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Dengru
Red Star. EoN.
31
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:09:00 -
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I think he's saying that those are other incindenary topics people avoid in polite discussion. But perhaps he's not and in that case ignore me and don't hesistate to share your opinions on Islam in this videogame forum. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
472
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:26:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:I'm well aware that this change has been done because some people complained that the female avatar walks like, well, a hooker. I have yet to see the new animation and frankly, I don't care about it, but what if instead of everyone having the same animation, we were allowed to change it Maybe some people actually like the current "sexy" animation(that includes women, not just perverts ) Well, I think people should have the freedom to choose their characters mannerisms. Like I don't know, have a "tough guy" pose/walk, or have my character always look bored out of his mind, maybe even have "flamboyant" animations, just stuff like that, so we can personalize our clones further. Obviously it shouldn't be a priority, but I think it would be neat Edit: P.S. just buy the animations of the Smackdown vs Raw guys or something
Battle clones shouldn't have a gender. What good do all those extra organs and fleshy parts do for a soldier who is not expected to live? If I were designing battle clones they would be neuter because I would only want to make one kind of clone and one sex of suit. We are battle clones not runway models. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
472
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:32:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Khal V'Rani wrote:Taking bets the rant will be because guy has girlfriend standing over shoulder telling him what to write... my girlfriend would probably tell me she doesn't view video game walk animations as the battlefront for civil rights. If it was, then I'm sure there should be tens of thousands of men lining up to complain that the image of male game models being stocky and muscular portrays a sexist stereotype gender image for men that most of their 150lb bodies/genetics can't live up to. Or that working out is too hard, or they have X medical condition and this is demeaning and objectifying or what have you. Where's the representation for legal midgets or amputees? Not all humans fall into the range of 5-7 feet tall with all their arms, legs, fingers and toes. This reinforces the viewpoint that the human body should exist in some idealized media portrayal! What else am I missing?
Men are not allowed to be stereotyped, especially if they are 18 - 35 year old white males. All the worlds problems can be blamed on 18 - 35 year old white males. We are all homophobes, sexist, racist and bigots that deserve what we get. |
Nalhe Saldana
Syneptics Inc.
14
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:33:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:I'm well aware that this change has been done because some people complained that the female avatar walks like, well, a hooker. I have yet to see the new animation and frankly, I don't care about it, but what if instead of everyone having the same animation, we were allowed to change it Maybe some people actually like the current "sexy" animation(that includes women, not just perverts ) Well, I think people should have the freedom to choose their characters mannerisms. Like I don't know, have a "tough guy" pose/walk, or have my character always look bored out of his mind, maybe even have "flamboyant" animations, just stuff like that, so we can personalize our clones further. Obviously it shouldn't be a priority, but I think it would be neat Edit: P.S. just buy the animations of the Smackdown vs Raw guys or something Battle clones shouldn't have a gender. What good do all those extra organs and fleshy parts do for a soldier who is not expected to live? If I were designing battle clones they would be neuter because I would only want to make one kind of clone and one sex of suit. We are battle clones not runway models.
Boobs are there to distract the enemy |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1961
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:41:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:
Men are not allowed to be stereotyped, especially if they are 18 - 35 year old white males. All the worlds problems can be blamed on 18 - 35 year old white males. We are all homophobes, sexist, racist and bigots that deserve what we get.
The irony is strong in this one.... I like it. |
Malik loves Love
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:42:00 -
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lucky. that animation was becoming a REAL deal breaker for me |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1961
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:44:00 -
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Malik loves Love wrote:lucky. that animation was becoming a REAL deal breaker for me Question was there any particular reason it offended you? |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
123
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:45:00 -
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I was being facetious.
But I would be willing to bet most know some guy that once they're in a rl relationship they view their own self worth as dependant on being in that relationship, and will be completely owned by the other in it.
But back to topic... I think there should be male & female clones types. Females make better spys in a world full of guys. ;-) |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
473
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:54:00 -
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Nalhe Saldana wrote:The Robot Devil wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:I'm well aware that this change has been done because some people complained that the female avatar walks like, well, a hooker. I have yet to see the new animation and frankly, I don't care about it, but what if instead of everyone having the same animation, we were allowed to change it Maybe some people actually like the current "sexy" animation(that includes women, not just perverts ) Well, I think people should have the freedom to choose their characters mannerisms. Like I don't know, have a "tough guy" pose/walk, or have my character always look bored out of his mind, maybe even have "flamboyant" animations, just stuff like that, so we can personalize our clones further. Obviously it shouldn't be a priority, but I think it would be neat Edit: P.S. just buy the animations of the Smackdown vs Raw guys or something Battle clones shouldn't have a gender. What good do all those extra organs and fleshy parts do for a soldier who is not expected to live? If I were designing battle clones they would be neuter because I would only want to make one kind of clone and one sex of suit. We are battle clones not runway models. Boobs are there to distract the enemy
They are a distraction to me. Being a bubbling crock pot of testosterone I have a hard time peeling my eyes off the good stuff. At least I can't get fired for ogling. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
208
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:16:00 -
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I have raised this issue before but here it goes again. What is a point of having gender branded battle clones? How do you know the exact number of male/female clones being needed for mercs? If there is equal number of males/females in a team and males perform inferior to females in the battle they will start to respawn in female clones right? And they will wear male dropsuits... Or vice versa...
Imho the clones we use for battle are genderless and guttless. They don't eat, they don't excrete and they can't have sex with each other Only muscles and brain for moving that dropsuit around and some biogoo inside to supply limited energy for said muscles and brain. Where do our consciousness resides when we are back from battle? Maybe we are in a VR space?
This is very good for shedding our heavy burden of dividing world between females and males. But wait... there is still that body swapping consciousness and it's alleged gender. Weird... |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1962
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:19:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Where do our consciousness resides when we are back from battle? Maybe we are in a VR space?
In our real bodies, duh
The dude in the MCC and warbarge is really you. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
208
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:24:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Where do our consciousness resides when we are back from battle? Maybe we are in a VR space?
In our real bodies, duh The dude in the MCC and warbarge is really you. Then we should look like EVE capsuleers when not in the battle. I guess it will be changed up the roadmap |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1962
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:25:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Where do our consciousness resides when we are back from battle? Maybe we are in a VR space?
In our real bodies, duh The dude in the MCC and warbarge is really you. Then we should look like EVE capsuleers when not in the battle. I guess it will be changed up the roadmap Man, that is so far down the road |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
123
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:31:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:Where do our consciousness resides when we are back from battle? Maybe we are in a VR space?
In our real bodies, duh The dude in the MCC and warbarge is really you. Then we should look like EVE capsuleers when not in the battle. I guess it will be changed up the roadmap
I saw a video where some chick... Ahem... A female was configuring her dropsuit without her helmet on then it transfered to her dropping into battle. It had narration and all that from her perspective. I hope we'll have the option to get out of those suits in the mq in the future. I'd also like the ability to pan the camera a full 360 around my merc as well. Another thread though. |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
133
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:47:00 -
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"Don't-ya wish your Logi was Hot like me? Don't-ya" -Mikey |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
123
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:52:00 -
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My logi is female & Minny and she appreciates the shiney things we find when we go for walks in the park... |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
361
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:49:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:<_< >_> :-\
Where's surt on this?
+1 for customization
Sorry, I've been protecting the ladies over at last of us. Out of 52 survivors only 17 women remain.
*funny how the rest that died were guys*
What are you trying to imply good sir?!
Anyway, So a lady can't hold a rifle, be bad ass, and strut her stuff to bring the lads to the yard? I dare say that's sexism!
Apparently ladies the only safe haven for you to be your sexy self's will have to be in my MQ. This way shield maidens ------>
And to the rest of you.. GOOD DAY TO YOU! |
Fox Gaden
DUST University Ivy League
552
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:59:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Dust's female model dont even look like super soldiers. I dont know why game devs make such a big deal about putting in female characters for their female players and then half assing it by putting in a petite model with a noticeable size difference compared to their male counterparts. They look more like runway models and would break in combat.
If you're not gonna do it right, then dont do it at all is what I'm saying to prominent FPS devs. Those three solders who were kicked out of the Israeli army recently for posting nude photos of themselves posing with their assault rifles looked a lot like super models to me.
* I only say the censored images, and no, I donGÇÖt have links. |
Poplo Furuya
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:18:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:I have raised this issue before but here it goes again. What is a point of having gender branded battle clones? How do you know the exact number of male/female clones being needed for mercs? If there is equal number of males/females in a team and males perform inferior to females in the battle they will start to respawn in female clones right? And they will wear male dropsuits... Or vice versa... Imho the clones we use for battle are genderless and guttless. They don't eat, they don't excrete and they can't have sex with each other Only muscles and brain for moving that dropsuit around and some biogoo inside to supply limited energy for said muscles and brain. Where do our consciousness resides when we are back from battle? Maybe we are in a VR space? This is very good for shedding our heavy burden of dividing world between females and males. But wait... there is still that body swapping consciousness and it's alleged gender. Weird... I'd imagine part of the reason for the inclusion of all organs in a transient combat clone is to accommodate the brain's expectations.
The precise makeup of the brain probably ain't understood enough to make complicated minute adjustments. If it is they're probably still impractically finnicky. Altering it to be fine when in a body that's too alien to identify as a human body would be a greater hurdle than just meeting it's minimum expectations of what a human body encompasses.
If the brain rejects the body it's in as being it's own the results could be physiologically and psychologically traumatic.
Alternate explanation: it's a game and it being how it be is just a matter of it being the default way of things. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
4111
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:25:00 -
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So long as Gallente females stay sexy, I'm happy.
How good we Gallente look is just as important as how well we kill.
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
803
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:28:00 -
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I can't believe I even opened this thread in the first place... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1994
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:13:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:I can't believe I even opened this thread in the first place... You're a pervert and you know it |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
365
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:15:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:I can't believe I even opened this thread in the first place...
Hoping some one put some pics of eve women were we?
*you were hoping that*
alas..... I was. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
818
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:18:00 -
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I'm not admitting to anything... |
Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
15
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:36:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:I'm well aware that this change has been done because some people complained that the female avatar walks like, well, a hooker. I have yet to see the new animation and frankly, I don't care about it, but what if instead of everyone having the same animation, we were allowed to change it Maybe some people actually like the current "sexy" animation(that includes women, not just perverts ) Well, I think people should have the freedom to choose their characters mannerisms. Like I don't know, have a "tough guy" pose/walk, or have my character always look bored out of his mind, maybe even have "flamboyant" animations, just stuff like that, so we can personalize our clones further. Obviously it shouldn't be a priority, but I think it would be neat Edit: P.S. just buy the animations of the Smackdown vs Raw guys or something
OMG what??? They're even nerfing the "sexy walk"??? WHAT???
I'm done with this game. |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
47
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Posted - 2013.06.26 19:40:00 -
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If they ever include a cosmetic customization feature, you bet you butt they will charge for it every chance they gets. That's not a problem considering cosmetics do nothing for gameplay, so the extra developement will wish for payment for such services. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
14
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Posted - 2013.06.26 21:30:00 -
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Alarm: a woman just saw this thread.
No worries, as part of the super rare gamer-woman race, I actually have to LOL @ thinking female characters are meant to be played by female human beings.
I see a lot of games where there isn't any kind of customized animation for female characters. At least DUST got it. So far.
I might agree the current walk animation is exaggerated but I don't really mind it and I'm rather worried about looking like a gorilla. I like being "sexy" in a game, I'm a full armored mercenary already, I don't really want to look like a massive super soldier! What's the point in being a woman, then? lol.
If my clone's butt gets nerfed I would actually be mad at it :P
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Pandora Mars
Afterlife Overseers
16
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Posted - 2013.06.26 21:33:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Alarm: a woman just saw this thread.
No worries, as part of the super rare gamer-woman race, I actually have to LOL @ thinking female characters are meant to be played by female human beings.
I see a lot of games where there isn't any kind of customized animation for female characters. At least DUST got it. So far.
I might agree the current walk animation is exaggerated but I don't really mind it and I'm rather worried about looking like a gorilla. I like being "sexy" in a game, I'm a full armored mercenary already, I don't really want to look like a massive super soldier! What's the point in being a woman, then? lol.
If my clone's butt gets nerfed I would actually be mad at it :P
For God sake, listen to this woman! Keri for president! |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
319
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Posted - 2013.06.26 21:35:00 -
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As an Amarrian Lord, the idea of females on the battlefield utterly disgusts me.
The only place for a female in war is the bedchamber.
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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 RISE of LEGION
16
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Posted - 2013.06.26 21:38:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:As an Amarrian Lord, the idea of females on the battlefield utterly disgusts me.
The only place for a female in war is the bedchamber.
trololololol lololol lololooool GÖ¬ |
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