the safeties and use weapons that no sane mortal would (or could).

We should at least be able to perform basic human movements like melee and running while overheating.

Apparently half of you havenever used a Standard Scrambler Rifle without an Amarr Assault Suit.

Try it out. Charge it up all the way, then see how many shots you can fire in a panic when the game doesnt register that first deadly shot

I can still get out a full clip. Just don't get in a close quarters battle with the SR.

Notice anything in common about the HMG, laser, and ScR? They all increase in damage the longer you hold down the shoot button. Make sense now?

Has heat buildup changed since 1.2? Seems like I overheat more in my ak suit.

1. You probably didn't spam R1 when you were shooting, used the Amarr Assault, or lied.

2. When you OH'd in combat, you didn't wish to change guns, or run?

The idea behind this is that if you let OH'd guns be swapped for a sidearm, the game wouldn't punish OH able gun users for not keeping a range (ScR/LR) or not killing an enemy within 5 Secs (HMG) two weapons are already gimped, and the OH causes the user to both take damage, and not be able to fire ANY of your guns, but you also can't run.

In any combat within 50m, you basically going to die because you can't disengage, you can't fire your sidearm, can't recharge your shields, or any thing.

Let us run away our switch to our crappy pistol.

1-Gallente suit. You're not supposed to spam the R1 when firing a SR. duhhh

2- No, I dealt with the consequences. but now with the new AScR (or hit detection) I barely use it anymore.

Well, this thread isn't about you Who doesn't use the ScR, so be you AR Rambo and GTFO this balance thread.

Use your wildly OP ARs and leave us the faq alone.

Scrambler Rifles
Laser Rifles
Heavy Machine Guns

I mean, lets be real here, why is this Overheat mechanic so stupidly important that it effectively leaves you 100% defenseless inthe eventthat it occurs? If an Assault Rifle is firing, it doesnt spontaneously combust into bad game mechanics halfway through the magazine.

Heres some things you CANNOT do in the event of an overheat:
Sprint
Melee
Reload
Keep Firing
Dip it in water
Switch Weapons
Sacrifice Virgins
Make a Sandwhich
Stay Alive

Heres what you CAN do
Pray
Hope
Cry
Die
Notice how ridiculously slow you actually turn when trying to run
Potentially kill yourself if your health is low enough

So, why is it so important that we're rendered completely useless? Heavy Machine Guns I can kinda understand but lets be real here, the Scrambler Rifle was almost designed for the Amarr Assault suit and thebonus entitledto it, past that it might as well come with a warning label.

Ive seen Scout suits die from using it after falling. Hilarious? Yes. Good design? No.

Its not like Assault Rifles jam from being fired too often, or Sniper Rifles eat the arm of the owner from holding the trigger down too long, so why have this mechanic designed to cripple the user so badly?

Im not asking for the feature (if it could be called that) to be removed, but christ you think sprinting away would at least cool the damned thing off faster or bashing someone inthe head with a red hot heat sink would at the very least cause more damage.

Soooo I dunno. Let us do SOMETHING when these damned things decide to turn on their user. Not like Laser Rifles are overly powerful anyway

Well, this thread isn't about you Who doesn't use the ScR, so be you AR Rambo and GTFO this balance thread.

Use your wildly OP ARs and leave us the faq alone.