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Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 38	Posted - 2013.06.26 04:52:00 - [1] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: Armies in general through history rely on a standard weapon. In Dust, it is the AR. Specialty weapons offer advantages and disadvantages over this baseline and are utilized in a situational manner in support of unit requirements. Also, cry more noob!!! jk puts loremaster hat on Plasma-Based blaster weapons such as the AR are short range high damage weapons not these mid-range killing machines that they are.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 38	Posted - 2013.06.26 05:02:00 - [2] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I just played a few matches using only Starter Fits. I have not spent 1 single skill point on AR. Still did ridiculously good in all of the matches I played tonight except 1. AR is OP, Final Answer. I don't know if OP is the right word, but it works TOO well in every situation. I agree the AR's(AR,ScR,etc) all need to be semi-niche weapons but also having high amounts of utility as well.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 39	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:35:00 - [3] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI actually the coke is UP and you don't notice that because the sofa is so OP try coke and a chair
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:39:00 - [4] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: dustwaffle wrote: I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI actually the coke is UP and you don't notice that because the sofa is so OP try coke and a chair Chair... bro, does this look like a PC game to you? Have you gone mad??? PC as in computer or Planetary Uselessness?
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:40:00 - [5] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: dustwaffle wrote: I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI actually the coke is UP and you don't notice that because the sofa is so OP try coke and a chair Sorry forgot to mention that I was also making a bacon sandwich at the time so it might not have been the sofa that was OP Also, don't be ridiculous, coke is never UP. well the lack of information makes coming to a reasonable conclusion difficult
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:42:00 - [6] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: dustwaffle wrote: I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI Dr Pepper and folding chairs are the only ones that take real skill to use Dr. Pepper is balenced, Mr. Pibb is UP, are these folding chairs with or without padding?
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:42:00 - [7] - Quote Michael Cratar wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: I just played a few matches using only Starter Fits. I have not spent 1 single skill point on AR. Still did ridiculously good in all of the matches I played tonight except 1. AR is OP, Final Answer. AR IS NOT OP! Everything els just sucks. AR's need to be miniature blasters that is all.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:44:00 - [8] - Quote Altina McAlterson wrote: Don't know if anyone's said this yet but I've read too many AR is OP threads to deal with another one. The AR isn't OP as much as every other weapon is garbage. Mass Drivers have an issue with hits registering Plasma Cannons are just just garbage in general Laser Rifles might as well just have been removed from the game with how bad CCP screwed them up. So what they need to do is fix the rest of the crap, leave the AR alone and then we'll see what it stands. true but, AR's are miniature blasters and should be like blasters high damage low range ScR can take mid range from the AR
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:47:00 - [9] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: dustwaffle wrote: I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI Dr Pepper and folding chairs are the only ones that take real skill to use Dr. Pepper is balenced, Mr. Pibb is UP, are these folding chairs with or without padding? The only thing that will save Dust 514 is folding chairs WITH padding, a cupholder for my coke, and a foldable tray for bacon sandwich and the issue of UP Mr. Pibb or UP 7-Up . What is on the bacon sandwich? I want your bacon sandwich fitting.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 40	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:48:00 - [10] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: dustwaffle wrote: I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI actually the coke is UP and you don't notice that because the sofa is so OP try coke and a chair Chair... bro, does this look like a PC game to you? Have you gone mad??? PC as in computer or Planetary Uselessness? PC as in PC I have a Reclining Chair for gaming so...

Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 41	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:49:00 - [11] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: dustwaffle wrote: I was sitting on my sofa playing dust while drinking coke, and topped 3 games last night, coming no lower than 4th in all my games. Clearly sofas and coke are OP. NERF SOFA!! NERF COKE!! BUFF PEPSI Dr Pepper and folding chairs are the only ones that take real skill to use Dr. Pepper is balenced, Mr. Pibb is UP, are these folding chairs with or without padding? Only noobs use padded folding chairs Ugh, I feel dirty every time I type noob good job, being a REAL man
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 41	Posted - 2013.06.26 06:51:00 - [12] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Blasters have heat build up, ARs don't for what reason? IDK, CCP probably can't handle that many QQ threads
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 41	Posted - 2013.06.26 07:02:00 - [13] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: dustwaffle wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Dr Pepper and folding chairs are the only ones that take real skill to use Dr. Pepper is balenced, Mr. Pibb is UP, are these folding chairs with or without padding? The only thing that will save Dust 514 is folding chairs WITH padding, a cupholder for my coke, and a foldable tray for bacon sandwich and the issue of UP Mr. Pibb or UP 7-Up . What is on the bacon sandwich? I want your bacon sandwich fitting. Clearly you are a non Mr. Pibb/7-Up using scrub. Everyone knows 7-up is extremely powerful in the right hands, while Mr. Pibb shines in its intended element. Coke on the other hand is versatile at all ranges but have no obvious strengths or weaknesses. MY BACON SANDWICH WAS FITTED WITH THE FOLLOWING: a/c/g/mK.0 High slots: 1x Bread load end, lightly toasted with a sprinkle of sesame seeds 1x Fried egg Mid slots: 2x bacon rashers fried to a crisp 2x bacon rashers fried to chewiness 1x Tomato Low slots 1x Bread load end, lightly toasted (NO SESAME SEEDS) This is clearly balanced and should NEVER be touched, or I will quit the game Mr. Pibb is UP look at Dr. Pepper, it has the same role but yet no one uses Mr. Pibb I had an Bacon sandwich earlier too but mine was on sliced white bread, toasted with a hashbrown put on the sandwich to absorb the yolk
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 41	Posted - 2013.06.26 07:04:00 - [14] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Personally, my beverage of choice is Black Gold, 3/4 Dr. Pepper, and 1/4 Coke. This is of course when I'm not drinking a Mike's Hard. Serious Note Personally there is no need for that high of an amount of Dr. Pepper 1/4 Dr. Pepper will do fine with it's stronger flavor than coke
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 42	Posted - 2013.06.26 07:10:00 - [15] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Personally, my beverage of choice is Black Gold, 3/4 Dr. Pepper, and 1/4 Coke. This is of course when I'm not drinking a Mike's Hard. Serious Note Personally there is no need for that high of an amount of Dr. Pepper 1/4 Dr. Pepper will do fine with it's stronger flavor than coke Which is why the coke is needed to coken it down. I'm not trying to pepper the coke Maybe in your area the markets are that so pepper is cheaper than coke but where I'm from coke is about 75% the cost of pepper so it's easier to go with high coke low pepper
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 42	Posted - 2013.06.26 07:11:00 - [16] - Quote I'm starting a Chat channel called Beverages to discuss this while in game
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 42	Posted - 2013.06.26 07:14:00 - [17] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: I'm starting a Chat channel called Beverages to discuss this while in game Call it BJS Bacon something and Soda Make it then I'll join later tommorow or when ever class is ending. summer semester at college, always fun doing 16 week courses in 8 weeks
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 42	Posted - 2013.06.26 07:17:00 - [18] - Quote If this was local chat which It looks like I'd tell you all good night and good luck
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 46	Posted - 2013.06.26 16:41:00 - [19] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: Rogatien Merc wrote: Armies in general through history rely on a standard weapon. In Dust, it is the AR. Specialty weapons offer advantages and disadvantages over this baseline and are utilized in a situational manner in support of unit requirements. Also, cry more noob!!! jk puts loremaster hat on Plasma-Based blaster weapons such as the AR are short range high damage weapons not these mid-range killing machines that they are. ScR and the upcoming CoR are mid range and the GauR is long range And CCP have said Gameplay > Lore Go back to Eve Lore still needs to be there or there will be no reason to have racial suits or weapons. Game play my be more important than lore but without lore the game is even more boring. The differences in weapons and suits add to the game and without lore the game is superficial and bland. Yes game play is the most important thing but lore adds fun and diversity and without those two things we will have a game where all weapons do all things to all people. Go back to COD. Lore is fluff What adds fun and diversity is game modes, weapon variety, vehicle variety, map variety, aesthetic customization, weapon customization, vehicle customization, I could go on And while yes lore does give a bit of a jumping off point for some of that trucks and shotguns in space are not ground breaking unique ideas CCP thought up and should be functionally similar to other games not due to a lack of ideas but because they were done right and you dont fix what isnt broken Go back to EVE and cry to your spreadsheets still the AR (and it's long range) is only a place holder for the Gauss, and Combat Rifles then the Damage needs buffed and Range needs reduced.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 46	Posted - 2013.06.26 16:49:00 - [20] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Fearless Speech wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Well, this went places. I really only intended it to be a vehicle for an OPinion and to provide some entertainment (I'd call that an OP success). I agree though, it isn't that the AR should be nerfed, though the other "niche" weapons should be made stronger within their niches. All weapons should have a "competitive sweet spot" in which they excel. @Miguel lol, you're funny Oh, and I too belong to the MD Master Race, I'd quiet down if I were a member of any of the other diluted soda race, you might end up sent to the gulags like those dirty Mr Pibb drinkers. Jawohl Mein Dew It kind of confuses me that LR, AR and SCR are in different skill trees. I feel like all of these weapons are flavors of the same idea, and I really doubt my personal capacity to reload a clip fed weapon changes because of the amo in the box. Have you noticed how similar SCR and AR reload animations are? Similarly, scrambler pistol and flaylock seem rather close. A rework on this might be hard to balance (ex: heavy suit users wouldn't obviously get a help here, and they already kinda suffer on this front as has been pointed out in the comando discussion thread). In general, I really like the idea of skilling into what you want to do, and the importance of making good decisions with SP. But... this seems a little fine tuned. And grouping a few weapons together would add a little flexibility that might help with player retention (today I want to do y instead of x). Mountain Dew is the Word, the Truth, and the Light. Suffer not the unbeliever to live. My wonder is if the Combat Rifle, Gauss Rifle and Scrambler Rifle are going to get the same selection of skills as the Assault Rifle. Will there be Combat Rifle Sharpshooter, Gauss Rifle Sharpshooter and why isn't there Scrambler Rifle Sharpshooter (sorry if there is, I haven't noticed, I don't usually use the AR variants and won't until the Combat Rifle is released)? If they are the other racial variants of the Assault Rifle, why don't they have the same depth of skill? And Mountain Dew defeated Mellow Yellow that day, scattering the defeated drinkers of that foul brew among the four winds. --1Dew 13:37 nice job with the section of Dew. I personally say MD's are perfect with MD. The AR and ScR (and eventually the GR and CR) need to be equal with the AR both in use and in average Effectiveness. I want the AR to be different than every ther AR in every other game give it a small advantage and weakness like the ScR's Charge and Overheat features

Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 46	Posted - 2013.06.26 16:52:00 - [21] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Well, this went places. I really only intended it to be a vehicle for an OPinion and to provide some entertainment (I'd call that an OP success). I agree though, it isn't that the AR should be nerfed, though the other "niche" weapons should be made stronger within their niches. All weapons should have a "competitive sweet spot" in which they excel. @Miguel lol, you're funny Oh, and I too belong to the MD Master Race, I'd quiet down if I were a member of any of the other diluted soda race, you might end up sent to the gulags like those dirty Mr Pibb drinkers. Jawohl Mein Dew Why must MD ally themselves with Pepsi argueably the weakest variety of pop/soda/coke(to those in the southern US every soda is coke)
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 50	Posted - 2013.06.26 21:56:00 - [22] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Take the AR out of the game, what's the best weapon in the game? Now put the AR back, what's the best weapon in the game now? after losing the AR probably (barely) the Assault SMG , then after returning the AR the the AR goes back to being dominant.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2013.06.26 21:57:00 - [23] - Quote Chinduko wrote: Cosgar wrote: Take the AR out of the game, what's the best weapon in the game? Now put the AR back, what's the best weapon in the game now? That's a good point. I'd wager the Scrambler rifle is almost as good as the AR and would become the weapon of choice. For the most part, however, I consider the SR to be an AR. It's pretty close anyway. It is a AR but a balanced one with advantages and disadvantages.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2013.06.26 22:00:00 - [24] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: TheReaper852 wrote: Keep nerfing the AR and breaking the game. AR actually needs a lot of buffs to make it just feel like a real weapon and not some toy. To do this other guns needs buffs as well to keep up and be real weapons. (Don't expect all guns to be equal it just won't happen and in some cases shouldn't happen.) Don't believe me? Look at the player count. The only buff everything needs is a global range buff, and that can wait until the maps are big enough. I agree the AR range is fine but once maps grow AR range needs to stay the same with only Sniper, Scrambler, FG, LR, ranges increasing to accomidate long range combat.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 51	Posted - 2013.06.26 22:02:00 - [25] - Quote Anmol Singh wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: How about it is not overpowered but... it is where it belongs? How bout not talking random sht and actually explaining... He is a poitican he can't help it.
Colonel Killar DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 57	Posted - 2013.06.27 02:11:00 - [26] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Colonel Killar wrote: Why must MD ally themselves with Pepsi argueably the weakest variety of pop/soda/coke(to those in the southern US every soda is coke) Sloth, Waffle, where are you? this is becoming far too of topic form our food and beverage discussion. I see this thread went from ** to something resembling cokey goodness then back to ** again in my absence speaking of that Cherry Coke is to Coke what the Tac AR is to the AR. do you agree?