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Rifter7
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:53:00 -
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it really limits the suits already weak tank if you intend to have a sidearm or grenade.
anyone else notice this? |

King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
427
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:54:00 -
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I feel like CPU across the board needs to be buffed, i'm forced to run complex CPU mods in every caldari assault suit i have |

Rifter7
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
239
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:55:00 -
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here's an example
duvolle core flaylock locus grenade
3 complex damage mods
3 complex armor plates 1 basic armor repairer
1 compact nanohive.
need every cpu reduction and boosting skill at 5 to fit that. flaylocks the lowest req sidearm in the game.. and it doesnt even have an advanced nade?? |

Alldin Kan
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
315
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:57:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:here's an example
duvolle core flaylock locus grenade
3 complex damage mods [2 is enough...]
3 complex armor plates 1 basic armor repairer
1 compact nanohive.
need every cpu reduction and boosting skill at 5 to fit that. flaylocks the lowest req sidearm in the game.. and it doesnt even have an advanced nade??
There's your problem.
Oh, and stay away from CQC with those plates. |

Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:59:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:it really limits the suits already weak tank if you intend to have a sidearm or grenade.
anyone else notice this? You really don't want this game to have any risk involved at all, do you.
Play to the suit's strengths, instead of trying to make another god-mode suit. The militia Gallente alone has 3 lot slots. Configure it with that in mind, instead of whining to CCP that it doesn't have 1000 PG and 2500 CPU.
My militia Gallente has near 350 armor, and the only skill I have is dropsuit armor 5. Two militia plates take care of the rest. |

King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
427
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:59:00 -
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should be able to fit proto everything in a protosuit IMO |

Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:59:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:I feel like CPU across the board needs to be buffed, i'm forced to run complex CPU mods in every caldari assault suit i have Why is it people want to be able to fit everything while compromising nothing?
Risk vs reward |

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:03:00 -
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maybe just maybe you should train your core skills oh oh and then look at the racial bonus for gallente assault oh does that put a reduction on things? yes it does bro. |

King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
427
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:04:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:King Kobrah wrote:I feel like CPU across the board needs to be buffed, i'm forced to run complex CPU mods in every caldari assault suit i have Why is it people want to be able to fit everything while compromising nothing? Risk vs reward Because it doesn't make a lot of sense to be in the best suit in the game that can't run all of the best equipment. both my PG and CPU skills are at 5, too and it's still NOT EVEN CLOSE. |

Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
139
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:08:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Rifter7 wrote:it really limits the suits already weak tank if you intend to have a sidearm or grenade.
anyone else notice this? You really don't want this game to have any risk involved at all, do you. Play to the suit's strengths, instead of trying to make another god-mode suit. The militia Gallente alone has 3 lot slots. Configure it with that in mind, instead of whining to CCP that it doesn't have 1000 PG and 2500 CPU. My militia Gallente has near 350 armor, and the only skill I have is dropsuit armor 5. Two militia plates take care of the rest.
and a caldari logi has no fitting issues with geting to HP levels of a sentinal without the mobility issues.
Its called balance, no amount of masochists saying adapt or die will change how stupid and unbalanced it is.
If ccp doesn't balance it, long term everyone with a brain will go cal logi, and let the adapt or die idiots use gimped suits with a fraction of the hp. |
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:12:00 -
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Patoman Radiant wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:Rifter7 wrote:it really limits the suits already weak tank if you intend to have a sidearm or grenade.
anyone else notice this? You really don't want this game to have any risk involved at all, do you. Play to the suit's strengths, instead of trying to make another god-mode suit. The militia Gallente alone has 3 lot slots. Configure it with that in mind, instead of whining to CCP that it doesn't have 1000 PG and 2500 CPU. My militia Gallente has near 350 armor, and the only skill I have is dropsuit armor 5. Two militia plates take care of the rest. and a caldari logi has no fitting issues with geting to HP levels of a sentinal without the mobility issues. Its called balance, no amount of masochists saying adapt or die will change how stupid and unbalanced it is. If ccp doesn't balance it, long term everyone with a brain will go cal logi, and let the adapt or die idiots use gimped suits with a fraction of the hp. just need mure flux on the field and watch the caldari scram as i shoot while my logi bro reps my nice shiny armor |

Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
102
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:14:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:should be able to fit proto everything in a protosuit IMO
Then why bother with the inclusion of cpu upgrade modules?
Face it, you have to sacrfice for those high meta items |

Avallo Kantor
DUST University Ivy League
119
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:15:00 -
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Much like ships in EVE, dropsuits were not designed around the principal that they should be able to effortlessly fit any combination. If they wanted to make it so that you could fit all the best damage, and tanking mods, as well as a weapon, sidearm, and grenades, then they wouldn't have bothered with CPU / PG at all.
The reason for these things is to limit the exact situation you are running into, i.e trying to just fit damage / tank mods all at the highest level. PG / CPU restrictions were not coded in so that you could ignore them, and likewise CPU / Powergrid modules were not added by mistake. The reason they are there is to sacrifice module space to allow more effective fittings, and thus it shouldn't be seen as a "mistake" when one has to fit them to get to certain fitting combinations.
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EternalRMG CM
Eir Gaming
0
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:16:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:King Kobrah wrote:I feel like CPU across the board needs to be buffed, i'm forced to run complex CPU mods in every caldari assault suit i have Why is it people want to be able to fit everything while compromising nothing? Risk vs reward Because it doesn't make a lot of sense to be in the best suit in the game that can't run all of the best equipment. both my PG and CPU skills are at 5, too and it's still NOT EVEN CLOSE. I have 800 HP with my gallente Proto Logi Proto Injector Proto Hives Proto Reptool and Proto Uplink proto flux nade proto AR
all CPU/PG related skills at lvl 5 The best suit to fit stuff is the gallente logi cause of the equimpent Cpu/PG Bonus |

Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:17:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:should be able to fit proto everything in a protosuit IMO People like this complain that the playerbase is too low, and also complain about something like this.
I used to be able to fit everything I wanted on a Madrugar, but now I have to consider if I want higher damage, or high defenses. You don't have to consider that.
Stop complaining, you sound like a Call of Duty kid. |

Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:18:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:maybe just maybe you should train your core skills oh oh and then look at the racial bonus for gallente assault oh does that put a reduction on things? yes it does bro. almost forgot assault rifle optimization also light weapon skill Don't point out easy to figure out things. |

Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
83
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:18:00 -
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CPU modules, and CPU upgrade skills... seems to be what CCP is trying to encourage us to use alot more, but with some suits finding the right balance is a mission impossible, specially the scout suits. |

Sleepy Zan
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
2311
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:21:00 -
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Good thing I went with winmatar. |

Sleepy Zan
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
2311
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:22:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:CPU modules, and CPU upgrade skills... seems to be what CCP is trying to encourage us to use alot more, but with some suits finding the right balance is a mission impossible, specially the scout suits. Scout is dead |

Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
405
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:23:00 -
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I think it's the case with most suits. I run a Gallente Logi, so 25% equipment fitting reduction, and I have rank 4 in the Core/CPU/PG skills. With that I can run 4 proto items, 8 adv, and 2 basic. |
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Sleepy Zan
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
2311
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:35:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:King Kobrah wrote:I feel like CPU across the board needs to be buffed, i'm forced to run complex CPU mods in every caldari assault suit i have Why is it people want to be able to fit everything while compromising nothing? Risk vs reward Because it doesn't make a lot of sense to be in the best suit in the game that can't run all of the best equipment. both my PG and CPU skills are at 5, too and it's still NOT EVEN CLOSE. It makes no sense that any suit would relieve from the burden of having to make a choice.
You made me lol, thank you. |

Rifter7
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:41:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Rifter7 wrote:here's an example
duvolle core flaylock locus grenade
3 complex damage mods -> [2 is enough...]
3 complex armor plates 1 basic armor repairer
1 compact nanohive.
need every cpu reduction and boosting skill at 5 to fit that. flaylocks the lowest req sidearm in the game.. and it doesnt even have an advanced nade?? There's your problem. Oh, and stay away from CQC with those plates.
what would you go with? |

XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:41:00 -
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assault suit bonus lvl5 25% reduction to pg/cpu to hybrid weaponry
dropsuit engineering & electronics lvl5 25% bonus to each pg/cpu
core upgrade lvl5 5% to pg/cpu
light weapon operation lvl5 15% cpu
assault rifle fitting optimization lvl5 25% reduction to pg
same goes for the sidearm operation and optimizaton
i dont believe your skilled into lvl5 of all these skills
theres also explosives lvl5 that brings a reduction
so maybe you should grind a bit more boost a bit more and skill a bit more
then come back |

Rifter7
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:43:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:assault suit bonus lvl5 25% reduction to pg/cpu to hybrid weaponry
dropsuit engineering & electronics lvl5 25% bonus to each pg/cpu
core upgrade lvl5 5% to pg/cpu
light weapon operation lvl5 15% cpu
assault rifle fitting optimization lvl5 25% reduction to pg
same goes for the sidearm operation and optimizaton
i dont believe your skilled into lvl5 of all these skills
theres also explosives lvl5 that brings a reduction
so maybe you should grind a bit more boost a bit more and skill a bit more
then come back
can you read? i said all that stuff COULD be fit with max skills.. **** off lol idc. |

Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:43:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:King Kobrah wrote:I feel like CPU across the board needs to be buffed, i'm forced to run complex CPU mods in every caldari assault suit i have Why is it people want to be able to fit everything while compromising nothing? Risk vs reward Because it doesn't make a lot of sense to be in the best suit in the game that can't run all of the best equipment. both my PG and CPU skills are at 5, too and it's still NOT EVEN CLOSE. It makes no sense that any suit would relieve from the burden of having to make a choice. You made me lol, thank you. +1 |

Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:44:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Rifter7 wrote:here's an example
duvolle core flaylock locus grenade
3 complex damage mods -> [2 is enough...]
3 complex armor plates 1 basic armor repairer
1 compact nanohive.
need every cpu reduction and boosting skill at 5 to fit that. flaylocks the lowest req sidearm in the game.. and it doesnt even have an advanced nade?? There's your problem. Oh, and stay away from CQC with those plates. what would you go with? LOL Even I can answer that. I'll take "Don't go for armor tank" for $400, Alex. |

EternalRMG CM
Eir Gaming
0
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:45:00 -
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Sleepy Zan wrote:Good thing I went with winmatar. Thought you had been baned from this games, and never planed on returning |

Rifter7
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
241
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:46:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Rifter7 wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Rifter7 wrote:here's an example
duvolle core flaylock locus grenade
3 complex damage mods -> [2 is enough...]
3 complex armor plates 1 basic armor repairer
1 compact nanohive.
need every cpu reduction and boosting skill at 5 to fit that. flaylocks the lowest req sidearm in the game.. and it doesnt even have an advanced nade?? There's your problem. Oh, and stay away from CQC with those plates. what would you go with? LOL Even I can answer that. I'll take "Don't go for armor tank" for $400, Alex.
i wasn't asking you.
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DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:46:00 -
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Lack of cpu I always thought the power grid is what Gallente lacked. |

King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
427
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:57:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:King Kobrah wrote:I feel like CPU across the board needs to be buffed, i'm forced to run complex CPU mods in every caldari assault suit i have Why is it people want to be able to fit everything while compromising nothing? Risk vs reward Because it doesn't make a lot of sense to be in the best suit in the game that can't run all of the best equipment. both my PG and CPU skills are at 5, too and it's still NOT EVEN CLOSE. Risk vs reward lol @ these kiddies thinking they know what they're talking about
the only proto stuff I can't fit is a proto nanohive, SO MUCH RISK VS REWARD RITE GAIS? my 4 complex shield extenders duvolle, core flaylock, 2x proto shield regs, proto cpu upgrade and core locus grenades all fit just fine, but no amount of passive skills will let me fit proto hives too, which is probably an oversight on CCPs part. |
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