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          Delta 749 
          Kestrel Reconnaissance
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          ..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys | 
      
      
      
          
          meri jin 
          Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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          Delta 749 wrote:..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys  
 
  It's not so bad unless you have two afks in your HAV sitting, having no way to kick them :). Happend to me. | 
      
      
      
          
          Delta 749 
          Kestrel Reconnaissance
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          meri jin wrote:Delta 749 wrote:..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys  It's not so bad unless you have two afks in your HAV sitting, having no way to kick them :). Happend to me.   
  Id have parked it among some reds and let them deal with it but Im kinda vindictive sometimes and isk profit margins be damned | 
      
      
      
          
          Khal V'Rani 
          Nephilim Initiative
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 10:50:00 -
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          Do RE's work on blueberries? I'm not spec'ed into them but if they do I will be... | 
      
      
      
          
          DumpsterJuice 
          Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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          Delta 749 wrote:..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys  
  No problem, just jump into a murder taxi and go nuts on the enemy team, more kills for you! | 
      
      
      
          
          Banning Hammer 
          Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:00:00 -
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          That's nothing ...Try 8 people AFKing in the MCC, 4 people sniping, and 1 LAV murder taxi.. and just me and another guy trying to win the match. THAT is painful .   | 
      
      
      
          
          Matticus Monk 
          Ordus Trismegistus
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:04:00 -
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          Were those guys AFKing?!?! 
  Damn, I just thought they were all lined up to watch my epic swan dives out of the MCC!! For some odd reason I kept dying and having to respawn that match.... | 
      
      
      
          
          Monocle Cognac 
          Universal Spec Ops
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:12:00 -
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          Delta 749 wrote:..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys  
 
  So you decided to join the party then?
  I like to imagine all the flaylock shots I put on you killed you over and over again. Screw idle kick, let us team kill these jerks in the MCC. AFK should cost them ISK.
  Die in the dirt like the rest of us. To AFK because everyone else is doing it is sh!t. Leave the match and find one where people are playing if it bothers you that much. Also, if this is being done to make a point about "idle kick"...well...think about it. It is causing the problem you are trying to solve.
  Sorry guys. I normally don't come on here to b!tch, but to be in the same match on the same team as the OP, then to see him here posting about it has got me steamed.
  The solution to fixing a broken game is not to break it more, especially when it still benefits you at a cost to other players who still want to play. CCP could care less about your silent protest. Maybe they can let you skill into picket signs and peaceful dissent. Damn hippies. Buy some passives, and come back in a few months to see if this is still for you. Honestly, a plummeting player count would get the message across best. | 
      
      
      
          
          Delta 749 
          Kestrel Reconnaissance
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:14:00 -
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          Monocle Cognac wrote:Delta 749 wrote:..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys  So you decided to join the party then? I like to imagine all the flaylock shots I put on you killed you over and over again. Screw idle kick, let us team kill these jerks in the MCC. AFK should cost them ISK. Die in the dirt like the rest of us. To AFK because everyone else is doing it is sh!t. Leave the match and find one where people are playing if it bothers you that much. Also, if this is being done to make a point about "idle kick"...well...think about it. It is causing the problem you are trying to solve. Sorry guys. I normally don't come on here to b!tch, but to be in the same match on the same team as the OP, then to see him here posting about it has got me steamed. The solution to fixing a broken game is not to break it more, especially when it still benefits you at a cost to other players who still want to play. CCP could care less about your silent protest. Maybe they can let you skill into picket signs and peaceful dissent. Damn hippies. Buy some passives, and come back in a few months to see if this is still for you.  
 
  Hey man, when in Rome Besides, explain how sitting in the MCC with us taking pot shots is really any different from AFKing yourself Not like you were out there fighting the good fight and capturing objectives either | 
      
      
      
          
          LT SHANKS 
          Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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          When I get into these type of situations, I hop into my best proto fitting, slap and shoot a few guys in the MCC to get their attention, and jump out of the MCC without pressing X. I repeat this process at least 4 more times to let the others know that my deaths are their fault, because they refused to move and help, I took the liberty to off a clone myself instead of having been offed by the opposing team.
  What does this accomplish? Absolutely nothing, but I sure do have a lot of ISK to waste... | 
      
      
      
          
          Monocle Cognac 
          Universal Spec Ops
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          I relieved stress for 15 seconds, then jumped out to be redlined repeatedly. I like to imagine a glitch might let me take you out sometimes.
   We were winning that match until everyone crapped out on us. | 
      
      
      
          
          Delta 749 
          Kestrel Reconnaissance
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:19:00 -
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          Monocle Cognac wrote:I relieved stress for 15 seconds, then jumped out to be redlined repeatedly. I like to imagine a glitch might let me take you out sometimes.
   We were winning that match until everyone crapped out on us.  
  I know, thats what makes it so frustrating and led to my first ever bitching about AFKers thread We had more nodes, had the enemy contained, and then all of a sudden ******* nothing Its demoralizing so I said **** it and decided to wait out the last few minutes then I switched over to Tekken
  Of course actually getting a match in that is a pain in the ass, everyone just wants to fight guys who they think they can beat and I keep getting kicked out of public rooms and at this time of day ranked matches would have me fighting asians and europeans and I dont want to deal with the lag | 
      
      
      
          
          Allah's Snackbar 
          Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:22:00 -
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          CCP can't afford to lose AFKers.
  If its not worth logging on to not play they will never log on again. | 
      
      
      
          
          Monocle Cognac 
          Universal Spec Ops
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          Well, sorry to call you out. I guess we were both p!ssed and handle it different ways. Why I don't agree with your methods, I feel your pain. Like I said, I am not really here to cause drama. Personally, I feel that AFK is something we as players can help stop by example. Who knows though. Could be wishful thinking. 
  See you on the battlefield. | 
      
      
      
          
          Banning Hammer 
          Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:26:00 -
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          Allah's Snackbar wrote:CCP can't afford to lose AFKers.
  If its not worth logging on to not play they will never log on again.  
  Kitten that !! I will rather play with 2,000 fully active players, than 5,000 in which half AFK, or snipes in the red line. This is a game, played or go away. | 
      
      
      
          
          Delta 749 
          Kestrel Reconnaissance
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:27:00 -
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          Dont even worry about it, I dont take these sort of things personally You were angry at the situation and wanted to vent a bit its cool | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:35:00 -
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          OP is mad he didn't get an invitation to the MCC Party. | 
      
      
      
          
          Allah's Snackbar 
          Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:37:00 -
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          Banning Hammer wrote:Allah's Snackbar wrote:CCP can't afford to lose AFKers.
  If its not worth logging on to not play they will never log on again.  Kitten that !! I will rather play with 2,000 fully active players, than 5,000 in which half AFK, or snipes in the red line. This is a game, play it or go away.  2,000 would be death for this game. | 
      
      
      
          
          Banning Hammer 
          Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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          Allah's Snackbar wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Allah's Snackbar wrote:CCP can't afford to lose AFKers.
  If its not worth logging on to not play they will never log on again.  Kitten that !! I will rather play with 2,000 fully active players, than 5,000 in which half AFK, or snipes in the red line. This is a game, play it or go away.  2,000 would be death for this game.  
  Half of the player base AFKing, is going to be the death of this game...mind my words. Few months from now, is just going to be about 2000 people AFKing in the MCC every battle. So i rather take my chances with fully active players. | 
      
      
      
          
          BMSTUBBY 
          KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:43:00 -
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          Broken, boring game = AFK best game mode this game has.
  Thumbs up CCP on a AAA FPS
 
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          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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        Posted - 2013.07.01 11:46:00 -
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          Banning Hammer wrote: Half of the player base AFKing, is going to be the death of this game...mind my words. Few months from now, is just going to be about 2000 people AFKing in the MCC every battle. So i rather take my chances with fully active players.
  
 
  That would actually be halarious.... 
  Devs see 2000 players logged in all the time, check the records and see that 99% of all matches have no kills or deaths, just a couple captures. | 
      
      
      
          
          Khal V'Rani 
          Nephilim Initiative
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          I would equate afkers as party crashers myself. They show up, don't bring any supplies or food or drinks, smokes, music, etc. But they bring their mooch friends who bring nothing as well. They were not invited. No one wants them there. And they can't even be useful. Which makes them lesser than a tool because, you know, tools are useful. Afkers are not. They don't even stick around to help clean up the mess they make. Cuz they're all "waaa waaa I'm leaving when xxxx game comes out" or "waaa waaa if this isn't fixed..." This applies to the people who do it all the time or for whole matches. | 
      
      
      
          
          Nebra Tene 
          Roaming Blades
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          Delta 749 wrote:..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys   Oh ya, because them putting a rubber band on the controller or flicking the analogue stick every now and then would take sooo much effort.
  The problem is not the ability to idle, the problem is players are rewarded equally or better (as they don't lose anything during the match either.) for not doing anything than if they were out there actively playing.
  Bet if they made it absolutely impossible to idle anywhere, people would still find a way to exploit this. As long as you're rewarded without having to do anything, people will do these kind of things. | 
      
      
      
          
          Eris Ernaga 
          Super Nerds
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          Ha a lot of these same people tell me this is New Eden and then they cry about MCC campers. If the NPC corporations are only making us deploy to the battle but not enforcing that we fight in it then this is New Eden and can I earn free isk and SP for doing nothing. This is New Eden right guys?
  Plus this is how a average battle goes outside of the MCC...
  Team starts off disorganized not moving as a team to objectives I jump inside a badly fit militia tank down the road i jump out the tank and try and cross a few meters to get to objective B  I get sniped by a red line sniper -262k I respawn at a drop uplink and run a few meters where I think am pretty safe to get forge gunned from the no where -262k I rage and eventually go back to camping the MCC I decide to drive around in a free lav and score several kills and annoy several team mates Win
  Point is if I am going to skill in to something Protoype I want to be able to use that gear but I mostly just end up getting one shotted from across the map or getting a horrible team thus I MCC camp and gain sp and save isk nor do I have to play in Dust's horribly bad and unbalanced game.
  Also remember guys just because you are placed on team A don't think for a second that these people will cover you. There out for them selves and will decide to not cover your proto suit even if they are running a militia if it means saving them selves. Stop calling these people you don't know allies because they are not on your team or here to help you.
  This is New Eden Eris Ernaga | 
      
      
      
          
          steadyhand amarr 
          Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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          A key reason why some of us myself included stopped playing as the u can't play a multiplayer game if noone else is playing. The fact ccp won't even acknowledge this problem in any shape or form. And in fact proabaly would turn around and say it's all part of the sandbox really pisses me off.
  Dust is not a sandbox is a gated playground where all the swings are broken and the one swings that works u can't use because all the other kids are just standing in the way not using it | 
      
      
      
          
          Knightshade Belladonna 
          G.R.A.V.E
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          Winter is Coming! 
  Continue thy valiant efforts of afk grind. Just don't be sad when it is useless one day. 
  I love hearing that 3/4 a team was afk , fire is catching. | 
      
      
      
          
          Alaika Arbosa 
          Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:OP is mad he didn't get an invitation to the MCC Party. 
  If only AFK people could get a text to majority vote, we could vote kick all the try hards.  
  Who is more of a "tryhard"?
  The ones who actually want to play the game or the ones so obsessed with "not falling behind" that they'll AFK a game they don't want to play? | 
      
      
      
          
          DUST Fiend 
          OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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          CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come. 
  Welcome to DUST 514 | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come. 
  Welcome to DUST 514  
  Lol, so many 
  OMG AFK cloak Stealth Bomber threads on the EVE forums.
 
  Its pretty funny, these threads remind me of all the "AFK SB" threads and supposed fixes on that board. | 
      
      
      
          
          Knightshade Belladonna 
          G.R.A.V.E
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          DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come. 
  Welcome to DUST 514  
 
  Where do I go in eve where all I have to do is hit ONE button 2 times, to make as much money as the guy who flies his titan/mothership/carrier into a 10/10 site using tactics and risking all. There are lot's of easy routes , but not that easy.. even scamming requires more work. The market requires more work.. fkn mining requires more work.. where is this isk faucet in New Eden you speak of? | 
      
      
      
          
          Alaika Arbosa 
          Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come. 
  Welcome to DUST 514  Lol, so many  OMG AFK cloak Stealth Bomber threads on the EVE forums. Its pretty funny, these threads remind me of all the "AFK SB" threads and supposed fixes on that board.  
  No, there is a legitimate counter to AFK cloaking (it's not my fault that it is so statistically improbable to bump into the AFK cloaker that you're more likely to win the lottery everyday for the rest of your life).
  Currently, we have so such legitimate counter to MCC AFKers.
  If we had 100% Friendly Fire from all sources in all game modes then your argument would be valid. | 
      
      
      
          
          Banning Hammer 
          Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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          DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come. 
  Welcome to DUST 514  
  You see, that is what is wrong... How can NOT playing the game, be a legitimate tactic when PLAYING the game....? 
  Can you imagine a F1 car wining a race by NOT racing? or a Football team wining a match without kicking the ball ? | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          Alaika Arbosa wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come. 
  Welcome to DUST 514  Lol, so many  OMG AFK cloak Stealth Bomber threads on the EVE forums. Its pretty funny, these threads remind me of all the "AFK SB" threads and supposed fixes on that board.  No, there is a legitimate counter to AFK cloaking (it's not my fault that it is so statistically improbable to bump into the AFK cloaker that you're more likely to win the lottery everyday for the rest of your life). Currently, we have so such legitimate counter to MCC AFKers. If we had 100% Friendly Fire from all sources in all game modes then your argument would be valid.  
 
  There is a legitimate tactic for killing people who are AFK in the MCC also. Be on the red team and capture Null cannons and shoot down the MCC.. Its actually ALOT more probable then decloaking an AFK bomber. | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          Alaika Arbosa wrote: If we had 100% Friendly Fire from all sources in all game modes then your argument would be valid.  
  Lol, you would regret that decision. I don't know how many times I have had a deep desire to shoot all the blues on my team. 
  I can see the forums flooded with "OMG TK TK TK. STOP TK!" | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          Knightshade Belladonna wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come. 
  Welcome to DUST 514  Where do I go in eve where all I have to do is hit ONE button 2 times, to make as much money as the guy who flies his titan/mothership/carrier into a 10/10 site using tactics and risking all. There are lot's of easy routes , but not that easy.. even scamming requires more work. The market requires more work.. fkn mining requires more work.. where is this isk faucet in New Eden you speak of?  
 
  Jita Market | 
      
      
      
          
          Alaika Arbosa 
          Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: If we had 100% Friendly Fire from all sources in all game modes then your argument would be valid.  Lol, you would regret that decision. I don't know how many times I have had a deep desire to shoot all the blues on my team.  I can see the forums flooded with "OMG TK TK TK. STOP TK!"   
  No, actually I wouldn't regret that decision at all.
  As far as your "legitimate tactic" is concerned, pray tell, just how do I swap sides mid match to watch the MCC formerly known as my own teams go down in a ball of flames with the MCC AFKers aboard? | 
      
      
      
          
          soulreaper73 
          PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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          Im AFG! Thus, I afk the proper way. I just do not even bother to log in. I will check out the patch to see if it fixes things. If it does great. If it does not, then meh, I will just go find something else to do at that point. I have always wanted to learn how to knit, speak Swahili, run a four minute mile, etc. | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          Alaika Arbosa wrote: No, actually I wouldn't regret that decision at all.
  As far as your "legitimate tactic" is concerned, pray tell, just how do I swap sides mid match to watch the MCC formerly known as my own teams go down in a ball of flames with the MCC AFKers aboard?
  
  Well, you can try quitting the match and requeing and getting back into the match as a Red. This is still better odds then poping a AFK cloaking Bomber in a Off Path safe spot. | 
      
      
      
          
          DUST Fiend 
          OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:Well, you can try quitting the match and requeing and getting back into the match as a Red. This is still better odds then poping a AFK cloaking Bomber in a Off Path safe spot.    So how much ISK and active SP does a AFK bomber earn in EVE, out of curiosity. | 
      
      
      
          
          Alaika Arbosa 
          Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: No, actually I wouldn't regret that decision at all.
  As far as your "legitimate tactic" is concerned, pray tell, just how do I swap sides mid match to watch the MCC formerly known as my own teams go down in a ball of flames with the MCC AFKers aboard?
  Well, you can try quitting the match and requeing and getting back into the match as a Red. This is still better odds then poping a AFK cloaking Bomber in a Off Path safe spot.   
  So you're in agreement that we have no such valid tactic for dealing with MCC AFKers?
  I thought you would. | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          DUST Fiend wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Well, you can try quitting the match and requeing and getting back into the match as a Red. This is still better odds then poping a AFK cloaking Bomber in a Off Path safe spot.   So how much ISK and active SP does a AFK bomber earn in EVE, out of curiosity.   
  Depends on the market in the area. If you AFk Bomber in an enemy territory so that they cannot mine and you AFK mine in a nearby zone, then you can make a big haul based on decreased supply in the area of whatever minerals you were AFK mining. | 
      
      
      
          
          DUST Fiend 
          OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:Depends on the market in the area. If you AFk Bomber in an enemy territory so that they cannot mine and you AFK mine in a nearby zone, then you can make a big haul based on decreased supply in the area of whatever minerals you were AFK mining.    So can you sign in, click join match, and make a profit safely? | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          DUST Fiend wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Depends on the market in the area. If you AFk Bomber in an enemy territory so that they cannot mine and you AFK mine in a nearby zone, then you can make a big haul based on decreased supply in the area of whatever minerals you were AFK mining.   So can you sign in, click join match, and make a profit safely?   
  Pretty much, depending on if you have a good corp or not. They do all the area patrolling and you just sit back and rake in the cash. | 
      
      
      
          
          Crash Monster 
          Snipers Anonymous
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          Allah's Snackbar wrote:CCP can't afford to lose AFKers.
  If its not worth logging on to not play they will never log on again.  
  Come on, I know many people don't care either way, but please spare us this type of doublespeak nonsense. | 
      
      
      
          
          Muscaat 514 
          EVE Markets
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          Such a shame CCP fixed the "bug" where you could take out friendlies clustered together in the MCC by overcooking a grenade. Sad times. | 
      
      
      
          
          Knightshade Belladonna 
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come. 
  Welcome to DUST 514  Where do I go in eve where all I have to do is hit ONE button 2 times, to make as much money as the guy who flies his titan/mothership/carrier into a 10/10 site using tactics and risking all. There are lot's of easy routes , but not that easy.. even scamming requires more work. The market requires more work.. fkn mining requires more work.. where is this isk faucet in New Eden you speak of?  Jita Market  
 
  LOL , I played the jita market for 2 years bud. Have you ever for one day? That is an absurd statement. If you were going to use market , even though I already said the market reqquires more of you.. which it does, no ifs ands or buts about it , you would have been better off saying some lo sec system that pirates frequent flipping mid size and small ships with pvp oriented gear on the market.. having way less competition to compete with. But NO, you say Jita Market.. lols the definition of market pvp | 
      
      
      
          
          DUST Fiend 
          OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:Pretty much, depending on if you have a good corp or not. They do all the area patrolling and you just sit back and rake in the cash.    So all it takes to make a quick profit in EVE is to pay for a subscription, skill up into bombers, join a good active corp, and play in low / null sec space, actively watching your computer for that opportune moment to strike.
  They should probably just put MCCs in EVE so we can all just sit around right from the get go | 
      
      
      
          
          sammus420 
          Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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          This would never have been an issue if you guys didn't ***** about all the team killing I did. I was doing my team a favor by inspiring people in the red line to go out into battle, or by blasting people out of both the MCC and the game. But noooooooooo. You guys got mad and made them fix team killing, and now we're stuck with the AFKers. | 
      
      
      
          
          Medic 1879 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          Ground based AFK'ers are the best I feel compelled to attempt to push them either into battle or beyond the redline with a LAV I realise that makes me less useful than the AFK'ers as I am costing clones but its just too funny to stop. Listening to people rage when they come back and wonder how they were killed or when you get silence after depositing them in front of a confused looking reddot then a few minutes later you get they left the battle message. | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          Knightshade Belladonna wrote: LOL , I played the jita market for 2 years bud. Have you ever for one day? That is an absurd statement. If you were going to use market , even though I already said the market reqquires more of you.. which it does, no ifs ands or buts about it , you would have been better off saying some lo sec system that pirates frequent flipping mid size and small ships with pvp oriented gear on the market.. having way less competition to compete with. But NO, you say Jita Market.. lols the definition of market pvp
  * and also to point out, you got to have something to make something in the markets  
  Not really, you just put a contract on the market and then every once in awhile advertise the contract as a good deal. Like buying 2 plex for like 1 billion, and you make it like 1 million and some idiot clicked it and you made about 999 million profit in about 30 seconds.
  There is an idiot born every minute | 
      
      
      
          
          Knightshade Belladonna 
          G.R.A.V.E
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote: LOL , I played the jita market for 2 years bud. Have you ever for one day? That is an absurd statement. If you were going to use market , even though I already said the market reqquires more of you.. which it does, no ifs ands or buts about it , you would have been better off saying some lo sec system that pirates frequent flipping mid size and small ships with pvp oriented gear on the market.. having way less competition to compete with. But NO, you say Jita Market.. lols the definition of market pvp
  * and also to point out, you got to have something to make something in the markets  Not really, you just put a contract on the market and then every once in awhile advertise the contract as a good deal. Like buying 2 plex for like 1 billion, and you make it like 1 million and some idiot clicked it and you made about 999 million profit in about 30 seconds. There is an idiot born every minute  
 
  I'm done trying, good day! I said GOOD DAY SIR! | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          DUST Fiend wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Pretty much, depending on if you have a good corp or not. They do all the area patrolling and you just sit back and rake in the cash.   So all it takes to make a quick profit in EVE is to pay for a subscription, skill up into bombers, join a good active corp, and play in low / null sec space, actively watching your computer for that opportune moment to strike. They should probably just put MCCs in EVE so we can all just sit around right from the get go   
  Well, in Dust you can only make like 1 million an hour. In EVE, you could probably make about 60 million an hour with about the same amount of effort if your corp owns good territory. | 
      
      
      
          
          DUST Fiend 
          OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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          Daedric Lothar wrote:Well, in Dust you can only make like 1 million an hour. In EVE, you could probably make about 60 million an hour with about the same amount of effort if your corp owns good territory.    At this exact point in time the actual numbers are irrelevant, you have to put in contrast with what we can actually spend that cash on. There are things to do and buy in EVE.
  Not so much in DUST | 
      
      
      
          
          Daedric Lothar 
          Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
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          DUST Fiend wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Well, in Dust you can only make like 1 million an hour. In EVE, you could probably make about 60 million an hour with about the same amount of effort if your corp owns good territory.   At this exact point in time the actual numbers are irrelevant, you have to put in contrast with what we can actually spend that cash on. There are things to do and buy in EVE. Not so much in DUST   
  Touche, and with markup, who knows how much Dust $ will be worth. | 
      
      
      
          
          stlcarlos989 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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          Delta 749 wrote:..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys  
  I had a match not too long ago with with 7 afk on my side but I was in a 6-man squad and we ended up cloning out the other team just before our MCC armor was out.
 
 
 meri jin wrote:It's not so bad unless you have two afks in your HAV sitting, having no way to kick them :). Happend to me.   
  If you have a teammate willing to sacrifice a life, ramming a militia LAV into the back of your tank will kill the top gunner and ramming into the side will kill the side gunner. | 
      
      
      
          
          Crash Monster 
          Snipers Anonymous
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          Medic 1879 wrote:Ground based AFK'ers are the best I feel compelled to attempt to push them either into battle or beyond the redline with a LAV I realise that makes me less useful than the AFK'ers as I am costing clones but its just too funny to stop. Listening to people rage when they come back and wonder how they were killed or when you get silence after depositing them in front of a confused looking reddot then a few minutes later you get they left the battle message.  
  People thinking this is a great idea might want to check to see if the closest objective is under contention before pushing people out of the redline area. I have no idea who but I've had people shoot, push, or stand in my line of sight while I'm in the middle of shooting reds hacking our objective -- and close enough to it to take AR fire back from those reds.
  Go get the idiots hiding out in the depths of the redline area instead of those playing to win.
  EDIT: Though, it's also possible those folks were just left over mad because I donated a few bullets to their brain pans when they were previously reds. | 
      
      
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