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hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:19:00 -
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Really, whats the point in spending sp into anything. Some cry baby going to come along and convince CCP to nerf just about everything they don't use. You spec into something based on stat that are present only to have those stat downgrade after you have spent your sp. Then CCP claims no more respec, if CCP changes there mind on stat and respec that weapon, vehicle, drop suit, etc i should be able to respec my skill points. Finding it hard to spend my sp now days because of all the nerfing thats going around, and im not a high sp character. Looking at the player count and it shrinking by the day........ |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
187
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:27:00 -
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Can't go wrong with core passive skills. |
Kiro Justice
Tritan's Onslaught
RISE of LEGION
142
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:30:00 -
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Quit. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
189
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:30:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Can't go wrong with core passive skills.
But not the scanning ones!!! |
hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:31:00 -
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That's a real answer to keep players..... go play dust |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
62
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:33:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:Really, whats the point in spending sp into anything. Some cry baby going to come along and convince CCP to nerf just about everything they don't use. You spec into something based on stat that are present only to have those stat downgrade after you have spent your sp. Then CCP claims no more respec, if CCP changes there mind on stat and respec that weapon, vehicle, drop suit, etc i should be able to respec my skill points. Finding it hard to spend my sp now days because of all the nerfing thats going around, and im not a high sp character. Looking at the player count and it shrinking by the day........
Core Skills... |
hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:33:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Can't go wrong with core passive skills. But not the scanning ones!!!
core skills is a good alternative, but then yo would see op militia suit and gear. lol , I would love to see a thread about that one. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
189
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:36:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Can't go wrong with core passive skills. But not the scanning ones!!! core skills is a good alternative, but then yo would see op militia suit and gear. lol , I would love to see a thread about that one.
heh would be awesome.
But TBQH if you go advanced level into a suit and weapon you really haven't spent "that" much on it. Prof V in a weapon... yeah... that's gonna suck when all of a sudden AR gets nerfed because "combat rifle". |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
1238
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:37:00 -
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Nothing gets past the nerfhammer. Nothing.
Spec into what you find fun. Whether or not it's the FotM shouldn't be a determining factor. My alt uses laser rifles. Fun as hell. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens
EoN.
120
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:40:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:Really, whats the point in spending sp into anything. Some cry baby going to come along and convince CCP to nerf just about everything they don't use. You spec into something based on stat that are present only to have those stat downgrade after you have spent your sp. Then CCP claims no more respec, if CCP changes there mind on stat and respec that weapon, vehicle, drop suit, etc i should be able to respec my skill points. Finding it hard to spend my sp now days because of all the nerfing thats going around, and im not a high sp character. Looking at the player count and it shrinking by the day........
Spotted the stealth whine |
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hamual jackson
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
22
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:42:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:hamual jackson wrote:Really, whats the point in spending sp into anything. Some cry baby going to come along and convince CCP to nerf just about everything they don't use. You spec into something based on stat that are present only to have those stat downgrade after you have spent your sp. Then CCP claims no more respec, if CCP changes there mind on stat and respec that weapon, vehicle, drop suit, etc i should be able to respec my skill points. Finding it hard to spend my sp now days because of all the nerfing thats going around, and im not a high sp character. Looking at the player count and it shrinking by the day........ Spotted the stealth whine
not whineing, asking. got good answers, but your's was useless as you are on in this thread. Go play dust |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
62
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Posted - 2013.07.01 05:43:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:hamual jackson wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Can't go wrong with core passive skills. But not the scanning ones!!! core skills is a good alternative, but then yo would see op militia suit and gear. lol , I would love to see a thread about that one. heh would be awesome. But TBQH if you go advanced level into a suit and weapon you really haven't spent "that" much on it. Prof V in a weapon... yeah... that's gonna suck when all of a sudden AR gets nerfed because "combat rifle".
nice... |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
494
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:06:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Nothing gets past the nerfhammer. Nothing.
Spec into what you find fun. Whether or not it's the FotM shouldn't be a determining factor. My alt uses laser rifles. Fun as hell.
When a better balance is achieved then all the SP spent will be worth it. It may take a while but all weapons will be balanced with their racial brothers. Sidearms to sidearms and lights to lights. We will get there we just need to be patient and provide constant feed back that is constructive. It does work and we have to stick to it. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
543
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:12:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Nothing gets past the nerfhammer. Nothing.
Spec into what you find fun. Whether or not it's the FotM shouldn't be a determining factor. My alt uses laser rifles. Fun as hell. When a better balance is achieved then all the SP spent will be worth it. It may take a while but all weapons will be balanced with their racial brothers. Sidearms to sidearms and lights to lights. We will get there we just need to be patient and provide constant feed back that is constructive. It does work and we have to stick to it.
People will still bitch whether everything is balanced or not. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
360
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:15:00 -
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I can't spec into anything because there isn't enough content to me to choose what I want to spec into.
I pick AR- Its a waste because Gauss rifles will be a separate skill,
I pick Amarr Assault.... to bad Amarr Scouts came out
I skill into Armour Tanks- Well Eff you Harkon We (CCP) just brought out Amarr Tanks! |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens
EoN.
123
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:15:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:dustwaffle wrote:hamual jackson wrote:Really, whats the point in spending sp into anything. Some cry baby going to come along and convince CCP to nerf just about everything they don't use. You spec into something based on stat that are present only to have those stat downgrade after you have spent your sp. Then CCP claims no more respec, if CCP changes there mind on stat and respec that weapon, vehicle, drop suit, etc i should be able to respec my skill points. Finding it hard to spend my sp now days because of all the nerfing thats going around, and im not a high sp character. Looking at the player count and it shrinking by the day........ Spotted the stealth whine not whineing, asking. got good answers, but your's was useless as you are on in this thread. Go play dust
Can't cos I'm at work, so the only recourse is to point at your lack of sense of humour |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2967
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:21:00 -
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The principle reason why CCP won't give any more respecs is that it will have a negative effect on the delicate economy that CCP has plans to merge us into. That and respecs prevent CCP from obtaining proper metrics and data since too many players will spec into the flavor of the month and not enough players speccing into other things thus running the risk of CCP improperly nerfing or buffing weapons. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
494
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:26:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Nothing gets past the nerfhammer. Nothing.
Spec into what you find fun. Whether or not it's the FotM shouldn't be a determining factor. My alt uses laser rifles. Fun as hell. When a better balance is achieved then all the SP spent will be worth it. It may take a while but all weapons will be balanced with their racial brothers. Sidearms to sidearms and lights to lights. We will get there we just need to be patient and provide constant feed back that is constructive. It does work and we have to stick to it. People will still b itch whether everything is balanced or not.
I have no doubt. I don't want balance and neither does anyone else because balance would mean every weapon, suit and module would work the same. We want hard counters to everything, the imbalance is what is fun and without it the game would be so bland it would already be dead.
When I talk about balance I am talking about having the ability to choose a fit that counters what every fit is giving me problems. If I can't kill an AR merc because of the damage the AR puts out then I can go with a LR and be able to engage them out of their range. Heavy guarding a door? A plasma cannon makes short work of heavies.
The point is that we need a diverse set of weapons and modules that give us the flexibility to adapt to the problem. Not only through weapon and skills but through modules and tactics. With balanced weapons new ideas are hard to come by but with a set of weapons that are unbalanced and generally equal we can devise new tactics and doctrines.
When I say unbalanced and generally equal I mean that every weapon has an advantage over another but a flaw when compared to a third or fourth. Nerf and Buff is the circle of life and being nervous about SP placement equals no fun. Put you SP where you want and try to have fun. It is a game, don't worry about the future at the expense of the present. |
Geth Massredux
0uter.Heaven
League of Infamy
412
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:30:00 -
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hamual jackson wrote:Really, whats the point in spending sp into anything. Some cry baby going to come along and convince CCP to nerf just about everything they don't use. You spec into something based on stat that are present only to have those stat downgrade after you have spent your sp. Then CCP claims no more respec, if CCP changes there mind on stat and respec that weapon, vehicle, drop suit, etc i should be able to respec my skill points. Finding it hard to spend my sp now days because of all the nerfing thats going around, and im not a high sp character. Looking at the player count and it shrinking by the day........
Its called find another game. Duhh |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
436
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Posted - 2013.07.01 06:30:00 -
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Even Chess is inherently unbalanced due to White always going first.
Just play the game and spend SP into what you think is cool. |
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Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
181
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Posted - 2013.07.01 07:09:00 -
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sounds like some one got prof V flaylock |
CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2013.07.01 07:13:00 -
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Don't go off stats. Go off of what the intended role is. Things are not always balanced. If you see something is blatantly OP, don't spec into it unless you want to use it for what it is intended to do. |
Xender17
Intrepidus XI
Omega Commission
190
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Posted - 2013.07.01 07:30:00 -
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I chose not to read this thread because if I do... I probably well lose the will to keep playing. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
146
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Posted - 2013.07.01 09:05:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:snip...Spec into what you find fun... Snip
^ This ^ This ^ This ^ |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
122
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Posted - 2013.07.01 10:15:00 -
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Core skills for the win. It's the smartest move until the rest of the racial suits and weapons come out, and these items are balanced....
Or just spec into what you find enjoyable. Always a good idea.
Or take the long view and spec into everything..... talk about commitment....
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2013.07.01 10:19:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Core skills for the win. It's the smartest move until the rest of the racial suits and weapons come out, and these items are balanced....
Or just spec into what you find enjoyable. Always a good idea.
Or take the long view and spec into everything..... talk about commitment....
I going for core skills ... is to many Dropsuits variants that haven't been release yet. I spend some SP on the Adv Assault.. but i won't go any farther to all the Dropsuit variants has been release. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
65
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:16:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:Core skills for the win. It's the smartest move until the rest of the racial suits and weapons come out, and these items are balanced....
Or just spec into what you find enjoyable. Always a good idea.
Or take the long view and spec into everything..... talk about commitment....
I going for core skills ... is to many Dropsuits variants that haven't been release yet. I spend some SP on the Adv Assault.. but i won't go any farther to all the Dropsuit variants has been release.
The only other safe routes would be into modules for example Damage Modifiers, or shields and armor |
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