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Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:35:00 -
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(why im quoting my self ... i don't know why) |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:39:00 -
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Built* |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:42:00 -
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thx.. derped hard |
Ghural
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:45:00 -
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Yeah. But Rome didn't call itself a city, whilst it was still a small town. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:48:00 -
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Ghural wrote:Yeah. But Rome didn't call itself a city, whilst it was still a small town.
Maybe you don't understand the definition of a city then. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
542
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:50:00 -
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Yeah but after a few years they werent sitting in shacks calling it an empire |
Asher Night
187. League of Infamy
134
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:51:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Ghural wrote:Yeah. But Rome didn't call itself a city, whilst it was still a small town. Maybe you don't understand the definition of a city then.
You can pretend to ignore his meaning, but it doesn't change the fact that you are willfully ignorant. You know what he meant. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
168
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:15:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Ghural wrote:Yeah. But Rome didn't call itself a city, whilst it was still a small town. Maybe you don't understand the definition of a city then. You can pretend to ignore his meaning, but it doesn't change the fact that you are willfully ignorant. You know what he meant.
I can agree with siting on shacks and calling it a empire but then what game does not have good trailers ALMOST EVERY GAME YOU SEE TODAY HAS A TRAILER THAT IS BETTER THAN WHAT THE GAME TRULY IS
But if you want to play this game may i remind you of what Aliens colonial marine did ?
also While we are on this subject did you know games like farm-ville can be classified as a MMO
So if games like that can be called a MMO then i think dust should have no problem being called a mmo.fps.rpg
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Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
474
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:18:00 -
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Oh! You like cliches? I got an awesome one for ya. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Enjoy |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
169
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:19:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:Oh! You like cliches? I got an awesome one for ya. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Enjoy
tfw i am only a casual dust player and have only spent $20 on the game. |
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SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2702
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:22:00 -
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Rome wasn't built in a day - very true - but it also wasn't built by CCP. Imagine if it was? :O |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:25:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Rome wasn't built in a day - very true - but it also wasn't built by CCP. Imagine if it was? :O
Is it weird if the first thing i though of was the rooks and king making a spaceship pantheon going up against the barbarians and claiming the whole universe for themselves before going back into a wormhole to neweden ? |
Asher Night
187. League of Infamy
135
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:27:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Asher Night wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Ghural wrote:Yeah. But Rome didn't call itself a city, whilst it was still a small town. Maybe you don't understand the definition of a city then. You can pretend to ignore his meaning, but it doesn't change the fact that you are willfully ignorant. You know what he meant. I can agree with siting on shacks and calling it a empire but then what game does not have good trailers ALMOST EVERY GAME YOU SEE TODAY HAS A TRAILER THAT IS BETTER THAN WHAT THE GAME TRULY IS But if you want to play this game may i remind you of what Aliens colonial marine did ? also While we are on this subject did you know games like farm-ville can be classified as a MMO So if games like that can be called a MMO then i think dust should have no problem being called a mmo.fps.rpg *edit* I don't understand why people care about stuff like this.................. Publisher: Zynga Playerbase: High Graphics: Low Type: Social MMO EXP Rate: Medium PvP: N/A Filesize: N/A Pros: +Co-op Farming feature. +Plenty of Customization. +Virtual pet option. +New additions added regularly making gameplay challenging. Cons: -Players must rely heavily on their friends for certain upgrades or tasks. -To gain specific items occasional spamming of friends is necessary.
I legitimately have no ******* clue what point you are trying to make. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
74
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:31:00 -
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Everyone should read Caesar's "Gallic Wars". |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
169
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:32:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:
You can pretend to ignore his meaning, but it doesn't change the fact that you are willfully ignorant. You know what he meant.
Asher Night wrote:
I legitimately have no ******* clue what point you are trying to make
Fail. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
770
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:33:00 -
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The Romans had the guts to call the cause of destabilisation of their Republic civil war instead of 'community input'. |
Asher Night
187. League of Infamy
135
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:34:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Asher Night wrote:
You can pretend to ignore his meaning, but it doesn't change the fact that you are willfully ignorant. You know what he meant.
Asher Night wrote:
I legitimately have no ******* clue what point you are trying to make
Fail.
Dude... You are so awkwardly hard to talk to. |
hooc roht
Deep Space Republic
74
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:35:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:The Romans had the guts to call the cause of destabilisation of their Republic civil war instead of 'community input'.
HANNIBAL IS AT THE GATES!!! |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
706
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:43:00 -
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but a major human threatening pandemic, capable of eradicating the worlds population, can be done in a day. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
169
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:45:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Asher Night wrote:
You can pretend to ignore his meaning, but it doesn't change the fact that you are willfully ignorant. You know what he meant.
Asher Night wrote:
I legitimately have no ******* clue what point you are trying to make
Fail. Dude... You are so awkwardly hard to talk to.
actually im a rather normal person ~ i just like to have fun by confusing people
here
have the|se |
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Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
169
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Posted - 2013.06.24 06:56:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:but a major human threatening pandemic, capable of eradicating the worlds population, can be done in a day.
Please don't remind me of cod. |
Asher Night
187. League of Infamy
135
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:03:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Asher Night wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Asher Night wrote:
You can pretend to ignore his meaning, but it doesn't change the fact that you are willfully ignorant. You know what he meant.
Asher Night wrote:
I legitimately have no ******* clue what point you are trying to make
Fail. Dude... You are so awkwardly hard to talk to. actually im a rather normal person ~ i just like to have fun by confusing people here have the|se
You. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:09:00 -
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no this is not a troll threat
but i do have them ~ look up lav's need to be buffed
but my point was when he said rome did not claim to be a city
i assumed he mean that dust 514 was claiming to be a mmo.fps.rpg when he though it was not good enough for that
so i used the comparison that farmville a ***** facebook flash game is classified as a mmo to make my point
but then the comment rome did not claim to be a empire when it was a shack was made so i assumed he was talking about the trailers and hype around the game
so i pointed out EVERY GAME in the history of 2010+ of gaming did that so ccp is allowed to regardless of what he thinks therefore making his point meaningless
rome was not built in a day im not calling ccp is rome but im pointing out the nothing that is good will just show up
now if you had half a brain you should have figured that out your self unless you still can't what im talking about then obv we are not on the same page and i have nothing left to say to you
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Carter Raynor
The Generals EoN.
35
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:11:00 -
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Rome wasn't built in a day, but it was sure as hell worked on EVERY DAMN DAY. You want to be legends? Do something about it.. HINT HINT CCP |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:13:00 -
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Carter Raynor wrote:Rome wasn't built in a day, but it was sure as hell worked on EVERY DAMN DAY. You want to be legends? Do something about it.. HINT HINT CCP
CCP are innocent and work hard until proven otherwise in the court of law. |
Asher Night
187. League of Infamy
135
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:14:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:no this is not a troll threat but i do have them ~ look up lav's need to be buffed but my point was when he said rome did not claim to be a city i assumed he mean that dust 514 was claiming to be a mmo.fps.rpg when he though it was not good enough for that so i used the comparison that farmville a ***** facebook flash game is classified as a mmo to make my point but then the comment rome did not claim to be a empire when it was a shack was made so i assumed he was talking about the trailers and hype around the game so i pointed out EVERY GAME in the history of 2010+ of gaming did that so ccp is allowed to regardless of what he thinks therefore making his point meaningless rome was not built in a day im not calling ccp is rome but im pointing out the nothing that is good will just show up now if you had half a brain you should have figured that out your self unless you still can't what im talking about then obv we are not on the same page and i have nothing left to say to you
I promise you make a lot less sense than you think you make. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:17:00 -
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Asher Night wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:no this is not a troll threat but i do have them ~ look up lav's need to be buffed but my point was when he said rome did not claim to be a city i assumed he mean that dust 514 was claiming to be a mmo.fps.rpg when he though it was not good enough for that so i used the comparison that farmville a ***** facebook flash game is classified as a mmo to make my point but then the comment rome did not claim to be a empire when it was a shack was made so i assumed he was talking about the trailers and hype around the game so i pointed out EVERY GAME in the history of 2010+ of gaming did that so ccp is allowed to regardless of what he thinks therefore making his point meaningless rome was not built in a day im not calling ccp is rome but im pointing out the nothing that is good will just show up now if you had half a brain you should have figured that out your self unless you still can't what im talking about then obv we are not on the same page and i have nothing left to say to you I promise you make a lot less sense than you think you make.
I apologies i should not assume intelligence from the likes of you
*edit*
Guess i stand corrected normally idiots try to keep fighting over something when there is no more point |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:28:00 -
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Wow.
Everyday I see fan boys coming up with new excuses to defend the flaws of this game.
"Rome wasn't built in a day" is such a generic excuse for so many things...
I can see why you picked this line to cover the vast amount of under-delivery and poor standards... |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:30:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote:Wow.
Everyday I see fan boys coming up with new excuses to defend the flaws of this game.
"Rome wasn't built in a day" is such a generic excuse for so many things...
I can see why you picked this line to cover the vast amount of under-delivery and poor standards...
Im not saying the flaws are not there... im not blind or deaf or ignorant
im saying that given time ccp will fix these as they have done before but it's not going to happen over night so quit your QQ and whats up with your name i can't make heads or tails of it
r u a alt ? |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:35:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote: r u a alt ?
Yes I'm a secret CCP alt I'm here to build Rome! Stop complaining because we are fixing Dust in 10 years! So come back in 10 years! |
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Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:37:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote:Syther Shadows wrote: r u a alt ?
Yes I'm a secret CCP alt I'm here to build Rome! Stop complaining because we are fixing Dust in 10 years! So come back in 10 years! I'm not complaining And your not a secret CCP alt
but you did not have to be a genius to see either of those points |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1994
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:38:00 -
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EVE has improved graphically significantly over the years. The core gameplay has barely budged. Apply this same formula to DUST and ask if it is worth waiting 10 years for it... |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:40:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:EVE has improved graphically significantly over the years. The core gameplay has barely budged. Apply this same formula to DUST and ask if it is worth waiting 10 years for it...
Another thing I want to say is Dust is not EVE, they are too different in nature so please stop applying CCP's EVE experience to this Dust thingy that's going on. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:41:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:EVE has improved graphically significantly over the years. The core gameplay has barely budged. Apply this same formula to DUST and ask if it is worth waiting 10 years for it...
are you real -poke-
this is unbelievable
its a valid point and constructive criticism
ok ~
but tbh im happy with where dust is at atm i like the whole PQ thing and i think that through dust eve can also expand the battles of dust i feel over time will become more important and it will effect eve one way or another
if not then i can say hey thanks for the ride
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Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:42:00 -
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5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3 wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:EVE has improved graphically significantly over the years. The core gameplay has barely budged. Apply this same formula to DUST and ask if it is worth waiting 10 years for it... Another thing I want to say is Dust is not EVE, they are too different in nature so please stop applying CCP's EVE experience to this Dust thingy that's going on.
1. the correct term is not Dust Thingy.
2. The experience ccp got from ten years of eve is integrity not just making space ship games.
3. thank you for saying please but i will not delete this thread nor can i in any formal way |
5aEKUXeRJGJ27kCDnDVYak3
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
136
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Posted - 2013.06.24 07:45:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote: 1. the correct term is not Dust Thingy.
2. The experience ccp got from ten years of eve is integrity not just making space ship games.
3. thank you for saying please but i will not delete this thread nor can i in any formal way
1. okay 2. lol 3. You are very welcome. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1994
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Posted - 2013.06.24 08:37:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:EVE has improved graphically significantly over the years. The core gameplay has barely budged. Apply this same formula to DUST and ask if it is worth waiting 10 years for it... are you real -poke- this is unbelievable its a valid point and constructive criticism ok ~ but tbh im happy with where dust is at atm i like the whole PQ thing and i think that through dust eve can also expand the battles of dust i feel over time will become more important and it will effect eve one way or another if not then i can say hey thanks for the ride
So is mine. If you are happy with the foundation and just looking for polish, then it is worth sticking it out. If you are unhappy with some core direction choices, it won't magically get better over time. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 08:41:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:EVE has improved graphically significantly over the years. The core gameplay has barely budged. Apply this same formula to DUST and ask if it is worth waiting 10 years for it... are you real -poke- this is unbelievable its a valid point and constructive criticism ok ~ but tbh im happy with where dust is at atm i like the whole PQ thing and i think that through dust eve can also expand the battles of dust i feel over time will become more important and it will effect eve one way or another if not then i can say hey thanks for the ride So is mine. If you are happy with the foundation and just looking for polish, then it is worth sticking it out. If you are unhappy with some core direction choices, it won't magically get better over time.
i was talking about your point when i said valid point and constructive criticism of my point :P and thanks ~
but atm the core mechanics of dust are amazing to me a merc of war in a universe so big where pvp is already a big deal between small corps and big ones |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1994
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:11:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:
i was talking about your point when i said valid point and constructive criticism of my point :P and thanks ~
but atm the core mechanics of dust are amazing to me a merc of war in a universe so big where pvp is already a big deal between small corps and big ones
The big problem I have with DUST, is they seem to not have a cohesive vision for what it will be 10 years from now. They have a list of features but no unified package that connects them. It has been more or less a blank slate, which made it easy to dream in perfect ways it would eventually be filled in. But alas, it still has the feeling of a blank slate of a game and I'm not sure how that is supposed to sustain my attention when there are a lot of games focused on fun shooting first around the corner instead of logistics. Don't get me wrong, the risk/reward is a "killer feature" for DUST, but it's poorly executed.
DUST definitely broke my heart though, and a few people, especially in PR, should be fired for derogatory treatment of customers and blatantly unrealistic expectations they gave the community. With RSI, Uber, and even SOE being much more customer friendly, I've certainly sent my money elsewhere and won't reconsider unless it truly does become good someday. |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
178
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:20:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:EVE has improved graphically significantly over the years. The core gameplay has barely budged. Apply this same formula to DUST and ask if it is worth waiting 10 years for it... are you real -poke- this is unbelievable its a valid point and constructive criticism ok ~ but tbh im happy with where dust is at atm i like the whole PQ thing and i think that through dust eve can also expand the battles of dust i feel over time will become more important and it will effect eve one way or another if not then i can say hey thanks for the ride So is mine. If you are happy with the foundation and just looking for polish, then it is worth sticking it out. If you are unhappy with some core direction choices, it won't magically get better over time. i was talking about your point when i said valid point and constructive criticism of my point :P and thanks ~ but atm the core mechanics of dust are amazing to me a merc of war in a universe so big where pvp is already a big deal between small corps and big ones
core mechanics of what it wants to be or how it plays currently. If it is how it plays currently there will only you running around the map and AFKs playing hoping that it gets better in 10 years.
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Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:25:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:
The big problem I have with DUST, is they seem to not have a cohesive vision for what it will be 10 years from now. They have a list of features but no unified package that connects them. It has been more or less a blank slate, which made it easy to dream in perfect ways it would eventually be filled in. But alas, it still has the feeling of a blank slate of a game and I'm not sure how that is supposed to sustain my attention when there are a lot of games focused on fun shooting first around the corner instead of logistics. Don't get me wrong, the risk/reward is a "killer feature" for DUST, but it's poorly executed.
DUST definitely broke my heart though, and a few people, especially in PR, should be fired for derogatory treatment of customers and blatantly unrealistic expectations they gave the community. With RSI, Uber, and even SOE being much more customer friendly, I've certainly sent my money elsewhere and won't reconsider unless it truly does become good someday.
Build your relationships on the solid ground of TRUST By John C Maxwell
GÇ£To be trusted is a greater compliment than to be loved.GÇ¥ ~George MacDonald
im not judging you and im not going to lie there are more fun things to do than play dust and stuff like this im not telling people they should play dust and they are a noob if they think its bad
that in all honesty is just a stupid arrogant type of thing to do
I have seen feedback suggested by players become a reality
did you know in league of legends That was a HUGE DEAL but in dust 514
almost everything was requested by players on the IRC and the Forums so i see it as my job to stick with ccp |
xAckie
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
178
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:27:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:
The big problem I have with DUST, is they seem to not have a cohesive vision for what it will be 10 years from now. They have a list of features but no unified package that connects them. It has been more or less a blank slate, which made it easy to dream in perfect ways it would eventually be filled in.
For me this is their biggest failure. The amount of info CCP has spouted saying this is coming down the line etc and never delivered is incredible.
I remember the forums all through closed beta. Whenever complaints came up fanbois would say this is a beta patience etc.CCP will deliver, look at Eve, we are only seeing a tiny percentage of the game - wait till it releases. CCP did nothing to dampen down expectations but rather ramped it up with promises of bigger and better content e.g. 1000s of expansive maps different every time, gun rig system, player trading, open market etc.
launch? Nothing. Same year old maps with a building here and there - same terrible core mechanics. CCP delivered??? |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:34:00 -
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xAckie wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:
The big problem I have with DUST, is they seem to not have a cohesive vision for what it will be 10 years from now. They have a list of features but no unified package that connects them. It has been more or less a blank slate, which made it easy to dream in perfect ways it would eventually be filled in.
For me this is their biggest failure. The amount of info CCP has spouted saying this is coming down the line etc and never delivered is incredible. I remember the forums all through closed beta. Whenever complaints came up fanbois would say this is a beta patience etc.CCP will deliver, look at Eve, we are only seeing a tiny percentage of the game - wait till it releases. CCP did nothing to dampen down expectations but rather ramped it up with promises of bigger and better content e.g. 1000s of expansive maps different every time, gun rig system, player trading, open market etc. launch? Nothing. Same year old maps with a building here and there - same terrible core mechanics. CCP delivered???
personally id say ccp are still working on this and still want this goal what other reason do they have to keep the game running
i would be surprised if they did it for the money i really would |
Michael Arck
sephiroth clones General Tso's Alliance
36
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Posted - 2013.06.24 09:53:00 -
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It's not a big deal but people will make it out to be one. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1994
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:01:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:
The big problem I have with DUST, is they seem to not have a cohesive vision for what it will be 10 years from now. They have a list of features but no unified package that connects them. It has been more or less a blank slate, which made it easy to dream in perfect ways it would eventually be filled in. But alas, it still has the feeling of a blank slate of a game and I'm not sure how that is supposed to sustain my attention when there are a lot of games focused on fun shooting first around the corner instead of logistics. Don't get me wrong, the risk/reward is a "killer feature" for DUST, but it's poorly executed.
DUST definitely broke my heart though, and a few people, especially in PR, should be fired for derogatory treatment of customers and blatantly unrealistic expectations they gave the community. With RSI, Uber, and even SOE being much more customer friendly, I've certainly sent my money elsewhere and won't reconsider unless it truly does become good someday.
Build your relationships on the solid ground of TRUST By John C Maxwell GÇ£To be trusted is a greater compliment than to be loved.GÇ¥ ~George MacDonald im not judging you and im not going to lie there are more fun things to do than play dust and stuff like this im not telling people they should play dust and they are a noob if they think its bad that in all honesty is just a stupid arrogant type of thing to do I have seen feedback suggested by players become a realitydid you know in league of legends That was a HUGE DEAL but in dust 514 almost everything was requested by players on the IRC and the Forums so i see it as my job to stick with ccp
Should come with a diet ad disclaimer for DUST 514. Not a typical experience. I've been behind a few features that got to the game, but by the time they arrived they were half baked. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
170
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Posted - 2013.06.24 10:05:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:
The big problem I have with DUST, is they seem to not have a cohesive vision for what it will be 10 years from now. They have a list of features but no unified package that connects them. It has been more or less a blank slate, which made it easy to dream in perfect ways it would eventually be filled in. But alas, it still has the feeling of a blank slate of a game and I'm not sure how that is supposed to sustain my attention when there are a lot of games focused on fun shooting first around the corner instead of logistics. Don't get me wrong, the risk/reward is a "killer feature" for DUST, but it's poorly executed.
DUST definitely broke my heart though, and a few people, especially in PR, should be fired for derogatory treatment of customers and blatantly unrealistic expectations they gave the community. With RSI, Uber, and even SOE being much more customer friendly, I've certainly sent my money elsewhere and won't reconsider unless it truly does become good someday.
Build your relationships on the solid ground of TRUST By John C Maxwell GÇ£To be trusted is a greater compliment than to be loved.GÇ¥ ~George MacDonald im not judging you and im not going to lie there are more fun things to do than play dust and stuff like this im not telling people they should play dust and they are a noob if they think its bad that in all honesty is just a stupid arrogant type of thing to do I have seen feedback suggested by players become a realitydid you know in league of legends That was a HUGE DEAL but in dust 514 almost everything was requested by players on the IRC and the Forums so i see it as my job to stick with ccp Should come with a diet ad disclaimer for DUST 514. Not a typical experience. I've been behind a few features that got to the game, but by the time they arrived they were half baked.
you answered this yourself
you saw what you wanted and ccp could not deliver that
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mikegunnz
187. League of Infamy
620
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:27:00 -
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@OP Re: your "Rome wasn't built in a day" title...
This is less like Rome, more like Mogadishu, Somalia. |
Sev Alcatraz
Bullet Cluster
278
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Posted - 2013.06.24 12:36:00 -
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Yes but rome had skilled architects where as dust as a lolocracy of Dev's who have no idea what there doing http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://i.imgur.com/xVyoSl.jpg&imgrefurl=http://ninjasandrobots.com/you-need-some-experience&h=490&w=640&sz=68&tbnid=uL_sKn0GWPdwZM:&tbnh=92&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__KL1dnKzN8rnVfqvEGmeE7cbgYtI=&docid=qHdh2oIAXNwWcM&sa=X&ei=TT3IUeffHoi-qAGz3IG4Dg&ved=0CC4Q9QEwAA&dur=493 |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
176
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Posted - 2013.06.25 10:04:00 -
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do you think those architects where just born skilled or did they work hard to become skilled and then get paid to work at rome ? |
James-5955
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
203
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:08:00 -
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Comparing this game to Rome is pretty funny. A+ for effort but in the end Dust is still only a mediocre shooter at best and will have to compete against other shooters that are already better. I don't expect Dust to eventually become a good or great game (in my standards) because I feel the core mechanics are flawed.
The main core mechanic that I dislike? The SP system. The games I remember being good didn't make you grind to have an advantage or grind to stay on par with other players. They'd give you unlockables and a leveling up system with some other unlockables that don't really make your character better but what you could unlock was well balanced with all the other items and just gave you a different weapon that required a different playstyle to use well.
That's how I like shooter games to be. I think that someone should be able to buy it, log on and the only real disadvantage they have is not knowing the maps well and not being quite used to controls/sensitivity. You know, stuff that comes with experience in a game. To someone new who joins in Dust it's BS, people are running around that have much stronger characters than you AND they know the game better, just stacking advantage on advantage. Yeah they *can* grind through it, but how long will it take to reach 8+ mil SP, especially without boosters? & in the end would it even be worth it when the game is mediocre anyway?
It's the same issue I had with EVE, you can join now but you are insanely behind the vets in SP and you shouldn't even attempt to PvP one of them 1v1. Just blob warfare, woo. & that doesn't even work in Dust since its a fixed player cap at 16 vs 16. Which is another disappointment, why are we STILL stuck at 16 vs 16?
Although honestly playercount doesn't matter to me much, hell I've been addicted to The Last of Us MP where it's only 4v4. But guess what? The game plays very well, it's not glitchy, it runs smoothly, it promotes teamwork/tactical play more than Dust, and it's overall simply more of an enjoyable experience.
Actually I'm going to go play that now.
I hope that CCP can turn Dust into a masterpiece but I'm not going to stick around and grind it out waiting. How does it feel to know that a big chunk of your playerbase is only playing the game to cap out on SP so they aren't behind when/IF the game finally becomes good? |
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DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc
555
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:40:00 -
[51] - Quote
Syther Shadows wrote:no this is not a troll threat but i do have them ~ look up lav's need to be buffed but my point was when he said rome did not claim to be a city i assumed he mean that dust 514 was claiming to be a mmo.fps.rpg when he though it was not good enough for that so i used the comparison that farmville a ***** facebook flash game is classified as a mmo to make my point but then the comment rome did not claim to be a empire when it was a shack was made so i assumed he was talking about the trailers and hype around the game so i pointed out EVERY GAME in the history of 2010+ of gaming did that so ccp is allowed to regardless of what he thinks therefore making his point meaningless rome was not built in a day im not calling ccp is rome but im pointing out the nothing that is good will just show up now if you had half a brain you should have figured that out your self unless you still can't what im talking about then obv we are not on the same page and i have nothing left to say to you God! smh...
We are talking about how every fanboy of Dust is saying that this game has great gunplay, great vehicles, amazing core mechanics, good economics, good company-customer relations, how Dust 514 tops all other triple A titles and that anybody who can't appreciate how 'good' it is, is ignorant.
In reality, Dust is lacking in every aspect outside of future promises by CCP, which no other company has ever had the guts to give such audacious promises. This game cannot compete against the other shooters, at least not yet. Hence it should not call it self a 'city', while it has nothing more to offer than a small 'town'.
This , sir, is what we are speaking of. |
RoundEy3
Metal Mind Industries
129
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Posted - 2013.06.25 16:46:00 -
[52] - Quote
Rome wasn't built in a day, but it took the Allies 4 years to bring down the Axis powers in WW2.
How many years has CCP been working on DUST now??? |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:06:00 -
[53] - Quote
RoundEy3 wrote:Rome wasn't built in a day, but it took the Allies 4 years to bring down the Axis powers in WW2.
How many years has CCP been working on DUST now???
about a day |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:08:00 -
[54] - Quote
DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:no this is not a troll threat but i do have them ~ look up lav's need to be buffed but my point was when he said rome did not claim to be a city i assumed he mean that dust 514 was claiming to be a mmo.fps.rpg when he though it was not good enough for that so i used the comparison that farmville a ***** facebook flash game is classified as a mmo to make my point but then the comment rome did not claim to be a empire when it was a shack was made so i assumed he was talking about the trailers and hype around the game so i pointed out EVERY GAME in the history of 2010+ of gaming did that so ccp is allowed to regardless of what he thinks therefore making his point meaningless rome was not built in a day im not calling ccp is rome but im pointing out the nothing that is good will just show up now if you had half a brain you should have figured that out your self unless you still can't what im talking about then obv we are not on the same page and i have nothing left to say to you God! smh... We are talking about how every fanboy of Dust is saying that this game has great gunplay, great vehicles, amazing core mechanics, good economics, good company-customer relations, how Dust 514 tops all other triple A titles and that anybody who can't appreciate how 'good' it is, is ignorant. In reality, Dust is lacking in every aspect outside of future promises by CCP, which no other company has ever had the guts to give such audacious promises. This game cannot compete against the other shooters, at least not yet. Hence it should not call it self a 'city', while it has nothing more to offer than a small 'town'. This , sir, is what we are speaking of.
lol then why are you posting on my post where i say dust is not ready yet but then what was ready in this amount of time >? |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
245
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:18:00 -
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Syther Shadows wrote:(why im quoting my self ... i don't know why)
But eve is playable it's not that were all having fun in dust and waiting for the game to improve even more were waiting for dust to become something playable as im sure eve was from the beginning. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:20:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:(why im quoting my self ... i don't know why) But eve is playable it's not that were all having fun in dust and waiting for the game to improve even more were waiting for dust to become something playable as im sure eve was from the beginning.
you did not play eve. get out and be quite. |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
91
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:23:00 -
[57] - Quote
Yes it was.
Look it up. It's in the bible. That makes it an irrefutable fact.
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Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:24:00 -
[58] - Quote
Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Yes it was.
Look it up. It's in the bible. That makes it an irrefutable fact.
LoL reported |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
91
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:28:00 -
[59] - Quote
Syther Shadows wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Yes it was.
Look it up. It's in the bible. That makes it an irrefutable fact.
LoL reported
LoL this isin't WoW or LoL. GL with that. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:32:00 -
[60] - Quote
Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Yes it was.
Look it up. It's in the bible. That makes it an irrefutable fact.
LoL reported LoL this isin't WoW or LoL. GL with that.
look next to my name
see that flag also look in the forum rules
and then look at the joke about religion you just made that could really offend people |
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Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
91
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:41:00 -
[61] - Quote
Syther Shadows wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Yes it was.
Look it up. It's in the bible. That makes it an irrefutable fact.
LoL reported LoL this isin't WoW or LoL. GL with that. look next to my name see that flag also look in the forum rules and then look at the joke about religion you just made that could really offend people
What makes you think I was joking. |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:43:00 -
[62] - Quote
Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:
What makes you think I was joking.
its not a joke that would require it to be funny. its just plain rude and offensive |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
91
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:51:00 -
[63] - Quote
Syther Shadows wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:
What makes you think I was joking.
its not a joke that would require it to be funny. its just plain rude and offensive
I was not aware you were a biblical scholar. Please excuse me for not knowing about your encyclopedic knowledge on this matter. It's pretty awesome that you're able to spare the time to become so well versed in the mechanics of ~humor~, and it's many methods of application and implementation.
Tell me, with so much of your time taken up by the above two tasks, how is it that you have time left to spare to play Dust? Especially considering how much time you seem to spend on the forums? One can then extrapolate that perhaps you don't actually *play* Dust, but are instead just a simple forum dweller.
In that case, I have only one question..
Meow? |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:56:00 -
[64] - Quote
Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Syther Shadows wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:
What makes you think I was joking.
its not a joke that would require it to be funny. its just plain rude and offensive I was not aware you were a biblical scholar. Please excuse me for not knowing about your encyclopedic knowledge on this matter. It's pretty awesome that you're able to spare the time to become so well versed in the mechanics of ~humor~, and it's many methods of application and implementation. Tell me, with so much of your time taken up by the above two tasks, how is it that you have time left to spare to play Dust? Especially considering how much time you seem to spend on the forums? One can then extrapolate that perhaps you don't actually *play* Dust, but are instead just a simple forum dweller. In that case, I have only one question.. Meow?
I was about to pull some kinda full caps rage gig but you made me giggle at the end :P i do play dust 5.7mill probs have not been on this week
i don't play it as hard core as some people so i can still stand the game and i enjoy it to a extent and i only spent like $10 on the game so i don't get mad when they fail my expectations ~
its amazing i think this game has good potential do you really want to see it shut down or do you want them to make it better some how
pick one of the two above and be honest im not judging you or your resolve |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
91
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Posted - 2013.06.27 11:02:00 -
[65] - Quote
Nobody wants to see Dust go under. Least of all me (I've spent.. Uh.. Too much $$$ on this).
But I am also an evil forum troll, and like bumping threads in strange ways.
Stiff upper lip, champ |
Syther Shadows
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
177
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Posted - 2013.06.27 11:04:00 -
[66] - Quote
So have you heard
nades are op now,
grab a complex nano hive and proto nades and spam the enemy oh and 600 that is explode on impact ~ enough damage to take out a heavy |
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