Ever notice that there are people who have like 4-5 threads around that they have been bumping for the last 3 weeks? The type that goes into a thread and trolls a point, derailing a thread instead of contributing to it? The type that uses sharp wit or attacks instead of strength of argument to gather support for their assertion in a thread? The type that I look at and think "I have 25,000+ kills, I've played everyone on dust, even these guys like darken-sol and shottygo bang, and yet I've never seen you?" and then you check the top 250 players over the last month and realize virtually none of them play the game that much. None of them plays enough to earn like 1.8 mill WP's this last month and a half. They just spout off on the forums all day about how this needs this and this needs that and the commando suit needs this and how this idea will fix PC. I gotta be honest. Your efficacy for me from now on will be based somewhat (not solely of course) on whether you play the game enough to be in the info brokers top 250 players. There are also just some people on here that have tons of likes and are well known enough of the forums that I personally have seen multiple posts that were straight stupid. But people listen to them because they post a lot, or have a lot of likes.

I'll bust out names

Actually no, you are sometimes useless in threads, but not what the OP is about TBH. Shut up and stop drawing attention to yourself you noob. You always do this when I want real feedback. Got any insight?

I nominate myself

I also nominate you. You are the guy on bodybuilding.com trying to tell everybody else they are wrong and what they should do. Do you even Dust bro?!?

Weighting the opinions of only those that meet a criteria of import that you have defined into existence excludes most members of a community of equals. You propose a clique not a community. it equates to keeping women from the vote. They never worked in top civil or political positions and could not own property. Why let their opinions count on matters they are not able to directly control or relate to.

We all play the game. We all share an equal right to have our opinions voiced. I dare say you have never heard of or played me and I have few kills. But i am a DS pilot. Try getting 75 000 kills or a great KDR doing only that. Whatever measure you try to use to gauge skill or worth you exclude people.

It is dumb to act that way, I mean a good idea is a good idea no matter who comes up with it but I do see your point
What I think is best and what I try to do is handle these things on a case by case basis, if I disagree with a person in one thread but really like an idea or post they have in another Im not going to let that earlier negative interaction blind me
And using something like hours spent or K/D ratio is even worse since its not even acknowledging them as a person, just a preconceived notion due to some numbers that dont really mean anything in the long run

Did I say only those? I said it would be part of a measuring stick.

I think playing the game as much as cubs does gives you more efficacy than the guy with 800 likes and 2k kills. That's really the tl;dr and like the OP states,

I see.

If a person came in from open beta or launch and has opinions with such low experience it would need a second looking at - but there's no reason what so ever to disregard his post for this reason alone. It would fall unto us vets to validate his claims and responses and properly trol.. I mean educate him on any possible mistakes.

I can go through each one in the morning if you'd like. I know most of them and what they run.

Uh huh
How about win loss ratio, Im sure to you a player that wins most of their matches would have an opinion worth its weight in gold
Now lets just go check the leaderboard and see who is on type

My my this is impressive, his win loss ratio is 11857.00
But hmm this is odd, he only has 68 kills total

Thats gotta be a bug Im sure, someone with more than 10k battles under his belt surely would get far more kills than that unless there was some funny business afoot


I hope you get my point, people will lie cheat and sell their own mothers when it comes to leaderboard rankings and using them to seriously judge a players worth or how much credence to give their opinion is a joke

Uh huh
How about win loss ratio, Im sure to you a player that wins most of their matches would have an opinion worth its weight in gold
Now lets just go check the leaderboard and see who is on type

My my this is impressive, his win loss ratio is 11857.00
But hmm this is odd, he only has 68 kills total

Thats gotta be a bug Im sure, someone with more than 10k battles under his belt surely would get far more kills than that unless there was some funny business afoot


I hope you get my point, people will lie cheat and sell their own mothers when it comes to leaderboard rankings and using them to seriously judge a players worth or how much credence to give their opinion is a joke

I would say Likes are a better way to judge if a person knows what he's talking about around here. Check the top 20 most liked people and see if you'd listen to there advice or opinion.

*Flashes his likes*

*creates more alts so he can like his own comments*

I think it's best to not judge a person at all from stats but by how we ourselves take to his comments. These boards are quite active - if a newbie comes a long and spouts non-sense he always gets trolled into submission. A good example is a thread on page 1, "Why didn't CCP reset everything on launch." or some crap. Vets will point out his bad logic and his KDR/Kills have nothing to do with our responses to him.

I would say Likes are a better way to judge if a person knows what he's talking about around here. Check the top 20 most liked people and see if you'd listen to there advice or opinion.

*Flashes his likes*

*creates more alts so he can like his own comments*

See I used to feel that way till I saw certain people going around posting nonsense...and not just in one place. literally going thread to thread to post some crap or like farm circlejerking.

I think it's best to not judge a person at all from stats but by how we ourselves take to his comments. These boards are quite active - if a newbie comes a long and spouts non-sense he always gets trolled into submission. A good example is a thread on page 1, "Why didn't CCP reset everything on launch." or some crap. Vets will point out his bad logic and his KDR/Kills have nothing to do with our responses to him.

I would say Likes are a better way to judge if a person knows what he's talking about around here. Check the top 20 most liked people and see if you'd listen to there advice or opinion.

*Flashes his likes*

This is ultimately the best way, sans the Like farmers part.

Take Arkena Wyrmpsire's posts in Feedback about Armor/Shields imbalances, for instance. The guy collected input, formulated new points, ran numbers, organized it all, and posted two very long and detailed threads about the issues surrounding it. But I don't think I've ever actually seen him in game, not on that character at least. I doubt he's in the top 250 anything, besides Useful Forum Posters.

you use the leaderboards for an assumption of ones charachter and ability

I think it is best to judge the idea, comment or critism on its own merits and not the source that produced it.

Even someone you perceive as an idiot can have a good idea occasionally.

Wait sinboto simmons is a scout? (says so on shottygo bang's scout registry thread (post uprising scout) The guy who is leading the QQ about the massdriver sucking in another thread uses it on scout suit? j/w i don't know...but knowing the proto weapon uses like 11-13 powergrid...and a scout suits low health doesn't seem to play to the strengths of a massdriver IMO. Maybe just because you did horribly as a heavy with nova knives doesn't inherently mean it's a bad weapon and broken...

which is why I said that it would be a factor, not the only factor. Obviously I know a person who doesn't play much may come up with the most amazing Planetary Concept idea I've heard of, or assert a brand new idea into a weapon balance thread no one had even considered, but most of the time you just get people with lots of likes throwing their weight around in nerf/buff threads spewing nonsense and insinuating they should be the authority on the subject and know the weapon better than the guy who performs at 5x their skill level and uses it enough to be on the top 250 list cause they know best, and there's no room for opinion outside of there's. It's a regression of amiable debate

You know, maybe a person who doesn't play as much, might have a different perspective, and a valid one as well.

You know, we aren't all kids on summer break.

I think you should judge a comment on the validity of that particular comment. If a comment can't stand on it's own, then it isn't worth much, no matter who says it. Incidentally, this is one of the principles of the scientific method. Judge by merit, not reputation, because reputation can be easily abused, and is a poor measure of merit.

I never contested that truth...did you read my comments? I apologize for not being more clear.

Thanks for being my 500th

I thought I was your 500th :(

Dafuq is going on here?

Edit: On a side note... quick, Croned is handing out free likes

Free likes for everyone!

If you keep posting I might exclude you

Lot of likes being throwin around here o.0