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Zaria Min Deir
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.25 23:47:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Spademan wrote:voidfaction wrote:Those that play a free game and never spend money I call them leaches But are those very players like myself not a huge boon? Think about it, if I can come this far without paying, 26 million sp, fighting in the competitive scene, have access to all aspects of the game if I wish, then am I not a wonderful marketing tool? People like me and GMK are proof that the game isn't Pay to win, and no one wants a pay to win game. In other news: So Festivus is from that show, Seinfeld. Ya'll know it? You are right I should not have made is sound like it is such a bad thing. Did not really intend for it to sound like a bad thing. It was more in defense of the thinking someone who has a life and pays to keep up SP wise in game with some that have no life should not be counted high in the loyalty ranking. What is the loyalty ranking? The redline snipers have the KDR ranking. People who q-sync proto stomp pubs have the kills and wins ranking. So what is Loyalty? Loyal to the game? loyal to CPP? Loyal to one account? What should it be? One with nothing invested is more likely to quit on a whim and someone with money invested more likely to stay.
Loyalty, IMHO, is more measured in the willingness, no, desire, of exactly those with nothing to lose to come back, to keep coming back, in the face of continued disappointment, just for the sheer enjoyment of what little resembling a real game Dust is, and potentially the hope for better in the future. Much more than someone clinging to the idea that they might as well keep playing, just so they don't feel like they wasted all the money they "invested".
Generally speaking, a free to play game cannot attract enough paying customers without having a healthy enough playerbase to, you know, attract them. Dust would not have lasted for years without all those "leeches", good sir. And saying you didn't mean your choice of words to sound "like a bad thing" doesn't change the fact you chose that word. 
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.12.26 09:56:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:Zaria Min Deir wrote:Generally speaking, a free to play game cannot attract enough paying customers without having a healthy enough playerbase to, you know, attract them. Dust would not have lasted for years without all those "leeches", good sir. And saying you didn't mean your choice of words to sound "like a bad thing" doesn't change the fact you chose that word. How long would it last without the ones paying the bills good sir? Its a business to make money. Even a charity has to have someone paying the bills. One will always go back to a free lunch because it is free if they are hungry and don't want to pay for food. Loyal will pay(tip) when and what they can so the one serving the free food can keep serving it.
Good job on missing the point and making a baseless assumption at the same time.
Not in any way did I question the necessity of those willing to engage in microtransactions for the survival of a f2p game. I did assume that in a conversation among sensible people that wouldn't need to be spelled out. I simply pointed out that your so called leeches make up the numbers, keeping the game alive enough (as in, enough people playing) for those "paying the bills" to feel meaningful to do so. The point of a game like Dust, being an online multiplayer, is surely to have people to play with and against? And if that number of players was dried down to just the handful of people (comparitively) that are in a position and are willing to continiously put in significant amounts of cash...? Well. I'd certainly feel my time and money had been wasted.
Once again, you wish to count "Loyalty" in money spent only. I respectfully disagree, as I see a more diverse array of variables in play.
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.04.23 22:08:00 -
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Kaeru Nayiri wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:[...]not everyone does this. However, there is certainly a sufficient quantity of this stuff to make the environment hostile and it's generally why I consider this thread unsuitable for serious game discussion.
[...] Arkena, rather than argue against that I will only ask that, in that case, we endeavor to make the Barbershop a better place. I will also challenge anyone to find a place where there is NO such type of posts from time to time.
The issue is not even so much that this thread (at over 34k posts, not surprisingly) has seen all sorts of exhanges of not so friendly nature, it's the fact that such a clannish, off-topic thread is a place were serious balance and design decisions not only get discussed, but even decided on, with little to no regard for outside input or awareness... and then people who don't frequent The Locker Room are expected to know about not only certain upcoming changes, but specifically the arguments and rationale behind them somehow? It gets old, ok? 
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.04.23 22:22:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Nova Knife wrote:The utter filth that is this thread makes what got me removed from CPM0 look tame in comparison. Where the **** did you come from!?
It's better not to ask, I don't think you want to know... 
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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Zaria Min Deir
0uter.Heaven
Back and Forth
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Posted - 2015.04.23 22:40:00 -
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Kaeru Nayiri wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:*Skims through the last few pages* WTF? I don't even know whats going on anymore. Kaeru Nayiri wrote:
Just finished downloading the new Blazblue !! Time to grind out the new combos >:3
I love blazblue. EVO 2014 had a great match if you want to watch it. Grand Finals game, double reset into the 5th game. Sadly, won't be there this year. Guilty Gear will be though, and they're practically the same game. I still hope that Melty Blood pops up sometime again as a bonus within the next few years :( I know ! I watched it, EVO was ******* AWESOME THIS YEAR !!!! A bunch of my friends made the trip to be there. Maybe I'll go next time? Man that match was totally awesome. Galileo is a hero. I love guilty gear too, theyre quite different though. I still look forward to getting my ass kicked by you in Melty one of these days !!! Ruuuu, Y U NO Dust?
Have you considered installing the improved keyboard?
"Go Go Power Rangers!"
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