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Felix Faraday
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.06.24 23:58:00 -
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Just had a heavy walk up behind me, nearly right next to me, tear me up with an HMG, then walk away. Never once showed up on my radar.
Why do we even have that thing again? |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
265
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:00:00 -
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Felix Faraday wrote:Just had a heavy walk up behind me, nearly right next to me, tear me up with an HMG, then walk away. Never once showed up on my radar.
Why do we even have that thing again?
Wheres the punchline? |
First Prophet
Jaguar Empire
191
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:00:00 -
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lol. It can't even spot tanks or LAVs right next to you.
It did once help catch a ninja knifer right behind me, so I guess that's why? |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
475
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:02:00 -
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Felix Faraday wrote:Just had a heavy walk up behind me, nearly right next to me, tear me up with an HMG, then walk away. Never once showed up on my radar.
Why do we even have that thing again?
So heavies can find you and sneak up on you. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
1026
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:04:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Felix Faraday wrote:Just had a heavy walk up behind me, nearly right next to me, tear me up with an HMG, then walk away. Never once showed up on my radar.
Why do we even have that thing again? So heavies can find you and sneak up on you.
The punchline. |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis
494
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:04:00 -
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No way, as a heavy player myself the only time i ever find it easy to sneak up on people is if there bad, there distracted or doing something that would involve not looking at the radar
80% of the time they will turn around. |
Felix Faraday
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:40:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:No way, as a heavy player myself the only time i ever find it easy to sneak up on people is if there bad, there distracted or doing something that would involve not looking at the radar
80% of the time they will turn around.
Tank hunting with a swarm launcher from some high ground.
I always watch the radar, and very often get killed by people that don't show up on it. It usually doesn't bother me, I just figure they are too far away, or their suit has decent dampening or something.
But this time the guy was right next to me before he opened fire, and it was a heavy/HMG. There's just no excuse for that.
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1887
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:47:00 -
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Everyone had their signal reduced no? |
Makyre Vahliha
GamersForChrist
Orion Empire
206
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:53:00 -
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It's possible the heavy could have profile dampening. To see better, equip a scan precision. It helps you to see nearby enemies. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1756
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Posted - 2013.06.25 00:59:00 -
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Well, my scout has seen heavies behind it all the time |
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Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
1887
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Posted - 2013.06.25 01:06:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:It's possible the heavy could have profile dampening. To see better, equip a scan precision. It helps you to see nearby enemies.
Even if that's true, everyone had their profiles brought down to non-existent levels so we'd be encouraged to use the scanner. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
676
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Posted - 2013.06.25 01:07:00 -
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dropsuit scan is 10m thats first small circle so yes it is there but its so small its not worth even having and that 10m is on all dropsuits. |
Michael Cratar
Fenrir's Wolves
RUST415
220
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:12:00 -
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Felix Faraday wrote:Just had a heavy walk up behind me, nearly right next to me, tear me up with an HMG, then walk away. Never once showed up on my radar.
Why do we even have that thing again?
Each suit has a scan radius. Med frames have a 90 degree angle of scan radius. That basically covers everything you can see on the screen. light frames have a 120 degree scan radius. This covers your whole screen and a bit of your sides. Heavies have a 60 degree scan radius. This basically covers anything you look DIRECTLY at or very close to that area. All suits have a very tight 360 degrees of coverage. It is very close to you tho so it is only good for finding people who sneek up on you.
If a heavy snuck up on you I can recommend 3 things.
1. Put points onto your scan radius.
2. increas profile detection. (the ability to detect, not the ability to be detected)
3. Watch your back more often.
EDIT: Even if you dont see people in your angle of detection, that is because you do no have proper detection skills. lvl them up and you will see everybody, everywere (within your detection angles). |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty
EoN.
562
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Posted - 2013.06.25 02:31:00 -
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Also it's not technically a radar since it doesn't use radio waves. That's a bit irrelevant, I know. But what a lot of people don't realize is that that map is shared by the entire team so if you find a red dot it will show up for everyone on your team. Because of this we honestly don't even realize how much scanning sucks now.
CCP went insane reducing scan radius and making changes to that system and it is far, far more useless than most people realize because most of the red that are showing up were seen by another player, not detected by your suit.
EDIT:Almost forgot the most important part: The best way around the garbage suit scanners is to run with a squad, maybe even have one player with an active scanner. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers
EoN.
310
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Posted - 2013.06.25 03:08:00 -
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Was i the only one who came expecting to *NOM NOM* on some popcorn to a good ole' fashioned QQ thread about Radar's nova knives? Radar got nerfed in uprising. It sucks. Heavies can ambush now, welp hope no one in their right minds is still QQ'ing about heavies being nerfed. I get smoked by proto heavies in pc more than anything else. |
The dark cloud
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1550
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Posted - 2013.06.25 03:17:00 -
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Very simple:
The radar only shows people that are in YOUR line of sight and the line of sight of other people. So if nobody spoted that heavy and he sneaked up on you then your team obviously did something wrong. Or he just spawned behind you, uncloaked and teared you apart with his HMG. Which is more likely. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
310
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Posted - 2013.06.25 03:50:00 -
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Felix Faraday wrote:Why do we even have that thing again?
I'm gonna go ahead and say you have zero SP in any scanner skills. Confirm/deny? |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
229
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:13:00 -
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ladwar wrote:dropsuit scan is 10m thats first small circle so yes it is there but its so small its not worth even having and that 10m is on all dropsuits.
'minor' correction, but the inner circle is 20m not ten.
Just throwing that out there. It is a 100% difference.
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Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
536
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:19:00 -
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I'm using active scanners and while they are awesome when they work, sometimes there are matches in which they are completely bugged, picking up no signatures. |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
RISE of LEGION
122
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:21:00 -
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We have it because of the same person that designed MCCs to fly over a battlefield with a nice overview and no scanners and all that stuff... |
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