I support the idea of damage based on speed, but not LAVs receiving damage- I drive LAVs all the time, and not to specifically run over reds. However, if they're already on my path, I'll put a tiny bit of effort into hitting them. Swerving to avoid the enemy is pretty stupid.

Btw, heavies aren't supposed to be AV suits, they're supposed to be more or less point defense- staying to guard a position, and killing what comes to them.

Heavies Use Forge guns and can take a LOT of enemy fire, even from some blaster tanks and missile tanks.

I was thinking 1 AV grenade/1 swarm launcher destroys 1 militia LAV. That OR remove the free onikuma

Heavies USe Forge guns and can take a LOT of enemy fire, even from some blaster tanks and missile tanks.

They have 2 uses: Point defense and AV.

Second, a heavy is supposed to be heavy armored, so much that some heavies run around with 1200+ HP. ALMOST the same as an LAV. Now if 2 LAV colission they recieve damage, i dont see why not against a Heavy.Plus its not like its hard to AVOID them.

Third:''I support the idea of damage based on speed, but not LAVs receiving damage- I drive LAVs all the time, and not to specifically run over reds. However, if they're already on my path, I'll put a tiny bit of effort into hitting them. Swerving to avoid the enemy is pretty stupid.''

You play like that but im pretty much talking about the players who ABUSE the LAV power to 1HKO anything.
About Swerving to avoid the enemy, well its a choice you would have to make, to kill or severly injure a heavy and recieve damage OR to avoid them. Its a fair deal...

BTW i play as scout, just in case someone says im saying this Biased XD

SO you buy a 150k Proto suit and hope for a gg.
On the other side of the field , a Trollbro calls in a militia LAV while wearing a BP or a milita suit, hoping to get some easy kills.
And he does get you and half of your squad.

This has to stop.

As a dedicated DUST514 player i think this is the main issue at hand right now.
Pinpointing the issues:
-LAV 1HKO Roadkills
-LAV massive resistance for a freakn jeep.

When and advanced FORGE GUN with complex damage mods shoots an LAV and DOES NOT kill it i know we have a problem here.

What i propose is:
-The damage dealt by the LAV should be proportional to its SPEED, same as it would be in real life.
Example: Full speed :1HKO
Mid Speed: -+ of enemy HP
Slow Speed : -+ of enemy HP

This way you wont get killed by a LAV that barely touched you while going in reverse.

-LAV vs Heavy: LAV would RECEIVE DAMAGE depending on its speed if he runs over a heavy.
Full speed: LAV looses 3/4 health
Mid Speed: -+ of LAV HP is lost
Slow Speed: -+ of LAV HP is lost

This way LAV will think twice before trying to run over what are supposed to be the best AV suits in the game. (I did say ''supposed'' lol)

-Balance Shield/armor/Speed depending on the cost of the LAV,specially militia and Standard.
MILITA+Standard LAV's should be slower and resist a LOT less damage. Less HP.


I can live with someone with a Proto LAV running me over and getting an easy kill, but a 600k sp character with a milita LAV running heavies over with no consequence or barely touching a proto logi and killing him is not something i'd like to have to adapt to.

Please comment on your thought. Ty for your time.

Step one: this

Step two: stop bitchin.


Peace, godin

OP -never happen... u think this is accidental? u bring u F'in PROTO to pubstomp n00bs with a STD gun on a MLT suit and get mad when they figure out HOW TO KILL U... LOLZZZZZ ... CCP DID balance it, now stop whining. dont wear it if u dont want to lose it. Stop using PRO in pubs anyway, u bunch of TRY-HARD SISSIES!!!

I think the jeeps are finally balanced. They used to be so cheap and worthless before. You could one shot them with any militia swarm or forge.

I know the murder taxi business seems to be booming but you just need to adapt that's all. Start carrying AV grenades. I cannot tell you how many suckers i've popped with the EXO's, plus it's an easy 90 points with possible 50-100 if there are passengers.

People got spoiled with the last build. A level 2 av nade, militia swarms or forge could ohk most lavs and now they require a liitle investment. Proximity mines were wayyyy op against lavs and got nerfed. Lavs are still easy kills. Prototype are the only ones that offer a challenge. I spec'd into anti vehicle and i can solo them. Thats the way it should be imo. But if ccp wants to make them ohk's too, then fine by me.

I think the jeeps are finally balanced. They used to be so cheap and worthless before. You could one shot them with any militia swarm or forge.

I know the murder taxi business seems to be booming but you just need to adapt that's all. Start carrying AV grenades. I cannot tell you how many suckers i've popped with the EXO's, plus it's an easy 90 points with possible 50-100 if there are passengers.

Proxi mines.....op? That don't even sound right

well thats the problem, everybody always says: well equip AV grenades to deal with LAV's, equip Flux grenades to deal with Proto caldaris, equip swarm launchers to deal with tanks , equip forgeguns to deal with dropships...

Dude the mere face someone can kill ANYTHING with 0 money spent ( standard - default suit + milita LAV) is just broken i say.
Before they wouldn't do it unless they had some skills into LAV because the jeeps would get destroyed easily by AV grenades.

You dont need all of that stuff for every lav, but why should you be able to destroy everything with an av nade? Every team is better with at least one good antivehicle player. In pub matches its just luck of the draw.

Those militia lavs arent as good as youre making them out to be. 0 skills gets you about 3 kills and 5 deaths by the end of the match. Its just annoying when its you that got killed. You feel cheated out of a fair fight. I get your pain.

You couldnt drive an lav anywhere close to even one of them initially and it was instant death. They were nerfed later and made reasonable.

What were you driving may I ask? Because I don't remember any point where the proxi was over effective

Guristas saga since they came out. Dont know what to tell you. I remember them clearly.

Proxi mines used to give everyone hell. So they nerfed them. Now, AV grenades are now giving everyone hell (except the scrub assaulters). Where the hell is their nerf?

Mods/skills?