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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:34:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come.
Welcome to DUST 514 Lol, so many OMG AFK cloak Stealth Bomber threads on the EVE forums. Its pretty funny, these threads remind me of all the "AFK SB" threads and supposed fixes on that board.
No, there is a legitimate counter to AFK cloaking (it's not my fault that it is so statistically improbable to bump into the AFK cloaker that you're more likely to win the lottery everyday for the rest of your life).
Currently, we have so such legitimate counter to MCC AFKers.
If we had 100% Friendly Fire from all sources in all game modes then your argument would be valid. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:35:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come.
Welcome to DUST 514
You see, that is what is wrong... How can NOT playing the game, be a legitimate tactic when PLAYING the game....?
Can you imagine a F1 car wining a race by NOT racing? or a Football team wining a match without kicking the ball ? |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
785
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:39:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come.
Welcome to DUST 514 Lol, so many OMG AFK cloak Stealth Bomber threads on the EVE forums. Its pretty funny, these threads remind me of all the "AFK SB" threads and supposed fixes on that board. No, there is a legitimate counter to AFK cloaking (it's not my fault that it is so statistically improbable to bump into the AFK cloaker that you're more likely to win the lottery everyday for the rest of your life). Currently, we have so such legitimate counter to MCC AFKers. If we had 100% Friendly Fire from all sources in all game modes then your argument would be valid.
There is a legitimate tactic for killing people who are AFK in the MCC also. Be on the red team and capture Null cannons and shoot down the MCC.. Its actually ALOT more probable then decloaking an AFK bomber. |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
785
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:41:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote: If we had 100% Friendly Fire from all sources in all game modes then your argument would be valid.
Lol, you would regret that decision. I don't know how many times I have had a deep desire to shoot all the blues on my team.
I can see the forums flooded with "OMG TK TK TK. STOP TK!" |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
785
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:41:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come.
Welcome to DUST 514 Where do I go in eve where all I have to do is hit ONE button 2 times, to make as much money as the guy who flies his titan/mothership/carrier into a 10/10 site using tactics and risking all. There are lot's of easy routes , but not that easy.. even scamming requires more work. The market requires more work.. fkn mining requires more work.. where is this isk faucet in New Eden you speak of?
Jita Market |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
459
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:44:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: If we had 100% Friendly Fire from all sources in all game modes then your argument would be valid. Lol, you would regret that decision. I don't know how many times I have had a deep desire to shoot all the blues on my team. I can see the forums flooded with "OMG TK TK TK. STOP TK!"
No, actually I wouldn't regret that decision at all.
As far as your "legitimate tactic" is concerned, pray tell, just how do I swap sides mid match to watch the MCC formerly known as my own teams go down in a ball of flames with the MCC AFKers aboard? |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
78
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:49:00 -
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Im AFG! Thus, I afk the proper way. I just do not even bother to log in. I will check out the patch to see if it fixes things. If it does great. If it does not, then meh, I will just go find something else to do at that point. I have always wanted to learn how to knit, speak Swahili, run a four minute mile, etc. |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
785
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:52:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote: No, actually I wouldn't regret that decision at all.
As far as your "legitimate tactic" is concerned, pray tell, just how do I swap sides mid match to watch the MCC formerly known as my own teams go down in a ball of flames with the MCC AFKers aboard?
Well, you can try quitting the match and requeing and getting back into the match as a Red. This is still better odds then poping a AFK cloaking Bomber in a Off Path safe spot. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4221
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:56:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Well, you can try quitting the match and requeing and getting back into the match as a Red. This is still better odds then poping a AFK cloaking Bomber in a Off Path safe spot. So how much ISK and active SP does a AFK bomber earn in EVE, out of curiosity. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
459
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:56:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote: No, actually I wouldn't regret that decision at all.
As far as your "legitimate tactic" is concerned, pray tell, just how do I swap sides mid match to watch the MCC formerly known as my own teams go down in a ball of flames with the MCC AFKers aboard?
Well, you can try quitting the match and requeing and getting back into the match as a Red. This is still better odds then poping a AFK cloaking Bomber in a Off Path safe spot.
So you're in agreement that we have no such valid tactic for dealing with MCC AFKers?
I thought you would. |
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Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
786
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:06:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Well, you can try quitting the match and requeing and getting back into the match as a Red. This is still better odds then poping a AFK cloaking Bomber in a Off Path safe spot. So how much ISK and active SP does a AFK bomber earn in EVE, out of curiosity.
Depends on the market in the area. If you AFk Bomber in an enemy territory so that they cannot mine and you AFK mine in a nearby zone, then you can make a big haul based on decreased supply in the area of whatever minerals you were AFK mining. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4221
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:07:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Depends on the market in the area. If you AFk Bomber in an enemy territory so that they cannot mine and you AFK mine in a nearby zone, then you can make a big haul based on decreased supply in the area of whatever minerals you were AFK mining. So can you sign in, click join match, and make a profit safely? |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
786
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Depends on the market in the area. If you AFk Bomber in an enemy territory so that they cannot mine and you AFK mine in a nearby zone, then you can make a big haul based on decreased supply in the area of whatever minerals you were AFK mining. So can you sign in, click join match, and make a profit safely?
Pretty much, depending on if you have a good corp or not. They do all the area patrolling and you just sit back and rake in the cash. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
875
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:15:00 -
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Allah's Snackbar wrote:CCP can't afford to lose AFKers.
If its not worth logging on to not play they will never log on again.
Come on, I know many people don't care either way, but please spare us this type of doublespeak nonsense. |
Muscaat 514
EVE Markets
16
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:16:00 -
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Such a shame CCP fixed the "bug" where you could take out friendlies clustered together in the MCC by overcooking a grenade. Sad times. |
Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
386
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:18:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:CCP won't fix this anytime soon, as far as we can tell CCP believes this to be a legitimate and fair tactic, one that belongs in the EVE universe and is here to stay for many more months to come.
Welcome to DUST 514 Where do I go in eve where all I have to do is hit ONE button 2 times, to make as much money as the guy who flies his titan/mothership/carrier into a 10/10 site using tactics and risking all. There are lot's of easy routes , but not that easy.. even scamming requires more work. The market requires more work.. fkn mining requires more work.. where is this isk faucet in New Eden you speak of? Jita Market
LOL , I played the jita market for 2 years bud. Have you ever for one day? That is an absurd statement. If you were going to use market , even though I already said the market reqquires more of you.. which it does, no ifs ands or buts about it , you would have been better off saying some lo sec system that pirates frequent flipping mid size and small ships with pvp oriented gear on the market.. having way less competition to compete with. But NO, you say Jita Market.. lols the definition of market pvp |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4223
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:19:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Pretty much, depending on if you have a good corp or not. They do all the area patrolling and you just sit back and rake in the cash. So all it takes to make a quick profit in EVE is to pay for a subscription, skill up into bombers, join a good active corp, and play in low / null sec space, actively watching your computer for that opportune moment to strike.
They should probably just put MCCs in EVE so we can all just sit around right from the get go |
sammus420
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
168
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:25:00 -
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This would never have been an issue if you guys didn't ***** about all the team killing I did. I was doing my team a favor by inspiring people in the red line to go out into battle, or by blasting people out of both the MCC and the game. But noooooooooo. You guys got mad and made them fix team killing, and now we're stuck with the AFKers. |
Medic 1879
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
490
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:25:00 -
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Ground based AFK'ers are the best I feel compelled to attempt to push them either into battle or beyond the redline with a LAV I realise that makes me less useful than the AFK'ers as I am costing clones but its just too funny to stop. Listening to people rage when they come back and wonder how they were killed or when you get silence after depositing them in front of a confused looking reddot then a few minutes later you get they left the battle message. |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
786
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:27:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote: LOL , I played the jita market for 2 years bud. Have you ever for one day? That is an absurd statement. If you were going to use market , even though I already said the market reqquires more of you.. which it does, no ifs ands or buts about it , you would have been better off saying some lo sec system that pirates frequent flipping mid size and small ships with pvp oriented gear on the market.. having way less competition to compete with. But NO, you say Jita Market.. lols the definition of market pvp
* and also to point out, you got to have something to make something in the markets
Not really, you just put a contract on the market and then every once in awhile advertise the contract as a good deal. Like buying 2 plex for like 1 billion, and you make it like 1 million and some idiot clicked it and you made about 999 million profit in about 30 seconds.
There is an idiot born every minute |
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Knightshade Belladonna
G.R.A.V.E
386
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:30:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Knightshade Belladonna wrote: LOL , I played the jita market for 2 years bud. Have you ever for one day? That is an absurd statement. If you were going to use market , even though I already said the market reqquires more of you.. which it does, no ifs ands or buts about it , you would have been better off saying some lo sec system that pirates frequent flipping mid size and small ships with pvp oriented gear on the market.. having way less competition to compete with. But NO, you say Jita Market.. lols the definition of market pvp
* and also to point out, you got to have something to make something in the markets Not really, you just put a contract on the market and then every once in awhile advertise the contract as a good deal. Like buying 2 plex for like 1 billion, and you make it like 1 million and some idiot clicked it and you made about 999 million profit in about 30 seconds. There is an idiot born every minute
I'm done trying, good day! I said GOOD DAY SIR! |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
786
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:30:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Pretty much, depending on if you have a good corp or not. They do all the area patrolling and you just sit back and rake in the cash. So all it takes to make a quick profit in EVE is to pay for a subscription, skill up into bombers, join a good active corp, and play in low / null sec space, actively watching your computer for that opportune moment to strike. They should probably just put MCCs in EVE so we can all just sit around right from the get go
Well, in Dust you can only make like 1 million an hour. In EVE, you could probably make about 60 million an hour with about the same amount of effort if your corp owns good territory. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4223
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:35:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Well, in Dust you can only make like 1 million an hour. In EVE, you could probably make about 60 million an hour with about the same amount of effort if your corp owns good territory. At this exact point in time the actual numbers are irrelevant, you have to put in contrast with what we can actually spend that cash on. There are things to do and buy in EVE.
Not so much in DUST |
Daedric Lothar
Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION
787
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:39:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Well, in Dust you can only make like 1 million an hour. In EVE, you could probably make about 60 million an hour with about the same amount of effort if your corp owns good territory. At this exact point in time the actual numbers are irrelevant, you have to put in contrast with what we can actually spend that cash on. There are things to do and buy in EVE. Not so much in DUST
Touche, and with markup, who knows how much Dust $ will be worth. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
203
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:46:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:..and 3 AFK at the ground spawn, thats a new personal record Having no idle kick in matches is great isnt it guys
I had a match not too long ago with with 7 afk on my side but I was in a 6-man squad and we ended up cloning out the other team just before our MCC armor was out.
meri jin wrote:It's not so bad unless you have two afks in your HAV sitting, having no way to kick them :). Happend to me.
If you have a teammate willing to sacrifice a life, ramming a militia LAV into the back of your tank will kill the top gunner and ramming into the side will kill the side gunner. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
875
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:52:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:Ground based AFK'ers are the best I feel compelled to attempt to push them either into battle or beyond the redline with a LAV I realise that makes me less useful than the AFK'ers as I am costing clones but its just too funny to stop. Listening to people rage when they come back and wonder how they were killed or when you get silence after depositing them in front of a confused looking reddot then a few minutes later you get they left the battle message.
People thinking this is a great idea might want to check to see if the closest objective is under contention before pushing people out of the redline area. I have no idea who but I've had people shoot, push, or stand in my line of sight while I'm in the middle of shooting reds hacking our objective -- and close enough to it to take AR fire back from those reds.
Go get the idiots hiding out in the depths of the redline area instead of those playing to win.
EDIT: Though, it's also possible those folks were just left over mad because I donated a few bullets to their brain pans when they were previously reds. |
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