DUST Search - My mind is blown.

Jaqen Morghalis wrote:

Sure, it looks pretty now, but it'll have it's own forum full of complaints and complainers, just like Dust does now, as did every game before, you'll see.

Don't get too caught up in the hype. Remember how awesome and revolutionary Dust looked way back when? I'm sure many of these same people promoting PS2 were doing the exact same thing for Dust on some other game's forums a couple of years ago, and will probably be doing the same on Planetside's, eventually, as soon as the next big thing is announced.

What you see during beta is not always what you get in the finished product. Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised that I even need to say that to this crowd. You should ALL know this by now, and be managing your expectations accordingly.

(I know this comes off as pretty cynical, but I'm tired off seeing people repeat the same behaviour with every new game that comes out. If I can discourage just one person from creating a "New game X is going to kill this current game" thread in the future, then my effort was not in vain)

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lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 85	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:25:00 - [1] - Quote Played Planetside 2. It's unbelievable how far ahead of DUST it is in terms of everything. Mechanics, gameplay, map design, weapon design, etc.There is no way this game survives with Planetside 2 on the PS4 if DUST even makes it until then.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2935	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:26:00 - [2] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Played Planetside 2. It's unbelievable how far ahead of DUST it is in terms of everything. Mechanics, gameplay, map design, weapon design, etc.There is no way this game survives with Planetside 2 on the PS4 if DUST even makes it until then. Enjoy being sniped all game.
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 85	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:30:00 - [3] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Played Planetside 2. It's unbelievable how far ahead of DUST it is in terms of everything. Mechanics, gameplay, map design, weapon design, etc.There is no way this game survives with Planetside 2 on the PS4 if DUST even makes it until then. Enjoy being sniped all game. Was great. Still think it's a ** game. Just hilarious how much better it is than DUST at being a ** game. The MMOFPS genre honestly should have never been conceived in the first place.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 2121	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:33:00 - [4] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Played Planetside 2. It's unbelievable how far ahead of DUST it is in terms of everything. Mechanics, gameplay, map design, weapon design, etc.There is no way this game survives with Planetside 2 on the PS4 if DUST even makes it until then. Enjoy being sniped all game. Seriously, Planetside 2 is surviving off of making a good first impression on people who play other shooters. As soon as you want anything more than constant TDM out of it, it folds like a card house.
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2940	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:34:00 - [5] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Played Planetside 2. It's unbelievable how far ahead of DUST it is in terms of everything. Mechanics, gameplay, map design, weapon design, etc.There is no way this game survives with Planetside 2 on the PS4 if DUST even makes it until then. Enjoy being sniped all game. Was great. Still think it's a ** game. Just hilarious how much better it is than DUST at being a ** game. The MMOFPS genre honestly should have never been conceived in the first place. Need to combine Dust514 with PS2 to create the perfect crappy game we can all hate on but still play. Conquer land for player corporations in giant open world planets that allow thousands to play at once.
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 266	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:34:00 - [6] - Quote mastercard approves of this post
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 88	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:35:00 - [7] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Played Planetside 2. It's unbelievable how far ahead of DUST it is in terms of everything. Mechanics, gameplay, map design, weapon design, etc.There is no way this game survives with Planetside 2 on the PS4 if DUST even makes it until then. Enjoy being sniped all game. Yeah.. because you don't get sniped in Dust 514 ..But you right, Road kills are far more common in Dust 514 than sniper kills.
InsidiousN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 95	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:39:00 - [8] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Played Planetside 2. It's unbelievable how far ahead of DUST it is in terms of everything. Mechanics, gameplay, map design, weapon design, etc.There is no way this game survives with Planetside 2 on the PS4 if DUST even makes it until then. Enjoy being sniped all game. Was great. Still think it's a ** game. Just hilarious how much better it is than DUST at being a ** game. The MMOFPS genre honestly should have never been conceived in the first place. Need to combine Dust514 with PS2 to create the perfect crappy game we can all hate on but still play. Conquer land for player corporations in giant open world planets that allow thousands to play at once. No one plays DUST.
Sotapopthegrey gay Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:43:00 - [9] - Quote sony a massive company. If sony farted, CCP would of gone deaf.
Kiro Justice Tritan's Onslaught RISE of LEGION 138	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:55:00 - [10] - Quote We knew this already. Ignore Butthurt DUST lovers OP.

Jaqen Morghalis Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 68	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:56:00 - [11] - Quote Sure, it looks pretty now, but it'll have it's own forum full of complaints and complainers, just like Dust does now, as did every game before, you'll see. Don't get too caught up in the hype. Remember how awesome and revolutionary Dust looked way back when? I'm sure many of these same people promoting PS2 were doing the exact same thing for Dust on some other game's forums a couple of years ago, and will probably be doing the same on Planetside's, eventually, as soon as the next big thing is announced. What you see during beta is not always what you get in the finished product. Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised that I even need to say that to this crowd. You should ALL know this by now, and be managing your expectations accordingly. (I know this comes off as pretty cynical, but I'm tired off seeing people repeat the same behaviour with every new game that comes out. If I can discourage just one person from creating a "New game X is going to kill this current game" thread in the future, then my effort was not in vain)
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 90	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:04:00 - [12] - Quote Jaqen Morghalis wrote: Don't get too caught up in the hype. Remember how awesome and revolutionary Dust looked way back when? DUST never looked good. But neither just PS2. It's just amazing how much better quality the game is when they're sort of advertised to be similar games. Jaqen Morghalis wrote: What you see during beta is not always what you get in the finished product. Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised that I even need to say that to this crowd. You should ALL know this by now, and be managing your expectations accordingly. Everything is WAY beyond beta.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 351	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:09:00 - [13] - Quote played it and it sucks, and is seriously pay to win. not sure what you guys like about this game =/
Exardor Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:10:00 - [14] - Quote Tried Planetside 2 - got face stomped - face stomped other players with entirely hiding and sniping - left disappointed. The open world is cool... but there was no goal for me. Dust has at least SP. (Sad, but true) Last but not least: Lets take a steam look at some numbers: http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&appid=218230&from=0 Remember kids: thats just via steam, but it confirms my feelings about the game.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 351	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:13:00 - [15] - Quote the open world is it's selling point imo....it's only selling point. if dust can get their I can't see any reason at all to ever play PS2. but to each their own
lllIIIlI IIIlIl Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 90	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:15:00 - [16] - Quote calisk galern wrote: played it and it sucks, and is seriously pay to win. not sure what you guys like about this game =/ Oh, I agree, it's nowhere near good. It's just miles ahead of DUST in terms of succeeding at being a bad games.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 351	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:17:00 - [17] - Quote eh I guess, I'll take the free crappy game over the pay to win crappy game though. dust has more support and updates as well, if they stick to the once a month content patch plan, though that's yet to be seen.
Jaqen Morghalis Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance 69	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:23:00 - [18] - Quote lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Jaqen Morghalis wrote: Don't get too caught up in the hype. Remember how awesome and revolutionary Dust looked way back when? DUST never looked good. But neither just PS2. It's just amazing how much better quality the game is when they're sort of advertised to be similar games. Jaqen Morghalis wrote: What you see during beta is not always what you get in the finished product. Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised that I even need to say that to this crowd. You should ALL know this by now, and be managing your expectations accordingly. Everything is WAY beyond beta. I think you missed my point. I was not comparing PS2 beta to Dust beta, I was attempting to draw a parallel between the two games, at comparative stages in their development. People hyped Dust pre-release on other forums, and now complain about it post-release. People are now hyping PS2 here pre-release... Do you honestly think that it'll be any different? Because it won't. People WILL find things to complain about in PS2. People are ALREADY finding things to complain about, you just either don't see them, or chose to ignore or marginalize the issues, because you're distracted by all the pretty new shininess being dangled in front of your eyes. It looks soooooooo pretty! It MUST be better!
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 687	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:26:00 - [19] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: lllIIIlI IIIlIl wrote: Played Planetside 2. It's unbelievable how far ahead of DUST it is in terms of everything. Mechanics, gameplay, map design, weapon design, etc.There is no way this game survives with Planetside 2 on the PS4 if DUST even makes it until then. Enjoy being sniped all game. in 9 hours of gameplay i only got sniper twice unless in 2 hours of tanks & planes i got sniper count which i think would be very small still because they don't do a lot to vehicles and im not sure if some sniper toke those useless shots during that whole time. seen the amount of vehicles in DUST trailer then playing dust and seeing no to little vehicles while in Planet side2 theres tons of vehicles and they are balanced for their cost and functionality so people actually use them and they have vehicle locks!!!! OMFG why don't we have it, we have been asking for it long enough.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 92	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:35:00 - [20] - Quote Exardor wrote: Tried Planetside 2 - got face stomped - face stomped other players with entirely hiding and sniping - left disappointed. The open world is cool... but there was no goal for me. Dust has at least SP. (Sad, but true) Last but not least: Lets take a steam look at some numbers: http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&appid=218230&from=0 Remember kids: thats just via steam, but it confirms my feelings about the game. Actually, i was shock too when i saw that graphics ...But from what i hear PS2 is pushing P2W very hard, even harder than Dust. I don't think people is buying into the P2W model anymore.... "Hint" CCP.

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 687	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:36:00 - [21] - Quote Jaqen Morghalis wrote: Sure, it looks pretty now, but it'll have it's own forum full of complaints and complainers, just like Dust does now, as did every game before, you'll see. Don't get too caught up in the hype. Remember how awesome and revolutionary Dust looked way back when? I'm sure many of these same people promoting PS2 were doing the exact same thing for Dust on some other game's forums a couple of years ago, and will probably be doing the same on Planetside's, eventually, as soon as the next big thing is announced. What you see during beta is not always what you get in the finished product. Quite frankly, I'm a little surprised that I even need to say that to this crowd. You should ALL know this by now, and be managing your expectations accordingly. (I know this comes off as pretty cynical, but I'm tired off seeing people repeat the same behaviour with every new game that comes out. If I can discourage just one person from creating a "New game X is going to kill this current game" thread in the future, then my effort was not in vain) i had high hopes for dust for uprising. i had no problems with graphics and liked the most of the core gameplay and when uprising the came the only good thing was the graphics which was never a wow factor and still not but broke the core mechanics with the surprise twist some stealthed in to basically everything and it was clear they didn't even test fully cough tankscough everything and just throw it at Sony to approve and to us with the release.
FATPrincess - XOXO Shining Flame Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:41:00 - [22] - Quote What I really like about PS2 is the open world. That alone is enough, imo, to be worth of the name MMO. It's something that Dust hasn't been able to do in 2 years. -XOXO
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 687	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:51:00 - [23] - Quote calisk galern wrote: played it and it sucks, and is seriously pay to win. not sure what you guys like about this game =/ well i did try it out and well the weapons are the only really useable things you buy with money and once you unlocked them you have them so yes in that area it is pay to win because the amount of time to earn those guns is a pretty long but its not to far off of dust P2W with booster/aur weapons. but after playing a while its more about the add ons to weapons/suits/vehicles that make the big difference which can not buy bought with real world money. so meh P2W maybe but once you drop like 60$ there is not much more to buy but cool skins and colors maybe boosters but dust has those to. i think dust's booster are much more needed at the start then planet side 2. this is my comparision on the F2P with P2W in them.
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 76	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:54:00 - [24] - Quote I honestly wish have my fellow DustDummies new how hard it is to code some of the core game play for a fps. you would probably be even madder when you found out this goes for CCP the wheel is not broken CUT AND PASTE Sony will help you find the code to cut.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 351	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:55:00 - [25] - Quote ladwar wrote: calisk galern wrote: played it and it sucks, and is seriously pay to win. not sure what you guys like about this game =/ well i did try it out and well the weapons are the only really useable things you buy with money and once you unlocked them you have them so yes in that area it is pay to win because the amount of time to earn those guns is a pretty long but its not to far off of dust P2W with booster/aur weapons. but after playing a while its more about the add ons to weapons/suits/vehicles that make the big difference which can not buy bought with real world money. so meh P2W maybe but once you drop like 60$ there is not much more to buy but cool skins and colors maybe boosters but dust has those to. i think dust's booster are much more needed at the start then planet side 2. this is my comparision on the F2P with P2W in them. if there was proper match making you wouldn't need boosters since you'd be fitted against people of equal skill point, or at least be in the general area of the other opponents.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F 351	Posted - 2013.06.30 15:56:00 - [26] - Quote DoomLead wrote: I honestly wish have my fellow DustDummies new how hard it is to code some of the core game play for a fps. you would probably be even madder when you found out this goes for CCP the wheel is not broken CUT AND PASTE Sony will help you find the code to cut. what?

GM Hercules Game Masters C C P Alliance 485	Posted - 2013.06.30 16:02:00 - [27] - Quote Please note that this is the DUST 514 forum, as such please focus your discussion only about DUST 514. This thread is now locked. Thanks.



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