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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
988
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:53:00 -
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Cooler than k/d ratio. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2013.06.23 17:44:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Cooler than k/d ratio.
I would be forced to get a new mic-headset so I could go all "League of Legends" on my asshat teammates who cost us the win. |
PLANETSIDETwo OnPS4
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 17:47:00 -
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This thread......created to cover troll threads?
Yuppers as we all know jin robot is the #3 fanboi of this community.
Keep it up jinnie lookin good for CPM. |
PonyClause Rex
TRAMADOL KNIGHTS
209
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Posted - 2013.06.23 17:48:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Cooler than k/d ratio. I would be forced to get a new mic-headset so I could go all "League of Legends" on my asshat teammates who cost us the win.
ARMOR HACS ARMOR HACS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
77
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Posted - 2013.06.23 17:55:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Cooler than k/d ratio.
By far..... A better representation of your value to the team.
What I really want to know, however, is can one go negative here....? |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
991
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Posted - 2013.06.23 18:12:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Cooler than k/d ratio. By far..... A better representation of your value to the team. What I really want to know, however, is can one go negative here....?
Exactly that, much more valuable stat to show...value.
@ planetside2- CPM? Why would I ever want to absorb more troll wrath then I already do? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3966
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Posted - 2013.06.23 18:14:00 -
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You're either in an active corp and frequently run in squads which dramatically raises your chance to win since matchmaking doesn't exist in dust right now (also allowing less talented players to piggy back off of strong KDR players); or you run solo, and it's primarily a flip of the coin to who redlines who first.
Stats don't mean **** in this game |
xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
368
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Posted - 2013.06.23 18:15:00 -
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My stats are way higher than yours and they don't really mean much on a game bleeding out week by week. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
Dark Taboo
133
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Posted - 2013.06.23 18:28:00 -
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Getting tossed into lopsided matches & matches that are half or more over makes win/loss ratio less meaningful than kdr. |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University
Ivy League
96
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Posted - 2013.06.23 18:30:00 -
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Personally I favor the metric Net ISK earned.
It's a metric you have some control of, and gives players who don't normally do as well a great feeling of accomplishment if we measure ourselves by this standard.
For example I can die literally a dozen times, and still earn ISK for a match, and feel fairly good that in those twelve deaths, I cost somebody a suit that would nearly wipe out their Net ISK for this match. |
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Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
992
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Posted - 2013.06.23 18:51:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Getting tossed into lopsided matches & matches that are half or more over makes win/loss ratio less meaningful than kdr.
No, k/d ratio is the means to an end. w/l ratio is the end. Why does your k/d ratio matter if you lose? Really, I want to see your logic there. Because to me it is a selfish stat when compared to w/l. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
Dark Taboo
133
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Posted - 2013.06.23 18:59:00 -
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I didn't say kdr matters. I just said w/l ratio is less meaningful than kdr. When teams are getting stacked with full corp squads against a bunch of randoms or people are getting thrown into matches that are about to end what value does w/l ratio have? If my w/l was 1000 / 50 but all those wins were from me getting put on a stacked team against randoms or me getting put on the winning team of a match that's almost over and my loses were the opposite what value does that w/l ratio have? |
Medic 1879
Tritan's Onslaught
468
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:00:00 -
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Shame your win loss ratio can be spoiled by joining a game to not even have enough time to spawn before it comes up defeat. |
Rogatien Merc
Ill Omens
EoN.
97
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:03:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Getting tossed into lopsided matches & matches that are half or more over makes win/loss ratio less meaningful than kdr. No, k/d ratio is the means to an end. w/l ratio is the end. Why does your k/d ratio matter if you lose? Really, I want to see your logic there. Because to me it is a selfish stat when compared to w/l.
If you have an awesome kdr in a match and you lose, it's... well... not your fault TBQH. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
992
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:07:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Getting tossed into lopsided matches & matches that are half or more over makes win/loss ratio less meaningful than kdr. No, k/d ratio is the means to an end. w/l ratio is the end. Why does your k/d ratio matter if you lose? Really, I want to see your logic there. Because to me it is a selfish stat when compared to w/l. If you have an awesome kdr in a match and you lose, it's... well... not your fault TBQH.
Really, did you coordinate with your team to capture objectives? Did you concentrate on just killing and not dying? It was not tactical to just slay if all the letters are red. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
Dark Taboo
133
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:13:00 -
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So you're just going to ignore my question? |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
992
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:20:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I didn't say kdr matters. I just said w/l ratio is less meaningful than kdr. When teams are getting stacked with full corp squads against a bunch of randoms or people are getting thrown into matches that are about to end what value does w/l ratio have? If my w/l was 1000 / 50 but all those wins were from me getting put on a stacked team against randoms or me getting put on the winning team of a match that's almost over and my loses were the opposite what value does that w/l ratio have?
Its a matchmaking issue. In no way does that make w/l meaningless or even less telling than k/d ratio, as far as a meaningful stat. When did you lose the match but gain the district because your k/d ratio was so leet? |
RoTTeN-1
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:24:00 -
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Win/Loss does not mean anything and hasnt since CoD MW lol. If you run with friends or corp fulltime you will have a far better W/L ratio than someone who runs solo. I will say it KDR > W/L anyday. I cant help if I go 30-2 doing work and my crappy team looses. Just like I cant help if we lose when im afk in the mcc. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN
Dark Taboo
133
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:28:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:
Its a matchmaking issue. In no way does that make w/l meaningless or even less telling than k/d ratio, as far as a meaningful stat. When did you lose the match but gain the district because your k/d ratio was so leet?
We didn't start this conversation talking about individual wins or loses. This conversation is about the w/l ratio which is based on all the matches you've played. So a matchmaking issue that stacks teams and puts people in matches that are about to end does indeed make w/l meaningless. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
543
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Posted - 2013.06.23 19:29:00 -
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As if any stat mattered in this piece of garbage... |
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