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Baracka Flocka Flame
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:41:00 -
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Lavirac JR wrote:Now I am sure this is controversial for some, but I'd nominate The dark cloud. You may not agree with Cloud all the time, but Cloud understands the game.
Hahahahahahaha .... Good one... |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2796
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:48:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:o.0
Really? CPM is 2 months old and you're already putting up caniadates?
So? CCP plans to let us vote in the future. Might as well get the ball rolling while they prepare. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
856
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:51:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:I vote RegNyM
Which one? |
Alina Heart
DIOS EX.
287
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:53:00 -
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Cat Merc for CPM |
ISuperstar
DIOS X. II
112
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:55:00 -
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Forget CPM, land me a position on the Dec team and I swear I'll have this game and CCP winning awards before the end of 2013. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5356
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Posted - 2013.06.22 16:58:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mind you all this is a lot of work. Mind sharing with us your workload so we can see that fact for ourselves? :)
I would but most of the work is NDA'ed itself, I am sure it will be available to the next CPM though for viewing. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
857
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mind you all this is a lot of work.
and Last Night I got reminded why my familiarity with Eve Online was important as the discussion with the CSM on a number of subjects concerning the Dust Eve link came into question.
Players leaving everyday because of slow respecs, terrible communication and overall terrible FPS mechanics, and CPM are talking about the Dust - EVE link, I think I just found our problem. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
95
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:07:00 -
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i vote AEON AMADI the guy has some really good ideas related to this game and wants to get the real issues fixed and not nerfing weapons. he views the forums same as many of the mature people do and has a strong mind of ideas for the future of this game. |
Battle Android Trooper
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:12:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mind you all this is a lot of work.
and Last Night I got reminded why my familiarity with Eve Online was important as the discussion with the CSM on a number of subjects concerning the Dust Eve link came into question. Players leaving everyday because of slow respecs, terrible communication and overall terrible FPS mechanics, and CPM are talking about the Dust - EVE link, I think I just found our problem.
QFT +1
This game has so many fundamental issues right now that it can be a chore to play and people are worried about the Dust Eve link??? How about you fix my shotgun so that when I sneak up on someone and place it on the back of their neck and pull the trigger they die....or how about fixing the hit boxes so that if I shoot a person while they are hacking an objective the Null Cannon will not magically put a forcefield around them....or how about the rail that has magnetic properties which turn on as I run by it?
Fix the basics of the game first! If the fundamentals are broken who will care how "great" the Dust Eve connection is? This game is still about shooting the other person! |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
285
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:26:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:I would suggest you to talk about this later in time once you can constructively review how the current council has done for the DUST community and ultimately have an objective view on what is needed as a council member to be pro active. It is still all new and very recent, so let's give it all a bit more time before even thinking about what's next.
Eh, I disagree Hercules. Let them have their fun. Cubs is a solid choice, but he may not want it if it's way 2 much work behind the scenes. He likes to play, not as sure he'd be down coming home from work with his family and all and try to both lead TeamPlayers and get stuck in meetings. ReGnYum has proven numerous times to be a solid player, isn't a douchebag, and can speak with clarity on the issues. The guy paid to go to Fanfest, he's got the dedication and passion. If he was down, he'd have my vote. |
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2337
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mind you all this is a lot of work.
and Last Night I got reminded why my familiarity with Eve Online was important as the discussion with the CSM on a number of subjects concerning the Dust Eve link came into question.
lol...DUST / EVE link...
yea that's the problem with the game guys! Connecting them would save DUST and stop people from leaving
To be frank, the majority of DUST players don't care about EVE at this point. People just want the game to play at 30fps, to be able to hit what you're aiming at, and not play a slide show of a game cuz you didn't reset.
Are we gonna get an update on those issues mr CPM? |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
709
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:47:00 -
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Do you guys have to just look for any reason to ****post on the CPM? Wait, never mind, it must be in the rule book somewhere.
Anyway, there certainly was discussion on the forum about the EVE/Dust link the other day. Strangely, can you imagine, maybe some parts of CCP are looking at future items while other parts are working on current issues. No, can't be.
I really wish some of you numskulls could stop taking it so personally when your own particular hot button topic is not the only thing that other people think about.
It's pitiful to watch. |
Banned Scrub
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:51:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Do you guys have to just look for any reason to ****post on the CPM? Wait, never mind, it must be in the rule book somewhere.
Anyway, there certainly was discussion on the forum about the EVE/Dust link the other day. Strangely, can you imagine, maybe some parts of CCP are looking at future items while other parts are working on current issues. No, can't be.
I really wish some of you numskulls could stop taking it so personally when your own particular hot button topic is not the only thing that other people think about.
It's pitiful to watch.
You know what is pitiful to watch? This game DIE. |
Arron Rift
Commando Perkone Caldari State
152
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:54:00 -
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wait a minute, can we elect people to this thing? I was pretty sure it was going to remain "as is" until someone resigned or something :P
...But in that case, I hereby nominate Arron Rift to become a member of CPM, simply because he's awesome :D
:P |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
709
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:56:00 -
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Banned Scrub wrote:You know what is pitiful to watch? This game DIE.
Won't catch me arguing with that. Hoping it doesn't happen but I'll admit it looks a bit dicey at the moment... |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
861
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:58:00 -
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Arron Rift wrote:wait a minute, can we elect people to this thing? I was pretty sure it was going to remain "as is" until someone resigned or something :P
...But in that case, I hereby nominate Arron Rift to become a member of CPM, simply because he's awesome :D
:P
You should be able to elect, but since the election could be easily rigged (Alt accounts) and CCP couldn't find a way to make it so people wouldn't be able to abuse it, they decided to pick the CPM themselves, with probably the only good reps on there being Kain and Laurent. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2338
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:05:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Do you guys have to just look for any reason to ****post on the CPM? Wait, never mind, it must be in the rule book somewhere.
Anyway, there certainly was discussion on the forum about the EVE/Dust link the other day. Strangely, can you imagine, maybe some parts of CCP are looking at future items while other parts are working on current issues. No, can't be.
I really wish some of you numskulls could stop taking it so personally when your own particular hot button topic is not the only thing that other people think about.
It's pitiful to watch.
Lol future items... that's all this game runs on. Dreams of what can be done 2-3 years from now. |
howard sanchez
DUST University Ivy League
567
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:05:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:I would suggest you to talk about this later in time once you can constructively review how the current council has done for the DUST community and ultimately have an objective view on what is needed as a council member to be pro active. It is still all new and very recent, so let's give it all a bit more time before even thinking about what's next. GM Vegas, with respect, do you have a recommendation for something else we could do with our time?
Would you suggest we read Dev blogs? Or play planetary conquest? Or go spend our time & money playing other games?
You used to tell us to focus on testing and feedback. We did. Here we are. Now you tell us not to start thinking about effective representation because.....soon? Heard it all before sir.
If CCP wants its players to sit down, shut up and play dust you'll have to give us a more compelling reason than Soon |
howard sanchez
DUST University Ivy League
569
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:11:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Crash Monster wrote:Do you guys have to just look for any reason to ****post on the CPM? Wait, never mind, it must be in the rule book somewhere.
Anyway, there certainly was discussion on the forum about the EVE/Dust link the other day. Strangely, can you imagine, maybe some parts of CCP are looking at future items while other parts are working on current issues. No, can't be.
I really wish some of you numskulls could stop taking it so personally when your own particular hot button topic is not the only thing that other people think about.
It's pitiful to watch. Lol future items... that's all this game runs on. Dreams of what can be done 2-3 years from now. Exactly why Quickgloves raises this topic. The only thing we have to go on is hopes and dreams and our effort to formulate some method of getting CCP to respond to us. That would be the CPM. And while I personally think the current cast of CPM members are sound and well chosen, they have not been able to get CCP to communicate with its community in an effective manner.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5356
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:32:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Mind you all this is a lot of work.
and Last Night I got reminded why my familiarity with Eve Online was important as the discussion with the CSM on a number of subjects concerning the Dust Eve link came into question. lol...DUST / EVE link... yea that's the problem with the game guys! Connecting them would save DUST and stop people from leaving To be frank, the majority of DUST players don't care about EVE at this point. People just want the game to play at 30fps, to be able to hit what you're aiming at, and not play a slide show of a game cuz you didn't reset. Are we gonna get an update on those issues mr CPM?
Funny thing is though I get to see all the problems not just one or two or few full, the entire damn picture and you are looking at this problem the entirely wrong way, to bring things closer to context lets use a favorite tool the developers love using.
Player story.
"I feel nothing significant or when I participate in Planetary Conquest" -Dust 514 player.
Is a very terrible story I would not like to be true but it is currently.
Here is another story
"Dust 514? What's that? Why should I care?" -Eve Player
is another terrible story that needs rectifying.
So how do we fix that? We write a better story than currently and pursue that though various means.
"I feel I am apart of something bigger than myself and this game when I participate in Planetary Conquest. That my efforts means something for myself, my friends, my allies, and my enemies and they have a lasting impact beyond the borders of this game."
While a fantasy it's a dream worth pursuing, after all Eve has done this countless of times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Is one example. As it stands now there is no reason to do factional warfare and no reason to do planetary conquest as a Dust 514 player and furthermore there is probably not any reason to continue playing beyond SP cap and the newer story I am getting now a days people are no longer hitting their caps. Fixing controls is not going to make this game fun or worth continue playing, there have been dozens of shooters that had controls just right and never got anywhere worth of mention.
I also cannot worry about the core at the moment because CCP is very committed to that and that the CPM, are not game designers. We cannot fix that for them or for you. CCP will have to do the fixing and the most we, the community, can do is remind them it is still broken or less than stellar. In other words why waste so much time beating CCP with a dead horse? There are afterall, there quite a few fish to fry though many are not particularly bigger.
Either way its one of the many things and issues facing Dust and CPM has to tackle all aspects of the game and the CPM cannot just simply twiddle its thumbs while CCP fixes one part of the game at a time so like a hydra we have to branch out an attack every issues on every front when possible.
As you put it, nobody in Dust cares about Eve. A counter story to tell you back is nobody cares about Dust carries a far heavier weight. The link needs to start being built in some form or fashion quicker, the earlier you guys start getting hired by Eve players the quicker eve players can start affording to do our logistics the better your lives are all going to get. |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
710
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:38:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Lol future items... that's all this game runs on. Dreams of what can be done 2-3 years from now.
Dreams have strong juju. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3606
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:39:00 -
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lolCPM0
presentation meant more to CCP than actually gettin the right ppl the 1st time. only good ppl on there atm is Kain and Caz |
JonnyAugust
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
278
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:43:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:lolCPM0
presentation meant more to CCP than actually gettin the right ppl the 1st time. only good ppl on there atm is Kain and Caz
They went to the IRC and picked all the suckups, with the exceptions you mentioned.
I'd vote for you, Mavado/Numberz, any day of the week. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2342
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Funny thing is though I get to see all the problems not just one or two or few full, the entire damn picture and you are looking at this problem the entirely wrong way, to bring things closer to context lets use a favorite tool the developers love using. Player story. "I feel nothing significant or when I participate in Planetary Conquest" -Dust 514 player. Is a very terrible story I would not like to be true but it is currently. Here is another story "Dust 514? What's that? Why should I care?" -Eve Player is another terrible story that needs rectifying. So how do we fix that? We write a better story than currently and pursue that though various means. "I feel I am apart of something bigger than myself and this game when I participate in Planetary Conquest. That my efforts means something for myself, my friends, my allies, and my enemies and they have a lasting impact beyond the borders of this game." While a fantasy it's a dream worth pursuing, after all Eve has done this countless of times. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/arts/07eve.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0Is one example. As it stands now there is no reason to do factional warfare and no reason to do planetary conquest as a Dust 514 player and furthermore there is probably not any reason to continue playing beyond SP cap and the newer story I am getting now a days people are no longer hitting their caps. Fixing controls is not going to make this game fun or worth continue playing, there have been dozens of shooters that had controls just right and never got anywhere worth of mention. I also cannot worry about the core at the moment because CCP is very committed to that and that the CPM, are not game designers. We cannot fix that for them or for you. CCP will have to do the fixing and the most we, the community, can do is remind them it is still broken or less than stellar. In other words why waste so much time beating CCP with a dead horse? There are afterall, there quite a few fish to fry though many are not particularly bigger. Either way its one of the many things and issues facing Dust and CPM has to tackle all aspects of the game and the CPM cannot just simply twiddle its thumbs while CCP fixes one part of the game at a time so like a hydra we have to branch out an attack every issues on every front when possible. As you put it, nobody in Dust cares about Eve. A counter story to tell you back is nobody cares about Dust carries a far heavier weight. The link needs to start being built in some form or fashion quicker, the earlier you guys start getting hired by Eve players the quicker eve players can start affording to do our logistics the better your lives are all going to get.
Well that's not much of a problem. Both games should survive on its own merit. Why should EVE players care about DUST? Why should DUST players care about EVE.
They're only commonality is the universe they share. One is a FPS, the other is a PointAndClickMMOThingy (jk)
But seriously though. This topic is a matter of perspective. DUST to EVE players is a useless add on, and the hardcore EVE players won't ever care about it, and in their opinion from what I gather, they would prefer if DUST has no impact on EVE.
Likewise EVE is a useless add on for people who just want to shoot other people in the face. Personally I like the idea of DUST, and the connection with the 2 games, but at the rate this progression is going, I won't be here caring about it much longer. Not saying DUST is doomed, but it's only so long people can hold on to "SOON" and pipe dreams coming years from now while more short term issues aren't even talked about.
My personal issue right now, IS WHEN ARE OTHER HEAVY SUITS COMING? We have the same damned Amarr suit for over a year now.
I don't wanna hear about EVE / DUST connectivity when I can't get a simple ETA on stuff like this. Sorry, but i'm just being honest and frank. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3609
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:00:00 -
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JonnyAugust wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:lolCPM0
presentation meant more to CCP than actually gettin the right ppl the 1st time. only good ppl on there atm is Kain and Caz They went to the IRC and picked all the suckups, with the exceptions you mentioned.I'd vote for you, Mavado/Numberz, any day of the week.
my thoughts exactly. when i watch some of the current CPM 2 questions pop in my head and i know im not the only 1 to ask themselves these same 2 questions
1. Who are u? 2. What have u contributed to helping this game grow?
nova helps but he's also been on the suckup side alot |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5359
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:14:00 -
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I disagree with the separation clause and I am trying to get CCP to see as well.
Now couple sad facts I know in my heart to be true.
1. If Dust dies and well who gives a damn right?
2. If Eve dies somehow, Dust in itself is effectively dead to that end.
This is why the link should be pursued and not be that feared and I think Team Gridlock is beginning to take bolder steps based on what I have seen. Quite a few options are on the table and the thing we must be careful about is not to kill eve. It doesn't take much to destroy the economy over there. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
1134
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:15:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Do you guys have to just look for any reason to ****post on the CPM? Wait, never mind, it must be in the rule book somewhere.
Anyway, there certainly was discussion on the forum about the EVE/Dust link the other day. Strangely, can you imagine, maybe some parts of CCP are looking at future items while other parts are working on current issues. No, can't be.
I really wish some of you numskulls could stop taking it so personally when your own particular hot button topic is not the only thing that other people think about.
It's pitiful to watch. Haters gonna hate. Fanbois gonna fanboi.
I'm just here for the show. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
713
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:16:00 -
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Guys, I'll never be nominated, run, or elected for CPM but I have to tell you some of you have no reason to be a CPM other than some grand notion that you'll be able to fix everything somehow.
Judging by your posts you guys are way out of your league. When people on the CPM, or CCP, open up and communicate you crap all over them. You think your own opinion is the only one that matters. You think that anyone that wasn't here for closed beta doesn't matter. You think the desired majority of new players are simply nobodies who's opinions are useless. You think Eve and Dust don't have the ability, over time, to enhance each other.
You are idiots. You can all have a grand circle jerk and elect each other to the next CPM at some far off point in time in the future, but all you'll do is look after your own self interests and continue to be a drag on the game and the forums.
In response to "get gud"... "get mature". |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2343
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Posted - 2013.06.22 19:37:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I disagree with the separation clause and I am trying to get CCP to see as well.
Now couple sad facts I know in my heart to be true.
1. If Dust dies and well who gives a damn right?
2. If Eve dies somehow, Dust in itself is effectively dead to that end.
This is why the link should be pursued and not be that feared and I think Team Gridlock is beginning to take bolder steps based on what I have seen. Quite a few options are on the table and the thing we must be careful about is not to kill eve. It doesn't take much to destroy the economy over there.
If DUST dies, it has no effect on EVE. If EVE dies, then why bother with DUST... but EVE is nowhere near to dying though.
I don't know if you're implying that connecting the 2 games will save DUST somehow, but if that's what you're saying, I disagree.
It won't hurt DUST, but it's not gonna be the saving grace of it. Not by a long shot. If people don't wanna play the game, what difference is connecting them going to make.
I sense this is going to be a conversation that will end in circles.
I'm just gonna say that long term goals is well and good, but at this point, right now, nobody cares what's coming 2-3 years from now man. People wanna know when the rest of the suits coming, will the aiming ever be fixed, are dropships gonna be fixed, when are proto tanks coming, when are other racial weapons coming.
Short term goals CCP needs to communicate with people cuz guess what, PS4 is right around the corner. Thousands of people are absent cuz they playing TLoU... imagine when next gen games come out.
From a business perspective, you can't entice a rabbit without a carrot on a string. What do you think a rabbit will go for? The carrot a mile down the road, or the one that's dangling right there.
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Battle Android Trooper
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:19:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I disagree with the separation clause and I am trying to get CCP to see as well.
Now couple sad facts I know in my heart to be true.
1. If Dust dies and well who gives a damn right?
2. If Eve dies somehow, Dust in itself is effectively dead to that end.
This is why the link should be pursued and not be that feared and I think Team Gridlock is beginning to take bolder steps based on what I have seen. Quite a few options are on the table and the thing we must be careful about is not to kill eve. It doesn't take much to destroy the economy over there. If DUST dies, it has no effect on EVE. If EVE dies, then why bother with DUST... but EVE is nowhere near to dying though. I don't know if you're implying that connecting the 2 games will save DUST somehow, but if that's what you're saying, I disagree. It won't hurt DUST, but it's not gonna be the saving grace of it. Not by a long shot. If people don't wanna play the game, what difference is connecting them going to make. I sense this is going to be a conversation that will end in circles. I'm just gonna say that long term goals is well and good, but at this point, right now, nobody cares what's coming 2-3 years from now man. People wanna know when the rest of the suits coming, will the aiming ever be fixed, are dropships gonna be fixed, when are proto tanks coming, when are other racial weapons coming. Short term goals CCP needs to communicate with people cuz guess what, PS4 is right around the corner. Thousands of people are absent cuz they playing TLoU... imagine when next gen games come out. From a business perspective, you can't entice a rabbit without a carrot on a string. What do you think a rabbit will go for? The carrot a mile down the road, or the one that's dangling right there.
Wish more people could see this. Right now CCP has to fix the short term picture because if they do not, there won't be a long term.
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