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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1939
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:30:00 -
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TheReaper852 wrote:Keep nerfing the AR and breaking the game. AR actually needs a lot of buffs to make it just feel like a real weapon and not some toy.
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The AR and flaylock are the only good weapons left in the game, nerf that and everything will be balanced. Oh wait, I think you didn't get the memo, this isn't supposed to be a twitch shooter. That thing were people don't die in 3 bullets? Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be.
Buff the AR?
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1939
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:36:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:This just in: longer TTK = bad game design 
A lot of that wouldn't really be a problem if they fixed aim and hit detection, but buffing weapons to make up for bad mechanics? That's just dumb  |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1940
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:43:00 -
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Disturbingly Bored wrote:TheReaper852 wrote:AR actually needs a lot of buffs to make it just feel like a real weapon and not some toy. To do this other guns needs buffs as well to keep up and be real weapons. So...buff all guns?  Oddly enough, CCP may be doing just that in 1.2. How about we all drop the nerf threads for a week and find out?
Hopefully they're smart enough to not buff the AR |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1941
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Posted - 2013.06.26 04:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:TheReaper852 wrote:AR actually needs a lot of buffs to make it just feel like a real weapon and not some toy. To do this other guns needs buffs as well to keep up and be real weapons. So...buff all guns? Oddly enough, CCP may be doing just that in 1.2. How about we all drop the nerf threads for a week and find out? Hopefully they're smart enough to not buff the AR They're only giving it an Absolute range beyond the falloff, which means that it'll do damage out further, but at a far higher penalty-per-meter.
I don't mind that, it'll happen to all weapons. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1943
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Posted - 2013.06.26 05:00:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:TheReaper852 wrote:AR actually needs a lot of buffs to make it just feel like a real weapon and not some toy. To do this other guns needs buffs as well to keep up and be real weapons. So...buff all guns? Yes. That was the problem when they killed the Tac rifles (which did need to be pulled back a bit, instead they got the ******* nerf hammer). They took the only gun in the game really worth using, and instead of pulling up everything, and pulling that back just an inch, to be fair in that way, they knocked it down to meet the other totally useless gun standards. It's like they're trying to carve out what everyone expects to be Michelangelo's David, but instead of using a chisel they're using a sledge hammer.
Me thinks you don't understand how balance works
All weapons suck = balance = no weapons suck
All weapons are good = balance= no weapons are good.
Now, if your problem is with long TTK (time to kill), then perhaps this game isn't your style
When you say the TAR was "the only gun in the game really worth using", you say it because it required a shorter TTK right? Well longer TTK's is specifically what we're going for here. Sorry to break the news to you. This is supposed to be a strafe shooter, bad hit detection and aiming ruin that, but it's what it's supposed to be. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1944
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Posted - 2013.06.26 05:22:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:
If you think the TTK right now is fine
Oh hell no, I miss chromosome.
Just pointing out that you saying that some weapon is "the only weapon in the game worth using" does imply there is a problem in regards to balance.
Obviously we don't want CoD level TKKs, but overly long TKKs are also a problem. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1949
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:37:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:dustwaffle wrote:I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI actually the coke is UP and you don't notice that because the sofa is so OP try coke and a chair
Chair... bro, does this look like a PC game to you? Have you gone mad??? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1952
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:44:00 -
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Michael Cratar wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:I just played a few matches using only Starter Fits. I have not spent 1 single skill point on AR. Still did ridiculously good in all of the matches I played tonight except 1.
AR is OP, Final Answer. AR IS NOT OP! Everything els just sucks.
Gee, that sounds like the AR is OP, the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1952
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:45:00 -
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Blasters have heat build up, ARs don't for what reason? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1952
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:47:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:dustwaffle wrote:I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI actually the coke is UP and you don't notice that because the sofa is so OP try coke and a chair Chair... bro, does this look like a PC game to you? Have you gone mad??? PC as in computer or Planetary Uselessness?
PC as in PC |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1952
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:47:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Delta 749 wrote:[quote=dustwaffle]I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI Dr Pepper and folding chairs are the only ones that take real skill to use
Dr. Pepper is balenced/quote]
Aye. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1952
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:51:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:
I have a Reclining Chair for gaming so...
P'shhh, I just hang from a tree
Like so http://babyanimalzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Baby-Sloth-Hanging.jpg , but on a tree. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1952
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:52:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Blasters have heat build up, ARs don't for what reason? IDK, CCP probably can't handle that many QQ threads
Tis true |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1954
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Posted - 2013.06.26 06:59:00 -
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Personally, my beverage of choice is Black Gold, 3/4 Dr. Pepper, and 1/4 Coke.
This is of course when I'm not drinking a Mike's Hard. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1954
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:06:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Personally, my beverage of choice is Black Gold, 3/4 Dr. Pepper, and 1/4 Coke.
This is of course when I'm not drinking a Mike's Hard. *Serious Note* Personally there is no need for that high of an amount of Dr. Pepper 1/4 Dr. Pepper will do fine with it's stronger flavor than coke
Which is why the coke is needed to coken it down.
I'm not trying to pepper the coke |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1955
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:11:00 -
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dustwaffle wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Personally, my beverage of choice is Black Gold, 3/4 Dr. Pepper, and 1/4 Coke.
This is of course when I'm not drinking a Mike's Hard. *Serious Note* Personally there is no need for that high of an amount of Dr. Pepper 1/4 Dr. Pepper will do fine with it's stronger flavor than coke Which is why the coke is needed to coken it down. I'm not trying to pepper the coke Coking the pepper > peppering the coke Get gud
Tis that not what I said? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1955
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:12:00 -
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Actually, I lied, I failed at geometery, so I just put 4/4 of both of them into a big gulp and then poor that into one of those mugs you keep in the freezer so the liquid... freezes. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1955
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:12:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:I'm starting a Chat channel called Beverages to discuss this while in game
Call it BJS
Bacon something and Soda  |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1955
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:15:00 -
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On a side note, the pizookie at BJ's is bombskies |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1955
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:16:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:I'm starting a Chat channel called Beverages to discuss this while in game Call it BJS Bacon something and Soda Make it then I'll join later tommorow or when ever class is ending. summer semester at college, always fun doing 16 week courses in 8 weeks
I'm pissed cause I missed inscriptions ...    |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1956
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Posted - 2013.06.26 07:19:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:If this was local chat which It looks like I'd tell you all good night and good luck
lol, we turned a fail thread into a win thread  |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1961
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:42:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:You don't want the AR nerfed, you want to have it remove from the game. Its very obvious now. The AR got a huge nerf in Uprising;
-Range
-Bullet spread
-Recoil
-Aiming accuracy ( Mouse Nerfed )
If you nerf the AR anymore, it will be easier to just remove it from the game altogether, because no one will use it any longer.
None of those were touched, but keep telling yourself that |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1961
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Posted - 2013.06.26 08:54:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:You don't want the AR nerfed, you want to have it remove from the game. Its very obvious now. The AR got a huge nerf in Uprising;
-Range
-Bullet spread
-Recoil
-Aiming accuracy ( Mouse Nerfed )
If you nerf the AR anymore, it will be easier to just remove it from the game altogether, because no one will use it any longer. None of those were touched, but keep telling yourself that Sorry dude, but i do notice changes like this.. you may fool a kid, but you can't fool a FPS veteran.
Interesting.... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1962
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:37:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Tharak Meuridiar wrote:The problem isn't so much that the AR is OP as that too many other guns are UP.
The AR toting masses don't like anything that can kill them, so as soon as a weapon that can be competitive with the AR emerges they fill the forums with tears until it gets nerfed.
For instance right now. I get killed by an LAV about once for every 25-50 times I die, whereas ARs account for about 70% of those deaths.
Yet this is the first "AR is OP" thread I have seen, while I've seen more anti-"murder taxi" threads than I can shake a stick at.
Here's my solution:
De-nerf the shotgun, de-nerf the mass driver, de-nerf the laser rifle, buff the plasma cannon, add proto tanks, keep LAVs as they are.
Tell the AR toting masses to freaking adapt, because this isn't meant to be a one gun game. The AR toting masses are about 70% of Dust 514 population... go a head, make the AR unuseful, i will come back to laugh at your faces when the player base drops bellow 1000. You can't force people to use the Weapon YOU like, like it or not the AR is a popular weapon in ALL FPS games.
At no point in time did he suggest a nerf to the AR, oh, yeah I guess no longer being the only useful gun in the game is considered a nerf now? Geez you're dumb  |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1963
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Posted - 2013.06.26 09:46:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:
I just explaining the reason why people gets kill by AR's more often than any other weapon.. no Nerfing or "Buffing" is going to change that. You can buff every other weapon as much as you like, people will still prefer the Assault Riffle.
Which is fine, if everyone wants to use an AR then they should, but because they like the playstyle, not because it's the only thing that isn't crap.
Also I find it funny CCP used "numbers" to justify their last round of nerfs, and yet, somehow they completely ignored the AR. MD? Popular, nerf it. HMG? Popular, nerf it. Laser? Popular, nerf it. AR? Most popular gun in the game, leave as is... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2012
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Posted - 2013.06.27 03:38:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Relyt R wrote:OP is like a reverse PDIGGY I just noticed this, IDK if it is a compliment or an insult.
It is most certainly not a compliment |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
2012
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Posted - 2013.06.27 03:39:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Colonel Killar wrote:Chinduko wrote:Cosgar wrote:Take the AR out of the game, what's the best weapon in the game? Now put the AR back, what's the best weapon in the game now? That's a good point. I'd wager the Scrambler rifle is almost as good as the AR and would become the weapon of choice. For the most part, however, I consider the SR to be an AR. It's pretty close anyway. It is a AR but a balanced one with advantages and disadvantages. What exactly are its disadvantages? I would like to honestly know this.
Low armor damage, heat buildup, harder to aim than an AR... |
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