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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:35:00 -
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The comparison is made between the Gallente and the Caldari. The reason for this comparison is because, two my understanding, these two suits are supposed to be mirror images of eachother. Such as their shield and armor HP: Caldari = 180/90 and the Gallente = 90/180.
The Caldari L-1 slot lay out it two high and one low while the Gallente slot layout is just two low...? Why?
FOR THE SAKE OF BALANCE THE GALLENTE L-1 NEEDS TO BE GIVEN ONE HIGH SLOT.
Either that or take one away from the Caldari.
There is no reason what-so-ever why the Gallente L-1 should be gimped in this way, it has the least module slots out of any of the suits.
If their is a sound reason behind the slot layout for the Gallente L-1, I would really like to hear it CCP, because from where I am standing it just looks like a gross over sight. Since uprising I have come across MANY of these little mistakes, such as proto plasma cannons doing less damage to shields than swam launcher, the slot lay out for the Gallente scout G-1/series, the Caldari logi having 9 slots while the Gallente logi only has eight, the fact that there is no BPOs for the assault other than Caldari, and the same for scout/Gallente, logistics/Minmatar. I have posted about this stuff on the forums but you guys never acknowledge anything, and the stuff just continues to remain broken. You know, I have been here since september of last year, and I have put up with a lot of crap from this game, but you know what is going to end up making me quit? You guys ignoring/blowing off stuff like this, when it is things that could so easily/quickly be fixed, like slot lay outs and damage stats (and should never have been alwoed to go out to the public the way it was in the first place).
Please CCP I implore you, acknowledge this stuff. My patience concerning these things is beginning to wear EXTREAMLY thin. |
Eskel Bondfree
DUST University Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:03:00 -
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I agree, the Gallente logi looks kind of crappy on the basic level, especially when compared to the Minmatar one which has 2 more module slots. I guess CCP thought the 25% fitting bonus of the Gallente would be so powerful that the G-1 should not be allowed more than 2 slots. Which doesn't make much sense, because the basic suit will mostly be used by players with low SP anyway, so they don't get much out of the suit bonus anyway.
As for the proto suits, Gallente and Minmatar both have only 8 module slots, because they get that 4th equipment slot that the Caldari doesn't have. This was certainly not an by oversight CPP but intended. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL EoN.
2
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:20:00 -
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The Caldari Logi 1 suit only has 2 equipment slots, whereas the Gallente Logi 1 suit has 3, making the total slot count even between the two. By comparison the Minmatar Logi 1 suit is more powerful slotwise, but their reduced overall HP and less beneficial racial skill bonus might be considered to even things out. |
Den-tredje Baron
ParagonX
132
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:35:00 -
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I totally agree with you that the gallente standard logi is just to weak to do anything. But not be a fanboy or anything but i think CCP are considering in the extra equipment slot the gall has over the 2 equipment slots the caldari got. Right now this makes for a major imbalance as armor just can't do up against shield tanking. So this makes the standar caldari logi into a quite good assault. If giving the gall std logi another high is gonna be the only balance way i don't know. I hope that by buffing armor plates and everything armor related will do the trick. |
Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
60
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Posted - 2013.06.30 15:15:00 -
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Hum, I didn't know that the Caldari only had 2 equipment slots. With that said, sacrificing an eqipment slot for a module slot is not a balanced trade off, especially at the proto level. Something definitely needs to be done to sweeten the deal for both the Gallente std and proto logi.
The key words here: "something still needs to be done here". As it is it is not balanced.
This still doesn't get you off the hook for all that other stuff CCP. |
Eskel Bondfree
DUST University Ivy League
116
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:22:00 -
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Gallente proto logi is far from underpowered, there's no need to give it extra HP or more slots. Have a look: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=89427&find=unread |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
1231
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:31:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:Right now this makes for a major imbalance as armor just can't do up against shield tanking. [sic] I hope that by buffing armor plates and everything armor related will do the trick.
^This. Gal suits are taking a real beating in effectiveness because they are armor tanking suits and armor tanking is weaker than shields right now. It may be that even with a fix to armor v shields the lower tier Gal suits will still need some love but I lean a bit towards fixing the balance issues with tanking prior to making changes that may result in the Gal suit being either underpowered or overpowered.
0.02 ISK Cross
PS ~ Soulwing hum? Do you guys have members who hang out in Fin? |
Doshneil Antaro
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
74
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:37:00 -
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Tier 1 gallente logistics is crap. I would trade 1 equipment for 1 high slot just to have a cheap suit that has some option to the high slot. This is why nobody uses it, and us gallentes don't use it. Everything decimates armor with extreme prejudice, shields not so much. |
Provolonee
Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY
4
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Posted - 2013.06.30 18:04:00 -
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Hmm. The G1 logi suit is my goto suit. A cheap way to deploy lots of equipment. I can fit adv ammo, adv uplinks, and remote explosives on it no problem. It's strength is it's equipment not it's frontline assault capabilities. |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
0
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Posted - 2013.07.17 00:55:00 -
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Son-Of A-Gun wrote:The comparison is made between the Gallente and the Caldari. The reason for this comparison is because, two my understanding, these two suits are supposed to be mirror images of eachother. Such as their shield and armor HP: Caldari = 180/90 and the Gallente = 90/180. The Caldari L-1 slot lay out it two high and one low while the Gallente slot layout is just two low...? Why? FOR THE SAKE OF BALANCE THE GALLENTE L-1 NEEDS TO BE GIVEN ONE HIGH SLOT. Either that or take one away from the Caldari. There is no reason what-so-ever why the Gallente L-1 should be gimped in this way, it has the least module slots out of any of the suits. If their is a sound reason behind the slot layout for the Gallente L-1, I would really like to hear it CCP, because from where I am standing it just looks like a gross over sight. Since uprising I have come across MANY of these little mistakes, such as proto plasma cannons doing less damage to shields than proto swam launcher, the slot lay out for the Gallente scout G-1/series, the Caldari logi having 9 slots while the Gallente logi only has eight, the fact that there is no BPOs for the assault other than Caldari, and the same for scout/Gallente, logistics/Minmatar. I have posted about this stuff on the forums but you guys never acknowledge anything, and the stuff just continues to remain broken. You know, I have been here since september of last year, and I have put up with a lot of crap from this game, but you know what is going to end up making me quit? You guys ignoring/blowing off stuff like this, when it is things that could so easily/quickly be fixed, like slot lay outs and damage stats (and should never have been alwoed to go out to the public the way it was in the first place). Please CCP I implore you, acknowledge this stuff. My patience concerning these things is beginning to wear EXTREAMLY thin. I swear I know I will be flamed for this or yet alone because of my name but idc. Why do people like you keep on asking for stuff the way you do? It's a free to play game, I'd understand if you bought it but geez. Have fun and stop crying just because you think that someone else has an advantage. I know people from my corp who can run the free milita gear vs proto and still win. At the end it's the skill that matters. "Oh you use flaylocks you have no skill." Right sure. Anyway, if you want to motivate them to move faster buy a merc pack or two. **** I bought all 3, mercenary, veteran and elite. Yeah I would like to see some changes but I ain't gonna rush them on a free to play games. That not even buying premium items give you a advantage which is rare in most games. And let's say they fix it, someone just like you will come out and complain that something is broken. People who get owned by something quickly sees it as OP and complain on forums. Now again I know most of you hot heads are going to flame me because I use flaylocks but guess what it's fun and I spent time and money to enjoy what I like. Trust me I know what it's like to run a game. I was staff in a free to play private server of a game called IJJI Gunz. The private server is called DarkGunz , I was head staff and yea you say it's easy to change something but it takes time because if they change a character to blue someone else might want pink than complain. Just my two cents and troll if you want, just shows how pathetic some of you are. |
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Son-Of A-Gun
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
214
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Posted - 2013.07.17 01:44:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:Son-Of A-Gun wrote:The comparison is made between the Gallente and the Caldari. The reason for this comparison is because, two my understanding, these two suits are supposed to be mirror images of eachother. Such as their shield and armor HP: Caldari = 180/90 and the Gallente = 90/180. The Caldari L-1 slot lay out it two high and one low while the Gallente slot layout is just two low...? Why? FOR THE SAKE OF BALANCE THE GALLENTE L-1 NEEDS TO BE GIVEN ONE HIGH SLOT. Either that or take one away from the Caldari. There is no reason what-so-ever why the Gallente L-1 should be gimped in this way, it has the least module slots out of any of the suits. If their is a sound reason behind the slot layout for the Gallente L-1, I would really like to hear it CCP, because from where I am standing it just looks like a gross over sight. Since uprising I have come across MANY of these little mistakes, such as proto plasma cannons doing less damage to shields than proto swam launcher, the slot lay out for the Gallente scout G-1/series, the Caldari logi having 9 slots while the Gallente logi only has eight, the fact that there is no BPOs for the assault other than Caldari, and the same for scout/Gallente, logistics/Minmatar. I have posted about this stuff on the forums but you guys never acknowledge anything, and the stuff just continues to remain broken. You know, I have been here since september of last year, and I have put up with a lot of crap from this game, but you know what is going to end up making me quit? You guys ignoring/blowing off stuff like this, when it is things that could so easily/quickly be fixed, like slot lay outs and damage stats (and should never have been alwoed to go out to the public the way it was in the first place). Please CCP I implore you, acknowledge this stuff. My patience concerning these things is beginning to wear EXTREAMLY thin. I swear I know I will be flamed for this or yet alone because of my name but idc. Why do people like you keep on asking for stuff the way you do? It's a free to play game, I'd understand if you bought it but geez. Have fun and stop crying just because you think that someone else has an advantage. I know people from my corp who can run the free milita gear vs proto and still win. At the end it's the skill that matters. "Oh you use flaylocks you have no skill." Right sure. Anyway, if you want to motivate them to move faster buy a merc pack or two. **** I bought all 3, mercenary, veteran and elite. Yeah I would like to see some changes but I ain't gonna rush them on a free to play games. That not even buying premium items give you a advantage which is rare in most games. And let's say they fix it, someone just like you will come out and complain that something is broken. People who get owned by something quickly sees it as OP and complain on forums. Now again I know most of you hot heads are going to flame me because I use flaylocks but guess what it's fun and I spent time and money to enjoy what I like. Trust me I know what it's like to run a game. I was staff in a free to play private server of a game called IJJI Gunz. The private server is called DarkGunz , I was head staff and yea you say it's easy to change something but it takes time because if they change a character to blue someone else might want pink than complain. Just my two cents and troll if you want, just shows how pathetic some of you are.
Who is this game free for? I have spent several hundred dollars on this game, when in any other instance (any other game) I would have only shelled out sixty dolars for the initial purchase and MAYBE another forty for DLC. IMO because this game is "free to play" CCP has even more responsibility to be on the ball.
The problems that have been outlined in this thread, are reasonable complaints and CCP should treat them as such.
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