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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:08:00 -
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Sentinels, Logis, assaults and scouts, AKA the specialized suits, don't feel that different from the basic version AND the other suits. They have minor tweaks here and there, but overall they all feel the same. My suggestion is this - Increase all the advantages and disadvantages of all suits. Here is what I thought of:
Increase sentinel HP to 1250 but reduce speed to 2m/s walk speed and 4m/s sprint speed
Increase scout speed to 6.5m/s running speed and 9m/s sprinting speed I won't give them a disadvantage as they don't need it, scouts are underpowered
Assault gets 15% extra damage on every weapon, but lose the equipment slot
Logis get an extra equipment slot across the board, but reduced base HP and base speed
These are just my ideas, but even if you don't like them, this thread is about making specialized suits actually special |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1273
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:09:00 -
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Ooops, please move to Feedback/Requests |
EternalRMG CM
Eir Gaming
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Sentinels, Logis, assaults and scouts, AKA the specialized suits, don't feel that different from the basic version AND the other suits. They have minor tweaks here and there, but overall they all feel the same. My suggestion is this - Increase all the advantages and disadvantages of all suits. Here is what I thought of:
Increase sentinel HP to 1250 but reduce speed to 2m/s walk speed and 4m/s sprint speed
Increase scout speed to 6.5m/s running speed and 9m/s sprinting speed I won't give them a disadvantage as they don't need it, scouts are underpowered
Assault gets 15% extra damage on every weapon, but lose the equipment slot
Logis get an extra equipment slot across the board, but reduced base HP and base speed
making heavys slower ?? are you mad Snipers will be able to kill them really fast. along with any other long range weapon
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2429
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:10:00 -
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The Sentinel suit is alright... but the bonuses LOOOOOL
- Reload bonus
- Reduced Feedback dmg
^ damn, those things sure do come in handy on an HMG / FG
Edite: Reducing movement speed on heavies anymore is a stupid idea. Leave the HP as is, and leave the speed... tbh, they can increase the turning speed. Movement speed is fine. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
204
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:11:00 -
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give up my equipment slot? screw that. Nanohives and RE's are my life. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1273
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:11:00 -
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EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Sentinels, Logis, assaults and scouts, AKA the specialized suits, don't feel that different from the basic version AND the other suits. They have minor tweaks here and there, but overall they all feel the same. My suggestion is this - Increase all the advantages and disadvantages of all suits. Here is what I thought of:
Increase sentinel HP to 1250 but reduce speed to 2m/s walk speed and 4m/s sprint speed
Increase scout speed to 6.5m/s running speed and 9m/s sprinting speed I won't give them a disadvantage as they don't need it, scouts are underpowered
Assault gets 15% extra damage on every weapon, but lose the equipment slot
Logis get an extra equipment slot across the board, but reduced base HP and base speed making heavys slower ?? are you mad Snipers will be able to kill them really fast. along with any other long range weapon And they get extra HP. Mind you, they only lose 1m/s on both walking speed and sprinting speed, and can easily compensate with a single speed mod. |
The Knight Faust
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:11:00 -
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Scouts....are not underpowered....And there speed is whats already great about them. Furthering that would only further the hitbox issue |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1273
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:11:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:The Sentinel suit is alright... but the bonuses LOOOOOL - Reload bonus - Reduced Feedback dmg ^ damn, those things sure do come in handy on an HMG / FG Yeah, I agree about that lol |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1273
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:12:00 -
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The Knight Faust wrote:Scouts....are not underpowered....And there speed is whats already great about them. Furthering that would only further the hitbox issue Their speed bonus vs the amount of disadvantages they have is minor. |
DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:13:00 -
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How about the heavy has the same health but is way faster That will make the better
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1273
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:17:00 -
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DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote:How about the heavy has the same health but is way faster That will make the better
... Then what would be the point of going assault? Or anything else for that matter.
Heavy suits are balanced, the HMG is terrible, that is all. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
172
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:20:00 -
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Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1273
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:22:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. |
EternalRMG CM
Eir Gaming
0
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Posted - 2013.06.29 21:07:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi |
Major Lee High
Battle Response Organizations
17
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Posted - 2013.06.29 21:35:00 -
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EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi
As soon as they add flux grenades it will be fine.
I am minmatar and we have no hp lol, I die a lot... |
Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1274
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Posted - 2013.06.29 21:56:00 -
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EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi Think again. Do the math, all proto logis beat proto assaults in every way.
The Caldari logi is just the worst of the bunch. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens EoN.
173
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:40:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi Think again. Do the math, all proto logis beat proto assaults in every way. The Caldari logi is just the worst of the bunch.
With respect Cat, that's ... simplistic.
Over the Cal Logi, the Cal assault, for instance, has more killing potential due to sidearm and faster reload, as well as faster shield recharge for bouncing to the next fight. It's also a faster suit.
Besides equipment, Cal Logi's single strong point over assaults is higher shield HP... which is minimal in terms of percentage and how many AR rounds it takes to make up the difference. It's just that players facing Cal Logis... suck at facing Cal Logis. I'm honestly saying this with a straight face. You people suck at killing Caldari Logis. Well... except for all those people that kill me all the time
Throw a ******* flux ... utilize your suit's strength (Assaults) by drawing fire until the Logi has to reload at which time he is abso-****** if you know what you're doing rather than wondering why the guy with high shield HP and AR proficiency IV/V is killing you as you stand still in front of him.
Why do people want this game balanced on the premise of "If I stand toe to toe with X and I die, it is OP" ... there is more to this game than standing toe-to-toe. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
433
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:44:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi Think again. Do the math, all proto logis beat proto assaults in every way. The Caldari logi is just the worst of the bunch. I disagree, the assault hitbox is slightly smaller and shields regen much faster, not to mention faster strafe vs slower strafe. these are enough advantages for good players to win fights against logis when rolling with an assault. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
492
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:47:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Cat Merc wrote:EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi Think again. Do the math, all proto logis beat proto assaults in every way. The Caldari logi is just the worst of the bunch. With respect Cat, that's ... simplistic. Over the Cal Logi, the Cal assault, for instance, has more killing potential due to sidearm and faster reload, as well as faster shield recharge for bouncing to the next fight. It's also a faster suit. Besides equipment, Cal Logi's single strong point over assaults is higher shield HP... which is minimal in terms of percentage and how many AR rounds it takes to make up the difference. It's just that players facing Cal Logis... suck at facing Cal Logis. I'm honestly saying this with a straight face. You people suck at killing Caldari Logis. Well... except for all those people that kill me all the time Throw a ******* flux ... utilize your suit's strength (Assaults) by drawing fire until the Logi has to reload at which time he is abso-****** if you know what you're doing rather than wondering why the guy with high shield HP and AR proficiency IV/V is killing you as you stand still in front of him. Why do people want this game balanced on the premise of "If I stand toe to toe with X and I die, it is OP" ... there is more to this game than standing toe-to-toe. I just use charged SCR shots on you guys. It tears through your shielding . |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
493
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Posted - 2013.06.30 01:48:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Cat Merc wrote:EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi Think again. Do the math, all proto logis beat proto assaults in every way. The Caldari logi is just the worst of the bunch. I disagree, the assault hitbox is slightly smaller and shields regen much faster, not to mention faster strafe vs slower strafe. these are enough advantages for good players to win fights against logis when rolling with an assault. Sorry but the Cal Logi is OP. The others are fine but the Cal Logi....... |
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1298
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:16:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Cat Merc wrote:EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi Think again. Do the math, all proto logis beat proto assaults in every way. The Caldari logi is just the worst of the bunch. I disagree, the assault hitbox is slightly smaller and shields regen much faster, not to mention faster strafe vs slower strafe. these are enough advantages for good players to win fights against logis when rolling with an assault. Ehemm, the hitboxes are no longer different between assault and logi. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1043
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi Think again. Do the math, all proto logis beat proto assaults in every way. The Caldari logi is just the worst of the bunch.
The Amarr assault has more PG than the Amarr Logi, higher hp/shields, the same module slots, faster movement, and a weapon bonus. Explain to me how the Amarr Logi is beats it "in every way".
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Cat Merc
Oculus Felis
1298
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:58:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Cat Merc wrote:EternalRMG CM wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Rogatien Merc wrote:Disregard inclusion of "Logi" in OP. It obviously feels quite different from the basic frames. TBH it feels just plain more powerful. It's extremely easy to make a logi suit that beats an assault suit in every way, and that's not including the fact that you get 3 more equipment slots. ONLY THE FUC KING CALDARI LOGI} the only OP logi Think again. Do the math, all proto logis beat proto assaults in every way. The Caldari logi is just the worst of the bunch. The Amarr assault has more PG than the Amarr Logi, higher hp/shields, the same module slots, faster movement, and a weapon bonus. Explain to me how the Amarr Logi is beats it "in every way". Well, I wrote that comment late at night. This is the result. Gal Logi and Cal Logi beat their assault counterparts, I never studied closely the Min logi and Amarr logi. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
485
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ooops, please move to Feedback/Requests
Done! |
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Lightning Bolt2
DUST University Ivy League
30
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:41:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: Assault gets 15% extra damage on every weapon, but lose the equipment slot
Nice, making it even MORE likely to use assaults for everything but medic, so much 4 continuing my scout if I get 1-hit by every weapon the assault can wield.
DMG is just to important on this game to have any bonuses to it past the proficiency skill of a weapon. |
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