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Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 352	Posted - 2013.06.29 09:51:00 - [31] - Quote Cass Barr wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: I think it's best to not judge a person at all from stats but by how we ourselves take to his comments. These boards are quite active - if a newbie comes a long and spouts non-sense he always gets trolled into submission. A good example is a thread on page 1, "Why didn't CCP reset everything on launch." or some crap. Vets will point out his bad logic and his KDR/Kills have nothing to do with our responses to him. I would say Likes are a better way to judge if a person knows what he's talking about around here. Check the top 20 most liked people and see if you'd listen to there advice or opinion. Flashes his likes This is ultimately the best way, sans the Like farmers part. Take Arkena Wyrmpsire's posts in Feedback about Armor/Shields imbalances, for instance. The guy collected input, formulated new points, ran numbers, organized it all, and posted two very long and detailed threads about the issues surrounding it. But I don't think I've ever actually seen him in game, not on that character at least. I doubt he's in the top 250 anything, besides Useful Forum Posters. This is majorly true. I agree 100%. It's the like farmers who have all the nerf threads that have been killing my patience. But w/e the truth comes out like you said right?
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 248	Posted - 2013.06.29 12:50:00 - [32] - Quote I think it is best to judge the idea, comment or critism on its own merits and not the source that produced it. Even someone you perceive as an idiot can have a good idea occasionally.
Knightshade Belladonna G.R.A.V.E 380	Posted - 2013.06.29 13:05:00 - [33] - Quote you use the leaderboards for an assumption of ones charachter and ability
Rifter7 SyNergy Gaming EoN. 233	Posted - 2013.06.29 13:27:00 - [34] - Quote i dunno man.. its like these forums give off this constant whiney moaning sound from everyone bitching.. it's so hard to read this crap. i dunno how the gms and devs moderate this without getting a little bit depressed even. hey who wants to go make another thread about lavs? i dont think ccp heard us yet..
Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 354	Posted - 2013.06.29 14:54:00 - [35] - Quote Knightshade Belladonna wrote: you use the leaderboards for an assumption of ones charachter and ability See this is kinda what i'm talking about....this guy uses a politically charged concept like judging by leaderboards when in reality the truth is I never said any such thing. I never said to use any of the leaderboards to judge them, only their wrpoint acculumation over the last month and a half (since uprising hit) which can be learned from the info broker's top 250 players (because it's based off of wp accumulation over time).
Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 354	Posted - 2013.06.29 15:01:00 - [36] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: I think it is best to judge the idea, comment or critism on its own merits and not the source that produced it. Even someone you perceive as an idiot can have a good idea occasionally. which is why I said that it would be a factor, not the only factor. Obviously I know a person who doesn't play much may come up with the most amazing Planetary Concept idea I've heard of, or assert a brand new idea into a weapon balance thread no one had even considered, but most of the time you just get people with lots of likes throwing their weight around in nerf/buff threads spewing nonsense and insinuating they should be the authority on the subject and know the weapon better than the guy who performs at 5x their skill level and uses it enough to be on the top 250 list cause they know best, and there's no room for opinion outside of there's. It's a regression of amiable debate
Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 354	Posted - 2013.06.29 15:09:00 - [37] - Quote Wait sinboto simmons is a scout? (says so on shottygo bang's scout registry thread (post uprising scout) The guy who is leading the QQ about the massdriver sucking in another thread uses it on scout suit? j/w i don't know...but knowing the proto weapon uses like 11-13 powergrid...and a scout suits low health doesn't seem to play to the strengths of a massdriver IMO. Maybe just because you did horribly as a heavy with nova knives doesn't inherently mean it's a bad weapon and broken...
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 282	Posted - 2013.06.30 05:28:00 - [38] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Wait sinboto simmons is a scout? (says so on shottygo bang's scout registry thread (post uprising scout) The guy who is leading the QQ about the massdriver sucking in another thread uses it on scout suit? j/w i don't know...but knowing the proto weapon uses like 11-13 powergrid...and a scout suits low health doesn't seem to play to the strengths of a massdriver IMO. Maybe just because you did horribly as a heavy with nova knives doesn't inherently mean it's a bad weapon and broken... Jup I'm a scout through and through. Oh and the thread you speak of was a testing thread for a report the mass driver is fine(well not fine but certainly not underpowered a few tweaks to splash radius/damage would be appreciated but really not much to worry about) and I do very good with it if I do say so myself , despite the extra skills needed to even put the proto version on my cpu deprived butt ^.^. I get notifications from that thread from time to time too(just got one lol) so someone's keeping it aloft but it's not me anymore
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 282	Posted - 2013.06.30 05:32:00 - [39] - Quote Also to any planning to use a mass driver putting it on a scout is not the smartest thing to do lol
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 500	Posted - 2013.06.30 05:38:00 - [40] - Quote Well all I know is that I try to help out sometimes but eventually even when I'm trying to help someone decides to troll me or someone with no idea what he's talking about starts flaming me for my idea, whether it's good or bad. Now on the other hand I do have quite a few bad ideas lol. It doesn't mean I need to be flamed for throwing in my opinion/idea though.

Buster Friently Rosen Association 805	Posted - 2013.06.30 05:39:00 - [41] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: I think it is best to judge the idea, comment or critism on its own merits and not the source that produced it. Even someone you perceive as an idiot can have a good idea occasionally. which is why I said that it would be a factor, not the only factor. Obviously I know a person who doesn't play much may come up with the most amazing Planetary Concept idea I've heard of, or assert a brand new idea into a weapon balance thread no one had even considered, but most of the time you just get people with lots of likes throwing their weight around in nerf/buff threads spewing nonsense and insinuating they should be the authority on the subject and know the weapon better than the guy who performs at 5x their skill level and uses it enough to be on the top 250 list cause they know best, and there's no room for opinion outside of there's. It's a regression of amiable debate You know, maybe a person who doesn't play as much, might have a different perspective, and a valid one as well. You know, we aren't all kids on summer break. I think you should judge a comment on the validity of that particular comment. If a comment can't stand on it's own, then it isn't worth much, no matter who says it. Incidentally, this is one of the principles of the scientific method. Judge by merit, not reputation, because reputation can be easily abused, and is a poor measure of merit.
Zatara Rought TeamPlayers EoN. 372	Posted - 2013.06.30 05:44:00 - [42] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: I think it is best to judge the idea, comment or critism on its own merits and not the source that produced it. Even someone you perceive as an idiot can have a good idea occasionally. which is why I said that it would be a factor, not the only factor. Obviously I know a person who doesn't play much may come up with the most amazing Planetary Concept idea I've heard of, or assert a brand new idea into a weapon balance thread no one had even considered, but most of the time you just get people with lots of likes throwing their weight around in nerf/buff threads spewing nonsense and insinuating they should be the authority on the subject and know the weapon better than the guy who performs at 5x their skill level and uses it enough to be on the top 250 list cause they know best, and there's no room for opinion outside of there's. It's a regression of amiable debate You know, maybe a person who doesn't play as much, might have a different perspective, and a valid one as well. You know, we aren't all kids on summer break. I think you should judge a comment on the validity of that particular comment. If a comment can't stand on it's own, then it isn't worth much, no matter who says it. Incidentally, this is one of the principles of the scientific method. Judge by merit, not reputation, because reputation can be easily abused, and is a poor measure of merit. I never contested that truth...did you read my comments? I apologize for not being more clear.
Buster Friently Rosen Association 805	Posted - 2013.06.30 05:47:00 - [43] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: I think it is best to judge the idea, comment or critism on its own merits and not the source that produced it. Even someone you perceive as an idiot can have a good idea occasionally. which is why I said that it would be a factor, not the only factor. Obviously I know a person who doesn't play much may come up with the most amazing Planetary Concept idea I've heard of, or assert a brand new idea into a weapon balance thread no one had even considered, but most of the time you just get people with lots of likes throwing their weight around in nerf/buff threads spewing nonsense and insinuating they should be the authority on the subject and know the weapon better than the guy who performs at 5x their skill level and uses it enough to be on the top 250 list cause they know best, and there's no room for opinion outside of there's. It's a regression of amiable debate You know, maybe a person who doesn't play as much, might have a different perspective, and a valid one as well. You know, we aren't all kids on summer break. I think you should judge a comment on the validity of that particular comment. If a comment can't stand on it's own, then it isn't worth much, no matter who says it. Incidentally, this is one of the principles of the scientific method. Judge by merit, not reputation, because reputation can be easily abused, and is a poor measure of merit. I never contested that truth...did you read my comments? I apologize for not being more clear. Yeah, I read your comments. What I'm saying is, IMHO, you should base a post on the merits of that post alone. In other words, really, you should not even know who posted it. Even considering their "rank" is a bad idea. This is, of course, just my opinion. Other's are available
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 502	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:11:00 - [44] - Quote -Snip- Thanks for being my 500th
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 283	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:16:00 - [45] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: I think it's best to not judge a person at all from stats but by how we ourselves take to his comments. These boards are quite active - if a newbie comes a long and spouts non-sense he always gets trolled into submission. A good example is a thread on page 1, "Why didn't CCP reset everything on launch." or some crap. Vets will point out his bad logic and his KDR/Kills have nothing to do with our responses to him. I would say Likes are a better way to judge if a person knows what he's talking about around here. Check the top 20 most liked people and see if you'd listen to there advice or opinion. Flashes his likes See I used to feel that way till I saw certain people going around posting nonsense...and not just in one place. literally going thread to thread to post some crap or like farm circlejerking. That's down right pathetic, who would do such a thing? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=681790#post681790 Thanks for being my 500th I thought I was your 500th :(
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 505	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:18:00 - [46] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: SoTa PoP wrote: I think it's best to not judge a person at all from stats but by how we ourselves take to his comments. These boards are quite active - if a newbie comes a long and spouts non-sense he always gets trolled into submission. A good example is a thread on page 1, "Why didn't CCP reset everything on launch." or some crap. Vets will point out his bad logic and his KDR/Kills have nothing to do with our responses to him. I would say Likes are a better way to judge if a person knows what he's talking about around here. Check the top 20 most liked people and see if you'd listen to there advice or opinion. Flashes his likes See I used to feel that way till I saw certain people going around posting nonsense...and not just in one place. literally going thread to thread to post some crap or like farm circlejerking. That's down right pathetic, who would do such a thing? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=681790#post681790 Thanks for being my 500th I thought I was your 500th :( Sorry I read the wrong like lol. Thank you for being my 500th
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2089	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:53:00 - [47] - Quote Dafuq is going on here? Edit: On a side note... quick, Croned is handing out free likes
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 506	Posted - 2013.06.30 06:55:00 - [48] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Dafuq is going on here? Edit: On a side note... quick, Croned is handing out free likes Here have a free like..... Actually fk it anyone who posts gets a free like from me
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2091	Posted - 2013.06.30 07:02:00 - [49] - Quote Free likes for everyone!
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 511	Posted - 2013.06.30 07:03:00 - [50] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Free likes for everyone! If you keep posting I might exclude you

Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 2091	Posted - 2013.06.30 07:04:00 - [51] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Free likes for everyone! If you keep posting I might exclude you It's okay, I have reserves
SoTa PoP Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2898	Posted - 2013.06.30 07:26:00 - [52] - Quote Lot of likes being throwin around here o.0
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 296	Posted - 2013.06.30 14:12:00 - [53] - Quote SoTa PoP wrote: Lot of likes being throwin around here o.0 Like for ya sota just because I want to see ya hit 3000 And because you're one of the only imps I can honestly say isn't an arrogant kittin :P


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