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Atikali Havendoorr
HERBGROWERS
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:29:00 -
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The game engine might be a problem, but not in that it is of low quality per se, but that it is not made to implement constant upgrades while running online.
Battlefield 4 sure looks very impressive, but it's a different type of game. There is no skill progression and not a million of different combinations that all effect movement and damage made and taken. While I don't know how CCP handles this, it could be very heavy on the engine. On the other hand, they have heavily dynamic and destructible environments. Then again, they work on the next gen platform. And most of all, DICE throw all effort in the same basket, and release it once, and then perhaps a few patches and DLC:s, and that's it. Dust is supposed to be upgraded for all eternity, more or less, which requires a very flexible and easy-going game engine and code. I doubt the Unreal engine (3) really is what CCP needs.
When DICE feels they're done with all Battlefield 4 within a certain timeframe, they move on to the next iteration and don't have to rely on anything previously made.
Nice to see my old neighboring office building in full activity :) |
Atikali Havendoorr
HERBGROWERS
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Posted - 2013.06.26 18:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Certainly not. I wanted PvZ 2 not Garden Warfare. You can get Garden warfare if you like. It's called Eufloria. Good one, eh? It's actually not a true joke. Check it out on Playstation store. Nice ambient music. |
DEVILJIN 49
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.26 23:31:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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Roger RAMJETjr
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:36:00 -
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IWS is soo cute defending dust and calling bf and planetside bad games. Lol
ROFL LMFAO seriously dust>bf4 & planetside ha |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:39:00 -
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WillieMo wrote:Crash Monster wrote:I think we're seeing the difference between money and indie.
That said, I'd like to see those aspects improved... but I don't know where they fall on they whiny troll priority list around these parts. Dude you are on here every day, day to night. Do you ever leave your pc? Fanboi on another level. Any ways yes the game is boring and everyone besides evetards are leaving dust. Just look at the numbers. We dont need another youtube video showcasing it, as ccp knows there in trouble, that is why all the dev blogs are streaming out all of a sudden. Oh and I went back to planetside
I must be doing something right if I'm making enemies! |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:44:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:Rusty Shaklefurd wrote:Battlefield4 is the future of FPS on the PS3/PS4.
Stopped reading here. Enjoy your EA game. Friends don't let friends play Borg games. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:52:00 -
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Agreed BF4 is not only the future of FPS, but the future for all games. Thing is most developers are lazy and use the crappy Unreal Engine. Some are very good with it though, like Irrational did with Bioshock Infinite. Graphics are not the best but the game is a beauty. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:53:00 -
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EA is making SWBF3, so 'cysed fo' that 8D |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.27 01:59:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:D3LTA Blitzkrieg II wrote:BATTLEFIELD 4 cant offer the in game economy and character progression that DUST has, n bf4 will divide its community with old skool DLC n map packs. n most likely end up with admins team stacking on private servers we're still wating on that economy tho. so much of this "persistence" that dust hypes up is just not there. it would be best for them to add stuff such as economy before they hype it up so much. ppl have heard of dust but when you tell them, well that kinda stuff hasn't been added yet there like well WTF then...
Economy > large scale warfare
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
265
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Posted - 2013.06.27 02:06:00 -
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Rusty Shaklefurd wrote:Everyone should watch this video and take note... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOFuGEL2PQ4I have been nothing but an advocate for Dust514, but yesterday I cranked up my headphones and went back to battlefield3 expansion packs. CCP take note of your competition.... Battlefield4 is the future of FPS on the PS3/PS4. The Unreal engine cant compete and its silly to think that its even close. As i heard bullets zipping past my head... concrete crumbling around me as I slid into cover all I could think was that in Dust the Shotgun sounds like you are throwing a dodgeball at someone... and falling sounds like crunching celery. *sigh*. I dont want to be grim because the eve world and lore is awesome, and I enjoy dust character development... The question is, if Dust lacks the blockbuster game graphics/sound how do you beat that gameplay experience.... what about NUMBERS!!! Not total numbers of people playing ... Number of people per match. Games like Mag and joint Ops were awesome because of the number of people in one match at one time. These massive sandbox battlegrounds made up for the crappy graphics. in 64 v 64 or 100 v 100... having 10 people sitting in MCC wouldn't matter as much. in a 16v16 match having 6 people in MCC kills your team and makes it not fun. The way I look at it. Dust has until October 2013 to really push out something new and innovative or they risk losing more bunnies like myself to frostbite 3. Fanboy or not you can't deny the irresistibility of these graphics, sound and game mechanics. Just some observations from an old gamer. What do you guys think? This for me is a growing reality.
I love the universe of Dust, I like the promise of our guys in the skies flying out players from planet to planet, district to district, system to system.
That I can call in bunker levelling orbitals, enemy finding scans,etc.
However.... biggest issue I find is the potential of the engine. Unreal 3 has been out for decade/s but the issue is that it can keep up with the newer engines.
Dust has the potential for such immersice and player created content to flll up its universe, to enthral players....however its execution falls short of the promised level quite significantly.
I would be happy if Dust went offline or X years so CCP could advance down that 5 year plan without the fans and players who love and support this game having to suffer through all of this finally making them jaded and hateful. |
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CuuCH Crusher
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.27 02:11:00 -
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AAAAAAND Then you get kick by some douche because you were doing to well. Don't deny it. It happens all the time in BF3. Admins are given way too much power. If BF4 is anything like BF3 then I just can't support it. Don't get me wrong the game looks great. But I'd rather play something where I don't have to worry about making the admin cry. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.27 02:31:00 -
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I don't like military shooters; seems a waste to replicate real life when you have the power to create anything in a game. I don't like low health shooters
BF4 looks awesome though, 60 frames per second, 64 player battles, destructible environments, great graphics. Those are all great features and all, but nothing really innovative.
I don't get all the "fanboy" accusations, its not like any of us are satisfied with the state of the game, most of us are actually unhappy with the current state. EVE started out kind of crappy as well, and it improved significantly and kept growing over the years. |
McFurious
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.27 04:03:00 -
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I lost interest in standard FPS games once I bought a Merc Pack during closed beta. BF4 and any of the other games have little of anything that makes me want to purchase them.
I guess I'm a fanboy. Playing other FPS games just feels hollow and pointless. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:09:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:AAAAAAND Then you get kick by some douche because you were doing to well. Don't deny it. It happens all the time in BF3. Admins are given way too much power. If BF4 is anything like BF3 then I just can't support it. Don't get me wrong the game looks great. But I'd rather play something where I don't have to worry about making the admin cry.
I always thought of it as a badge of honor getting kicked from some douche's private server for kicking their butts. Besides, you can avoid those servers if you want to by playing the dice servers instead. |
AlleyKatPr0
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.06.27 11:45:00 -
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Found this on LevelCap's gaming Youtube Channel.
It's interesting to see the level of detail and sheer depth the environments have in this game, and I'm finding it hard to think of another game which has this.
You may not like the battlefield series. You may even hate the battlefield series. But I dare you to not be impressed with the Frostbite technology.
Prove me wrong. |
Rusty Shaklefurd
Couch Legion
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:52:00 -
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CuuCH Crusher wrote:AAAAAAND Then you get kick by some douche because you were doing to well. Don't deny it. It happens all the time in BF3. Admins are given way too much power. If BF4 is anything like BF3 then I just can't support it. Don't get me wrong the game looks great. But I'd rather play something where I don't have to worry about making the admin cry.
Well in Dust you are going to get kicked in the lobby... Not sure if I like that as a solo player. |
Recognizer XIII
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.28 16:04:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:But, looking at this video, battlefield 4 will probably be my "sp capped" game of choice, until dust is further developed.
No matter what, I'm sticking with dust. All this game needs is time, patience, player loyalty, and players willing to help give feedback and bug reports (we may be out of beta, but the game is buggy enough that we still have beta-player responsibilities)
The vets need to stop roflstomping on new players in academy and normal matches .. nothing turns players off more than having a 0/10+ K/D ratio nt that i've ever had 1 but i've seen alot of matches where its basically been 3 ppl with 10+ kills and every1 else with 1/2 ... yes you have proto gear, yes you're very good now let the newer players actually have some fun so they get interested and want to play it more and stay long enough to earn sp and increase the player base .. matchmaking needs fixing desperately above all else .. vets playing other vets would make their matches alot more enjoyable and challenging and new players v new players can actually have a chance to learn the game rather than getting annihalated by someone jumping around with a shotgun or a flaylock pistol 1 hitting everyone whilst barely having their shields taken down
Yeah yeah i'm waiting for a quit whining and quit reply but when player numbers are so low if you want changes to be made then you need new players to increase the player base otherwise who is to say CCP don;t just think .. we only have 4k players is this really worth all the hassle ? let's just ditch it and stick with Eve .... the more popular a game is the more likely the developers are to initiate fixes to the game and improve it .. if barely anyone is even playing the game it just costs them money and time |
Rusty Shaklefurd
Couch Legion
119
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Posted - 2013.06.29 13:21:00 -
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Has anyone tried to petition ANYTHING in Eve?!?!
CCP is stubborn and will stick to there guns. In the end pass or fail we wont be able to say they gave up on Dust.
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