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Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits
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Posted - 2013.06.20 19:21:00 -
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Swarms of hundreds of drones attacking one team or acting as a third party target for both teams.
Drones offer no ISK significance, only WP/SP and maybe salvage drops - to keep the economy on the level.
Racial infantry squads in red. Collective on-field dropsuit Meta Level is the standard by which opponents are determined.
Infiltrating waves of AI HAVs, etc.
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Terry Turner
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.22 17:28:00 -
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PvE was promesie last year, what happened to the code they played at fanfest in 2012! |
Ray Poe
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:02:00 -
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Terry Turner wrote:PvE was promesie last year, what happened to the code they played at fanfest in 2012!
Good point, that demo was soooo cool though. |
Wrath Red-Feather
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:16:00 -
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I think it should be based on gear. So, lets say your squad is mostly all proto. Then the drones will have "proto status" or hard difficulty. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:52:00 -
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At the risk of scaring some folks I think they could borrow from Eve for some PvE ideas.
If you had to earn the right to tackle harder missions you'd be able to have people segregate themselves simply through completing lower level PvE "missions" to qualify for higher level ones. I'm guessing that if you did not squad up and did not work together then the E would kick the P teams butt -- so part of getting through the missions might depend on who you ended up online with.
I still think some other E issues could just be built right in. They could give us the option of using a slot for a nanite based rare element extraction system -- pulling planet specific materials out slowly during the course of the battle. Of course, we'd need markets, and maybe manufacturing, and so on all the way back to the core game play fixes that are apparently the current order of business.
So, no, I'm not suggesting we stop focusing on current issues... |
LEOn Mendez
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:23:00 -
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The pve aspect of a mmofps is a must have. Without it there really is nothing for new players to grind before heading to the battlefield. |
Greg FREESEr
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:07:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:I had a dream this game became 75vs75 it was fun. But I can only dream...
That is my dream also. Huge battlefields of mercs dying. Mass payouts. |
Konohamaru Sarutobi
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:09:00 -
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Princeps Marcellus wrote:How should it be implemented? Should there be one universal difficulty level? Should the "level" of the drones be totally random? Etc., etc. Have at it!
Ooh! Also mining. Do the same theorycrafting with mining. Should it be someting that's automated by districts, or, as an extension of EvEO, would you like to actually do the mining yourself (and put the laser rifle to use finally)?
You will be a "nana" before PVE comes to Dust |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.23 04:40:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Cosgar wrote:Gotta get PVP right first... It's possible it would be a different team, at least, PvE and PvP are often developed somewhat separately in other games. I suppose that's often a function of those modes being separate single and multiplayer modes of course.
I've seen many a game that got PVE right, but failed miserably when it came to PVP and vise versa. In the majority of those games, there wasn't such a high level of risk vs reward that New Eden has so I hope that it's one team doing both PVE and PVP or both teams are actively sharing ideas. The last thing we need is a game mechanic that's acceptable in PVE being OP in PVP. |
Davey Newcome
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:28:00 -
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LEOn Mendez wrote:Here are a few examples of what the OP is talking about
Whats that supposed to mean? I think I get it. |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.06.23 06:39:00 -
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Princeps Marcellus wrote:How should it be implemented? Should there be one universal difficulty level? Should the "level" of the drones be totally random? Etc., etc. Have at it!
Ooh! Also mining. Do the same theorycrafting with mining. Should it be someting that's automated by districts, or, as an extension of EvEO, would you like to actually do the mining yourself (and put the laser rifle to use finally)?
It isn't an if, just a when.
There are already two modes planned. One is a PC mode where the SI installations get invaded by drones. The other is a general mode that's a coop last man standing variation that sounds similar to Halo's (Reach) firefight mode. I'm personally excited about the latter. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:12:00 -
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I liked the PvE in Mass Effect 3, it was very solid and entertaining co-op messing around with various abilities, combos, etc. That was the only good part of Mass Effect 3.
I think of the separate teams thing sometimes because I know the team that did the multiplayer in ME3 was separate from the single player team. It showed too. The Multiplayer team was responsive to balance issues, in close contact with the community, and generally enthusiastic about constantly tweaking balance and releasing new content. There were balanced updates... weekly or some such. Considering it was just a "mode" for what was mostly a single-player franchise, it was great that they had such keen attention to weapon balance and other issues.
Of course, the squads in ME3 are much smaller than the possible squads in Dust. It makes me wonder if initial PvE might be better suited to 6 person squads initially, just for balancing and testing. Horde modes typically don't have horde vs. 16-player teams after all. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
956
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Posted - 2013.06.23 11:14:00 -
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LEOn Mendez wrote:Here are a few examples of what the OP is talking about -planetside spam *snipped* Dust Community...Thanks[/center]
They already said Planetside 2 definitely won't have PvE. Jesus tap-dancing Christ, you can't even spam for another game right. |
Shrapnels
The Order 1886
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Posted - 2013.06.23 12:58:00 -
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this article briefly touches on PvE
http://www.destructoid.com/ccp-confident-about-dust-514-s-five-year-future-255455.phtml |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:15:00 -
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I remember reading that. Unfortunately, five-year future is very.... broad. The entire Mass Effect series released within less than five years (ME1 = Nov 07, ME3 = Mar 12). |
Corpus Aeterna
R'lyeh Bound
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Posted - 2013.06.27 00:37:00 -
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I should of come to this thread first lol. They honestly just need to get PVE in. At this point I would take squad size PVE. Given the current limitations it would allow for more drones anyway, but would hopefully allow quicker implementation. Could even throw together some tight ship/corridor style maps. We don't need fancy, we just need something else to do.
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