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DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.06.29 16:30:00 -
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There should not be any new nefs in this game until the nerf bat gets swung at the AR and this nerf should be the same nerf that the HMG, Laser rifle, Mass Driver received since you basically nerfed these weapon big time the AR should receive the same nerf it is completely bs that Before uprising there was a shitload of variety in weaponry that was seen in this game now all we see is the AR and Flaylock pistol and if you do nerf the Flaylock you need to nerf the AR when you do so |

Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.29 16:38:00 -
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Wat !?!
Was lots of AR's before Uprising ... that is why they got nerfed. The only way to stop people using the AR, is to remove it from the game altogether. I think CCP is learning lesson the hard way.. sadly. Nerf the AR anymore, and lost a big percentage of players...they already make that mistake with the mouse by trying to nerfed. |

DoomLead
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Posted - 2013.06.29 16:43:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Wat !?!  Was lots of AR's before Uprising ... that is why they got nerfed. The only way to stop people using the AR, is to remove it from the game altogether. I think CCP is learning lesson the hard way.. sadly. Nerf the AR anymore, and lost a big percentage of players...they already make that mistake with the mouse by trying to nerfed. thats why there shouldn't be anymore nerfs if anything the Laser, Mass driver, and Hmg need a buff Espicially the Laser and Mass Driver |

Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:00:00 -
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I respectfully disagree. I don't see a reason to nerf the ar. People use other weapons, but obviously the ar is going to feel the most familiar in an fps world, and it's not OP. Flaylocks are noob tube's. |

Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:02:00 -
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I merely wish they would un-nerf all other weapons. Seems those who whine the loudest get what they want. |

DoomLead
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:05:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:I respectfully disagree. I don't see a reason to nerf the ar. People use other weapons, but obviously the ar is going to feel the most familiar in an fps world, and it's not OP. Flaylocks are noob tube's. I am saying they can't nerf any more weapon unless they nerf the freaking AR cause every other weapon sux right now when was the last time you were killed by a laser rifle or a mass driver I can't even remeber so if the only weapon right now you are getting killed by is the AR it needs a nerf because it is too effective which is the logic behind all the nerfs that have happened since chromosome |

Jade Dragonis
GRIM MARCH
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:07:00 -
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Laser rifle x 3 today.
Mass Driver x 2 today.
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
102
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:13:00 -
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Nerf our arms ability to move so that we cannot carry any form of gun and can only damage eachother through headbuts and kicks. |

N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:23:00 -
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Ar's are fine. You just see them the most because there the average weapon. Good at everything not great at anything.
Also from a heavy an a hmg user. It is fine. I don't see the problem. I kill everything in cqc combat. You just have to control your engagements |

DoomLead
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:27:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Ar's are fine. You just see them the most because there the average weapon. Good at everything not great at anything.
Also from a heavy an a hmg user. It is fine. I don't see the problem. I kill everything in cqc combat. You just have to control your engagements in the last build you saw a lot of every weapon not just the AR. I agree about the hmg except when I get killed by someone who has an duvolle and they can kill me in my effective range faster than i can kill them which happens from time to time |
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:30:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:I respectfully disagree. I don't see a reason to nerf the ar. People use other weapons, but obviously the ar is going to feel the most familiar in an fps world, and it's not OP. Flaylocks are noob tube's. I am saying they can't nerf any more weapon unless they nerf the freaking AR cause every other weapon sux right now when was the last time you were killed by a laser rifle or a mass driver I can't even remeber so if the only weapon right now you are getting killed by is the AR it needs a nerf because it is too effective which is the logic behind all the nerfs that have happened since chromosome
That was well though out. Thanks for not flaming people that disagree with you. I respect that. The lzer needs fixing, the sights and dps are inadequate we all agree. but many of the weapons you mentioned are being used just fine by people. The mass driver takes practice but can slay people. Sure it's more difficult than the ar, but it also comes with potential the ar doesn't. HMG is working well, heavies abound in serious pc matches. re's need to stop glitching but they work. proxies need a slight buff to damage/shorter lock on and activation time cause there's times logi lav's aren't affected by them, but the ar doesn't need a nerf imo. |

DoomLead
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:37:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:DoomLead wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:I respectfully disagree. I don't see a reason to nerf the ar. People use other weapons, but obviously the ar is going to feel the most familiar in an fps world, and it's not OP. Flaylocks are noob tube's. I am saying they can't nerf any more weapon unless they nerf the freaking AR cause every other weapon sux right now when was the last time you were killed by a laser rifle or a mass driver I can't even remeber so if the only weapon right now you are getting killed by is the AR it needs a nerf because it is too effective which is the logic behind all the nerfs that have happened since chromosome That was well though out. Thanks for not flaming people that disagree with you. I respect that. The lzer needs fixing, the sights and dps are inadequate we all agree. but many of the weapons you mentioned are being used just fine by people. The mass driver takes practice but can slay people. Sure it's more difficult than the ar, but it also comes with potential the ar doesn't. HMG is working well, heavies abound in serious pc matches. re's need to stop glitching but they work. proxies need a slight buff to damage/shorter lock on and activation time cause there's times logi lav's aren't affected by them, but the ar doesn't need a nerf imo. I mainly made this post because every one is crying for the flaylock to be nerfed and it's getting annoying so my retort is if any weapon recieves a nerf it should be the AR. Since more people are using the flaylock and it is getting a lot of kills people want it nerfed. My logical argument is because the AR gets more kills than the Flaylock it should be nerfed. mind you I am not specced into any side arms and i don't use the flaylock. I am a true blue hmg user who would just like to be effective out to 40m instead of 20m and suffer wicked dispersion after that |

GVGMODE
187. League of Infamy
14
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:41:00 -
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LMAO go nerf AR's and you will only hurt the low SP players who have been investing in it mainly. Veteran players have already all their core skills, side equipment and at least 2 to 3 weapons that are fully specialized.
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Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:53:00 -
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DoomLead wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Ar's are fine. You just see them the most because there the average weapon. Good at everything not great at anything.
Also from a heavy an a hmg user. It is fine. I don't see the problem. I kill everything in cqc combat. You just have to control your engagements in the last build you saw a lot of every weapon not just the AR. I agree about the hmg except when I get killed by someone who has an duvolle and they can kill me in my effective range faster than i can kill them which happens from time to time
The reason you saw more variety of weapons was because you saw more people playing.With only 4500 people on at the moment,and the fact that ARs are the backbone of EVERY SINGLE SHOOTER EVER MADE!!!,it's no wonder that you think that AR's are more dominant that other weapons,BECAUSE THEY ARE!!!
From playing the game Brink,it has made me realize that the only thing to make a shooter super tactical,and not have OP ARs,all you need to do is one thing;decrease the amount of ammo in a clip and total amount of ammo carried.This makes support roles more important,and forces AR guys to run in packs and focus fire on one target to take them down.It's just that simple. |

Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:00:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:DoomLead wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Ar's are fine. You just see them the most because there the average weapon. Good at everything not great at anything.
Also from a heavy an a hmg user. It is fine. I don't see the problem. I kill everything in cqc combat. You just have to control your engagements in the last build you saw a lot of every weapon not just the AR. I agree about the hmg except when I get killed by someone who has an duvolle and they can kill me in my effective range faster than i can kill them which happens from time to time The reason you saw more variety of weapons was because you saw more people playing.With only 4500 people on at the moment,and the fact that ARs are the backbone of EVERY SINGLE SHOOTER EVER MADE!!!,it's no wonder that you think that AR's are more dominant that other weapons,BECAUSE THEY ARE!!! From playing the game Brink,it has made me realize that the only thing to make a shooter super tactical,and not have OP ARs,all you need to do is one thing;decrease the amount of ammo in a clip and total amount of ammo carried.This makes support roles more important,and forces AR guys to run in packs and focus fire on one target to take them down.It's just that simple.
Brink ? ... You meant the game that failed as hard as Dust 514 its failing right now ? I don't thing that is a good comparison ....or something that CCP should follow as a guide line...... |

Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.29 18:40:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:DoomLead wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:Ar's are fine. You just see them the most because there the average weapon. Good at everything not great at anything.
Also from a heavy an a hmg user. It is fine. I don't see the problem. I kill everything in cqc combat. You just have to control your engagements in the last build you saw a lot of every weapon not just the AR. I agree about the hmg except when I get killed by someone who has an duvolle and they can kill me in my effective range faster than i can kill them which happens from time to time The reason you saw more variety of weapons was because you saw more people playing.With only 4500 people on at the moment,and the fact that ARs are the backbone of EVERY SINGLE SHOOTER EVER MADE!!!,it's no wonder that you think that AR's are more dominant that other weapons,BECAUSE THEY ARE!!! From playing the game Brink,it has made me realize that the only thing to make a shooter super tactical,and not have OP ARs,all you need to do is one thing;decrease the amount of ammo in a clip and total amount of ammo carried.This makes support roles more important,and forces AR guys to run in packs and focus fire on one target to take them down.It's just that simple. Brink ? ... You meant the game that failed as hard as Dust 514 its failing right now ? I don't thing that is a good comparison ....or something that CCP should follow as a guide line......  One of the reasons why Brink failed is because of insecure gamers that need to validate themselves by their KDR,something that Brink didn't keep track of.For those of us that stayed and played,we learned that without KD and a limited ammo supply,it made for better teamwork,and less Rambo-ing.
I'm not saying Brink is a perfect shooter,because it isn't,but those two things made it more compelling than a lot other shooters. |

DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:04:00 -
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I think other weapons need a buff like mass driver gets there splash damange back. The hmg actually has good range but it needs a tighter spread to be more accurate. Lazer rifles need to be like how they were in chromosome with little bit less damage. And the assault rifle needs a range nerf cause it's high range with med range is should be high damage with short range like a blaster. |

Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.29 19:23:00 -
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DRDEEZENUTSZ TWOpointo wrote: And the assault rifle needs a range nerf cause it's high range with med range is should be high damage with short range like a blaster.
WTF
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:12:00 -
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the AR is balanced when the same # of ppl use the AR as everything else. |

Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
649
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Posted - 2013.06.29 22:24:00 -
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Yeah nerf everything, that will make the game better
God damn you people, Waaaaaah I was killed so that weapon must be OP, thats why we are in this situation right now ******* buff everything else dont call for the few effective things to be nerfed |
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Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:28:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:the AR is balanced when the same # of ppl use the AR as everything else.
Wut...that's crap IMO. But I love you Charlotte |

Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.29 23:30:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah nerf everything, that will make the game better
God damn you people, Waaaaaah I was killed so that weapon must be OP, thats why we are in this situation right now ******* buff everything else dont call for the few effective things to be nerfed
Pretty much, but be nicer! |
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