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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
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Posted - 2013.06.25 01:34:00 -
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They're too good... at everything!!! |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2074
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Posted - 2013.06.25 01:40:00 -
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Funny part is, this is actually true.
CCP Remnant wrote:We'll be making some adjustments to the rifle ranges in the near future. We're currently testing the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle internally (the two missing archetypes). Within the assault rifle class the four weapon types will break down as follows:
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range
Keep in mind though that long range for an assault rifle is not equivalent to long range for a sniper rifle, so while they will adhere to existing category definitions don't expect massive differences in the distances between these weapons A lot of the original assault rifle variants (Breach, Burst, Tactical) were created to fill the gaps these newer weapons will fill and so mightGÇÖve felt out of place (not to mention we just plain made mistakes with some of them). The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased and weGÇÖll be releasing an iteration of the Tactical Assault Rifle with a smaller clip and much wider hip-fire spread making it less effective in CQC. If that change alone does not prove enough we will walk the damage of the TAR down slowly. No big, sweeping changes this time.
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Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
46
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:09:00 -
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Yes, we know. That's why so many use it. It easily kills with few shots and has a sizable clip, but whatever. I can't afford to stress myself out over something I can't change. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3994
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:14:00 -
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I make great kill with weapon. You no balance.
Has good all around, much appreciate.
I do find it amusing though, that ultimately my specialization choice was dictated by CCPs design and balancing philosophies, not by which playstyle I enjoyed the most.
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
557
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:19:00 -
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Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
888
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:21:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything
This is where I stopped reading. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1890
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:23:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything What did I tell you Fiend |
IrishWebster
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:23:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:They're too good... at everything!!!
You're a ******* idiot. I hate to flame you so flagrantly, but have you ever USED all of the assault rifles? If you have, and you still think this way... you're an idiot. If you HAVEN'T, and you think your opinion is credible or justified... you're still an idiot.
Sincerely,
-Irish |
IrishWebster
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:25:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything
You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. +1. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
557
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:25:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything What did I tell you Fiend
Yeah, snide remarks instead of bringing up something to counter my points Just what I expected really |
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IrishWebster
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:26:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything This is where I stopped reading.
You're sinking in the same boat as the OP. If I could hit you with a shovel, I would. Right in the teeth. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2075
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:30:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything This is where I stopped reading. We don't have cloned soldiers and spawn points in real life. Look, I can do it too... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1890
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:38:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything What did I tell you Fiend Yeah, snide remarks instead of bringing up something to counter my points Just what I expected really This isn't a really "this weapon is Op thread"
I was just proving a point a to Dust Fiend, point being that people don't take it well when others make such accusations.
IrishWebster, you should consider seeing a counselor |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1890
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:38:00 -
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IrishWebster wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. +1. He may be, but you are neither |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3995
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:40:00 -
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I'm too tired for your shenanigans.
This game gives me a headache.
This community gives me a stomach ache.
Gonna kill a few more reds then say **** you DUST nuggets, I'm goin home. |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
306
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:42:00 -
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LOL @ AR is OP thread
INB4 (Dust is becoming C0D) (ARs take no skill) (AR514) (CoD Clone) (Bunny Hops R OP) |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
557
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:47:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything What did I tell you Fiend Yeah, snide remarks instead of bringing up something to counter my points Just what I expected really This isn't a really "this weapon is Op thread" I was just proving a point a to Dust Fiend, point being that people don't take it well when others make such accusations. IrishWebster, you should consider seeing a counselor
Actually people dont take it well when they see the umpteenth "Waaah X is OP" thread and it starts to fray |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
310
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:50:00 -
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I am a disgruntled HMG Heavy.
Assault Rifles are fine.
They're good, they're versatile, but they're also fine. Leave 'em alone and buff the weak weapons instead. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
676
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:54:00 -
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just like CAKE, must nerf cake now |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
310
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:55:00 -
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ladwar wrote:just like CAKE, must nerf cake now
It is a lie. Nerf lies! |
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Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
23
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:57:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything Where are these plasma based weapons? I'd like to see them. still like blasters these ARs are supposed to be high damage short range weapons not long range like the Tac AR they need more damage and less range than even a ScR |
Nariec
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
37
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Posted - 2013.06.25 03:32:00 -
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I swear to god, if these people keep getting killed by a ******* weapon meant to kill them they shout out OP and NERF, when will this **** stop. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2077
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Posted - 2013.06.25 03:36:00 -
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Nariec wrote:I swear to god, if these people keep getting killed by a ******* weapon meant to kill them they shout out OP and NERF, when will this **** stop. Dust 514 could be the first AAA pillow fight and people will complain about foam being OP while satin pajamas need a buff... |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1891
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Posted - 2013.06.25 03:38:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Nariec wrote:I swear to god, if these people keep getting killed by a ******* weapon meant to kill them they shout out OP and NERF, when will this **** stop. Dust 514 could be the first AAA pillow fight and people will complain about foam being OP while satin pajamas need a buff... As long as my pjs got bananas wearing pjs, all is right in the world |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
613
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Posted - 2013.06.25 04:51:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything
So you're saying that if it isn't YOUR favorite playstyle, it needs to be gimped? Would you like an underbarrel proto swarm attachment, too? |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
24
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Posted - 2013.06.25 04:53:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything So you're saying that if it isn't YOUR favorite playstyle, it needs to be gimped? Would you like an underbarrel proto swarm attachment, too? He would he doesn't understand what balence is. These sort of things are too complex for him to understand. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
617
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Posted - 2013.06.25 05:08:00 -
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Colonel Killar wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything So you're saying that if it isn't YOUR favorite playstyle, it needs to be gimped? Would you like an underbarrel proto swarm attachment, too? He would he doesn't understand what balence is. These sort of things are too complex for him to understand.
Bacon is OP. Nerf bacon. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2013.06.25 05:11:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:They're too good... at everything!!!
The automatic weapon that throws little slugs is the baseline of every FPS, they are meant to be all round decent at everything. Unfortunately all the other weapons fail to be grand at their specialty/style. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
559
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Posted - 2013.06.25 05:17:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, cause assault rifles in real life arent good at anything and no military in the world uses them as an all around weapon And hell its not like other weapons do what it does better, Scrambler rifles certainly dont take shields down faster, SMGs dont eat armor for breakfast, sniper rifles dont out range it at all, it has a much better headshot bonus than the scrambler pistol I could go on
Granted a few weapons like the laser rifle dont match up but thats due to them being overnerfed from last build and underpowered, not from the AR being overpowered
Swear to god, so many of these posts from people that spec into niche weapons and expect to be good at everything So you're saying that if it isn't YOUR favorite playstyle, it needs to be gimped? Would you like an underbarrel proto swarm attachment, too?
How you got that out of "Lots of weapons have a niche, stop bitching if you get beaten out of yours" I have no idea |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
2085
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Posted - 2013.06.25 14:30:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Sloth9230 wrote:They're too good... at everything!!! The automatic weapon that throws little slugs is the baseline of every FPS, they are meant to be all round decent at everything. Unfortunately all the other weapons fail to be grand at their specialty/style. Someone gets it finally. |
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