DUST Search - Laser Rifles

Harkon Vysarii wrote:

Cenex Langly wrote:

Cass Barr wrote:

I think everyone knows the LR needs help. It needs a sight that works at range, and if its range really was reduced that badly it needs to be increased to TAR+20 or so. Maybe 10 since a TAR is also crap at short range now, too. Though it's still better than a LR

HAHAHAH This will never happen. Here is the precise reason why. When it was broken back in Chromosome and your buddies were getting 9.0 kdr with it, they abused the heck out of it. They abused the exploit so badly that it was nerfed hard. Real hard. It's completely useless now because of that abuse. Good luck seeing it buffed back up. There is "NO ONE" in the entire community that would ever want to see this gun insta-kill ever again. The only people that want it back are those that exploited it. Never-gonna-happen-again...

The only issue about the laser was how the viaziam was able to swipe kill players. the basic and ELM didn't do that reliably or often, Laser if needs it buff back, personally im fine with the current damage and heat build up. Its just the sights and glare that it gives off when it fires that means picking out and hitting targets is harder than it needs to be.

Its like the AR having a massive flash every time it fires where it obscures all of the screen in a fit inducing strobe light.


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Provolonee Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY 8	Posted - 2013.06.30 22:29:00 - [1] - Quote TonYtigr wrote: Echoist wrote: Anyways i'd love to squad up with my few remaining laser fanatics and cause mayham in the battlefield. Good idea! Lets do like the mass driver users are doing, lets create a specific channel to squad up. I propose Laser Pointer I would squad with you. I'm slowing speccing back into the LR. Tried it on an alt. got to prof lvl 4. There is no point going past the ELM. If your target is going to die from a laser, they will die from a STD LR, just the same as a viziam. I have setup i use now, I average around 1500WP a match and have been seeing some success. My thoughts on balance: -Damage is fine, some targets drop really fast, some seem to be immune. -range is good, With the TAR balanced you can be safely out of AR range and melt face. which is the main reason you have to be careful with balancing this weapon. -Hip fire is to fast (and pointless) ADS is to slow to track. -Feedback dmg is to high to use it on a scout suit, and not blow yourself up. -for a Pin point accurate weapon being able to see your target would help a bit. -can only use it in the daylight otherwise the glare completely blinds you. maybe we need some sunglasses to laser at night. -It is still subject to the reload bug, (reload, cant shoot, melee, reload for real this time) happens 3-4 times a match for me. Honestly if they just reverted the sights or took away the glare, the gun would be OP and fun to use again. That design decision is still baffling me. Unless it was made to make room for something else, like the gun needed a rail for fitting our own scopes on it. Balancing a weapon by decreasing a users ability to Aim is not fun and a poor call. Not only from a mechanics stand point, but aesthetically the gun lost a lot of its luster. Caldari Assault : " Ermer Gerd Lazers are OP" CCP: "We could put a paper bag over there heads while ADS. FIXED!"
Provolonee Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY 8	Posted - 2013.06.30 22:45:00 - [2] - Quote Green Living wrote: I'm still using the LR. Have since day one of their introduction into the game. I have posted in various threads what needs to be done and it looks like you all have covered the issues with the LR. With that said, I'm very interested in creating a squad of 6 lasers users. What is everyone using for their sidearm? SMG here but I'm considering Flaylock seeing how powerful it is at the moment. I use a Logi suit. Remote explosives are my side arm.
Provolonee Undefined Risk DARKSTAR ARMY 8	Posted - 2013.06.30 22:55:00 - [3] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Cenex Langly wrote: Cass Barr wrote: I think everyone knows the LR needs help. It needs a sight that works at range, and if its range really was reduced that badly it needs to be increased to TAR+20 or so. Maybe 10 since a TAR is also crap at short range now, too. Though it's still better than a LR HAHAHAH This will never happen. Here is the precise reason why. When it was broken back in Chromosome and your buddies were getting 9.0 kdr with it, they abused the heck out of it. They abused the exploit so badly that it was nerfed hard. Real hard. It's completely useless now because of that abuse. Good luck seeing it buffed back up. There is "NO ONE" in the entire community that would ever want to see this gun insta-kill ever again. The only people that want it back are those that exploited it. Never-gonna-happen-again... The only issue about the laser was how the viaziam was able to swipe kill players. the basic and ELM didn't do that reliably or often, Laser if needs it buff back, personally im fine with the current damage and heat build up. Its just the sights and glare that it gives off when it fires that means picking out and hitting targets is harder than it needs to be. Its like the AR having a massive flash every time it fires where it obscures all of the screen in a fit inducing strobe light. It was only the Viziam at the end of its cycle vs MLT Caldari suits that would get insta popped. We started calling them jiffy pops. The viziam was also the only laser that had a damage increase, and apparently it was a typo. the standard/ELM still took alot of burning to drop a armor tanked heavy. Pretty much had to start an incision from his crotch and slowly work your way up to his head. With the old aiming mechanics you could easily do such a surgical move, sucking the tears straight from there eyeball. That is player skill and should be rewarded.