Logi's should only be able to fit a sidearm. Boom, problem solved, now they actually have to provide battlefield SUPPORT. Give me a Dev job.

I hate how Logis, can be better at killing then an Assault suit.

Logis are OP? LOL @ Min logi.

People are slow around here huh...
The Gallante Logis not only has a LOT MORE CPU/PG and one more Low powered module slot at the cost of a side arm slot, but it has 2 more equipment slots and a Specialization bonus that actually WORKS for gallante. What would you prefer using a dropsuit that depends on armor, 25%+ shield regen rate , or 5 Hp/s Armor repair?
DUH....

have you ever used a assault caldari suit with complex shield regulators?

-60 HP and 0.4 Speed are easily fixed and excelled by the logi with the extra Module slots.

If this is not a troll, CCP needs to read this. I have said before logistics need to be changed. Lose the light weapon slot, or something to stop this.

To be fair, an actual combat medic should be with his heavies and assaults, focusing more on the ability to tank or avoid damage in order to keep his allies alive.

But you see, your logic doesn't make any sense. The logistic guy should have given the other squad an edge in survivability. That's the whole point he was there to begin with......

Dude you have no idea..... By speccing into this suit, not only did my survivability go up. ALL OF OUR survivability went up..... dying wasn't common after we all go together.....

My point was he wanted to play an assault style. 40-2 or whatever is slay style. It would be cool if logistics suits were only really good at support. I am not saying no offensive capability, but if slayers are choosing the support suit, something is wrong.

So now heavies and scouts can die when anyone farts?

Scouts got freaking shafted, and they don't whine half has hard as killer bees do

It's the very defensive posture you all take when anyone even so much as mentions the word balance when comes to your specialization.

[Also, let me reiterate what I've said for the past few months, how in the blue **** are ALL the logis OP? Describe each one individually, starting with the Gallente, Minmatar, Amarr, and then finish with the Caldari.

Not surprised, people see yellow and instantly assume it's all the suits. You try to reason with them using numbers and they want to burn you at the stake for being a witch. No wonder CCP doesn't listen to us.

So, when your assault dropsuit or fatty suit drops, as a repair tool and needle wielding medic, I'll just run away and hope someone else kills that redberry for me so that I can rep you or pick you up.

Cool.

After this change, new whinage predicted: LOGIs are DAMN USELESS IN A TEAM.

WAY. TO. THINK. THINGS. THROUGH.

[IF you are good enough too.

People complain now when logis don't clear the area before a revive, exactly what they think is going to happen if they take our sidearms is beyond me

Who said anything about sidearms being taken away?

You people must have gone full blown ******** to suggest that the Logi suit should be restricted to a Side-arm when Calogi suit is the only problematic Logisuit, and Amarr and Gallente Logi suits are already underpowered as it is.

All those talks about making logi able of using only Sidearm is plain dumb.

If this was done, it would pretty much mean the death of the logi suit. Why ? Not because sidearm are useless but because people DONT want to be stuck with only sidearms, especially with the range system in Dust. So they'll go for another role.

So no, i would never support such a decision.

Now what can be done ? Here's a list of the logical and soft tweaks that could be done quickly :

Remove one mod slot on every logi suit except Amarr.

Remove Shield Ex bonus on Cal Logis

Remove the armor rep bonus
In my opinion it should be totally removed. Especially with the new plates being added soon.
Instead, what's the logic specialization bonus for logistics ? Imo 5% reduction PG\CPU cost per level to all equipments.

Balance shield delay that are insanely low atm
Especially Amarr who has a depleted delay LOWER than the regular delay. And 4/6s for the Cal Logi is just begging for a slap in the face. I mean, it's better than scout values... Except scout cant stockpile regulators. Should be 5/6. Which is still pretty damn good.

Nameshield delayShield delay Depleted
Assault ak.06s10s
Logistics ak.065 => 6/8
Logistics ck.046 => 5/6
Assault ck.05s8s
Assault gk.07s10s
Scout gk.04s8s
Logistics gk.066 => 7/8
Scout mk.04s8s
Assault mk.06s10s
Logistics mk.066 => 6/8

Make Bonuses for each race enhance the efficiency of equipments.
Depending on the new specialization bonus, add specific efficiency to equipments depending on the race : Amount of clones in drop uplinks, amount of HP restored, efficiency of repair guns, amount of nanite clusters in nanohives etc... The bonus to hacking for minmatar is a good one by the way. Feels very logistic.

Doing this would already take logistic back to what they're supposed to be. No native HP buffer will force them to use slots to actually tank, and one less mod slots will overall lower the available buffer possibilities. Equipment oriented bonuses will allow to reinforce them as logistic players, taking better equipment without need CPU\PG extensions through the CPU\PG reduction skill and using them to their top potential through specific racial bonuses enhancing their efficiency.

No need to cripple them to using only sidearms.

Actually i'm no longer replacement lol. I'm a permanent member of the CPM since fanfest where CCP realized a replacement is tough to handle and 6 people is better than 5 Guess we forgot to break the news though !