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Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:11:00 -
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I need to know when or if I can spend my SP now or are players wanting these new suits forced to wait until they arrive?
Also, will the laser and HMG be un nerfed?
This information is important in my SP allocation.
If the heavy suits will not be arriving or if the laser and HMG will not be unnerfed, I would like to know so I can go ahead and put my SP in some medium suit with AR or save them.
Or, will a respect be given when or if these suits arrive of these weapons become un nerfed?
I would like to start playing again and be able to use my SP. It's not easy running militia only loadouts because there will be no respecs, these suits are not being delivered and weapon specs may change. It would take way too much time to save up the SP to reach proto level and so I save my SP. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:35:00 -
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Eno Raef wrote:Also, HMG be un nerfed?
Hmg actually got a damage buff, the range is short, but it is supposed to be a close quarters powerhouse
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KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:37:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Eno Raef wrote:Also, HMG be un nerfed? Hmg actually got a damage buff, the range is short, but it is supposed to be a close quarters powerhouse
HMGs arent CQC SMGs are. And for that matter why does an SMG do more dmg per shot?
CCP will tell you we just got the Commandon't so stop whining for new heavy suits.... |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:39:00 -
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I would expect to see them sometime around November probably. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:40:00 -
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InB4SOONGäó? |
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:44:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Eno Raef wrote:Also, HMG be un nerfed? Hmg actually got a damage buff, the range is short, but it is supposed to be a close quarters powerhouse HMGs arent CQC SMGs are. And for that matter why does an SMG do more dmg per shot? CCP will tell you we just got the Commandon't so stop whining for new heavy suits....
CCP seems to think of the HMG as a CQC weapon as the already low range was nerfed since Chromosome. HMG's didn't get a true damage buff. All weapons received a buff in response to CCP's hp boost. The HMG was returned to near what it had in Chromosome. It was nerfed in the beginning of Uprising. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:44:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:InB4SOONGäó?
Your out of One-Arm too, why? Spying, like me? :3 |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.07.01 17:44:00 -
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Don't look at me I have no idea when. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.07.01 18:59:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Rynoceros wrote:InB4SOONGäó? Your out of One-Arm too, why? Spying, like me? :3
They collapsed. No leadership. Thought about looking into another corp, but Instant Battles are working better than PC, which is just as meaningless and more taxing. |
Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:02:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Eno Raef wrote:Also, HMG be un nerfed? Hmg actually got a damage buff, the range is short, but it is supposed to be a close quarters powerhouse HMGs arent CQC SMGs are. And for that matter why does an SMG do more dmg per shot? CCP will tell you we just got the Commandon't so stop whining for new heavy suits.... SMGs are a sidearm with a 80 bullet mag.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:05:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Don't look at me I have no idea when.
Who's looking at you bro? I'll mess them up! |
XeroTheBigBoss
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:05:00 -
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Eno Raef wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Eno Raef wrote:Also, HMG be un nerfed? Hmg actually got a damage buff, the range is short, but it is supposed to be a close quarters powerhouse HMGs arent CQC SMGs are. And for that matter why does an SMG do more dmg per shot? CCP will tell you we just got the Commandon't so stop whining for new heavy suits.... CCP seems to think of the HMG as a CQC weapon as the already low range was nerfed since Chromosome. HMG's didn't get a true damage buff. All weapons received a buff in response to CCP's hp boost. The HMG was returned to near what it had in Chromosome. It was largely nerfed in the beginning of Uprising while other weapons remained relatively unchanged.
That HMG is pretty beast. I see heavies like WhaTTaguy and Spongly that manage to kill **** with it. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:06:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Rynoceros wrote:InB4SOONGäó? Your out of One-Arm too, why? Spying, like me? :3 They collapsed. No leadership. Thought about looking into another corp, but Instant Battles are working better than PC, which is just as meaningless and more taxing.
Did everybody disband? Or just the top guys? |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:19:00 -
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Hopefully, CCP will focus on eliminating bugs and making game mechanics solid before they even think about adding new content. People begging for more content are not helping the matter.
Seems some folks still need to be clued in on the state of completition to the game.
1. Core mechanics such as aiming, hit detection and functionality of weapons are in serious need of fixing. Fixes we have been waiting for since uprising and some from chromosome.
2. Lag in PC, and FW. Lag on some maps in particular
3. Terrain smoothness and bugs.
3. Vehicle glitches, there are clearly malfunctions in hit detection and passenger resetting.
4. Weapon balancing
We seriously nwed to focus on this stuff before we can add content. Yet here we are begging for new suits, new weapons new districts, and the game is barely functioning.
Anyway, thanks for contributing your thoughts, however counterproductive. |
Luk Manag
of Terror
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:28:00 -
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The Boundless HMG has some decent knockdown power. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:28:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Rynoceros wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Rynoceros wrote:InB4SOONGäó? Your out of One-Arm too, why? Spying, like me? :3 They collapsed. No leadership. Thought about looking into another corp, but Instant Battles are working better than PC, which is just as meaningless and more taxing. Did everybody disband? Or just the top guys?
Shut down all operations Dust-side. A few started The Other Arm, or something. Most of the final communications were from some childish 420Blazed dipshit.
We'll always have #TEAMMILITIA. |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.01 19:32:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Eno Raef wrote:Also, HMG be un nerfed? Hmg actually got a damage buff, the range is short, but it is supposed to be a close quarters powerhouse HMGs arent CQC SMGs are. And for that matter why does an SMG do more dmg per shot? CCP will tell you we just got the Commandon't so stop whining for new heavy suits.... SMGs are a sidearm with a 80 bullet mag.
yes thank you for that wonderful insight |
Cody Sietz
Tritan's Onslaught
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:03:00 -
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KOBLAKA1 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:KOBLAKA1 wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Eno Raef wrote:Also, HMG be un nerfed? Hmg actually got a damage buff, the range is short, but it is supposed to be a close quarters powerhouse HMGs arent CQC SMGs are. And for that matter why does an SMG do more dmg per shot? CCP will tell you we just got the Commandon't so stop whining for new heavy suits.... SMGs are a sidearm with a 80 bullet mag. yes thank you for that wonderful insight Edit: in case you didnt know SMG = SUB machine gun (pistol caliber rounds) HMG = HEAVY Machine Gun. But CCP is weird so smaller must equal more powerful
How many times have you won a heads up dual with a smg vs a HMG? |
KOBLAKA1
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.07.01 20:31:00 -
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50% actually i roll SMG with my FG fit and only Toxin at that. It usually depends on how many armor plates the other HEavy is using and who gets the drop on who. |
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:30:00 -
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CCP, here's an easier set of questions;
Do players, including myself have to sit on SP until
1). nerfed weapons are unnerfed, or the weapons are balanced for good, and...
2). new heavy suits (commando not included as it seems very unimpressive) are finally released?
3). If I put SP in the Amar basic prototype, will that also allow me to move onto the new prototype heavy suits without spending more SP in a different basic suit such as Minmatar, Caldari, or Gallente?
Or,...
4). Will players be offered respecs when either of the above or other patches to broken mechanics are introduced?
Personally, I would like to have this information so I can play Dust without sitting on SP, expecting a respec after the above introductions (if they occur) or will there be no more respecs which will also influence my SP allocations.
An official CCP, announcement would be much appreciated. |
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Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:16:00 -
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Eno Raef wrote:CCP, here's an easier set of questions;
Do players, including myself have to sit on SP until
1). nerfed weapons are unnerfed, or the weapons are balanced for good, and...
2). new heavy suits (commando not included as it seems very unimpressive) are finally released?
3). If I put SP in the Amar basic prototype, will that also allow me to move onto the new prototype heavy suits without spending more SP in a different basic suit such as Minmatar, Caldari, or Gallente?
Or,...
4). Will players be offered respecs when either of the above or other patches to broken mechanics are introduced?
Based on all information to date:
1) Yes, you have to sit on SP.
2) Yes, you have to sit on SP.
3) No, you'll need to start over with investing SP into the new racial suit.
4) Unlikely that we'll get respecs of any sort under any circumstances.
For all these reasons, I wouldn't go past Advanced Basic Amarr Heavy. The extra low slot isn't going to be worth the SP/isk, and you can proto the important things on the Advanced Heavy suit.
Save that SP or spend it on other things you think are fun.
ED: Removed a line about CCP saying "NO MOAR EVAR" to respecs. Instead, they said "One time only" when they did the last one. Still, very unlikely. |
Eno Raef
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.07.02 03:09:00 -
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Any official comment, CCP? That's what would be truly helpful. |
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