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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:06:00 -
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EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that. |
Beld Errmon
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
649
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:09:00 -
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I doubt it, they are probably working on a bunch of changes no one wants and redesigning things that aren't broken. |
steadyhand amarr
Amarr Immortal Volunteers
712
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:10:00 -
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I think I know like 3-4 brits that play. I never run into any of them sucks :-( |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
215
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:13:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players
You are aware when your post was made in EVE-Time, yeah? It's both shortly after downtime and n a weekday. Check again this evening when people get out of work\school.
There are PLENTY of us brits\EUs around. Just not in the middle of the day. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
636
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:13:00 -
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Slow Monday? Everybody playing the latest new and shiny? The exceedingly short attention span of the average console gamer? People will come back after some new stuff is released. Remember, CCP said they weren't going to push marketing until the end of this year. Consider this an extended beta phase while they work to get things balanced and new content finished. |
Benari Kalidima
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:14:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Remember, CCP said they weren't going to push marketing until the end of this year.
Source? |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
649
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:18:00 -
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Benari Kalidima wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Remember, CCP said they weren't going to push marketing until the end of this year. Source?
Have you seen any ads? I see them for EVE, I haven't seen any for Dust. |
Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
47
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:21:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players
It's Monday afternoon in the EU.
Schools, Colleges, Universities aren't finished for the day.
Some people actually have jobs.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
636
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:23:00 -
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Benari Kalidima wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:Remember, CCP said they weren't going to push marketing until the end of this year. Source?
CCP Pokethulhu, their marketing director. It was in some interview or presentation. I think it was around Fan Fest when he showed off the concept ad where the dust mercs form and crumble into dust. |
Mechoj Nomreps
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
21
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:27:00 -
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Vavilia Lysenko wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players It's Monday afternoon in the EU. Schools, Colleges, Universities aren't finished for the day. Some people actually have jobs.
This,
If I was free now I actually would be playing. |
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
358
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:35:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players You are aware when your post was made in EVE-Time, yeah? It's both shortly after downtime and n a weekday. Check again this evening when people get out of work\school. There are PLENTY of us brits\EUs around. Just not in the middle of the day.
I know what I'm talking about because i actually live in EU. And believe me when i say that its timezone's dead. today yes. It's monday and yes, there may be more guys during the weekend. But the fact remains. |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation
General Tso's Alliance
892
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:37:00 -
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You say fact. I hear troll. |
psyanyde
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:38:00 -
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While bugs and stuff play a factor I'd imagine
I think most people are forgetting that the Northern Hemisphere is basically in Summer now. And yes seasons do play a factor as well for most MMO's or whatever.
Looking at the Server Status & Populations of a myriad of different online games at the SOE site, populations are relatively low across the board. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
358
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:42:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:You say fact. I hear troll.
No, really, I'm just stating a fact. If you set your battle server to "Europe" you'll know what I'm talking about. Always the same guys every battle.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
358
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:43:00 -
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psyanyde wrote:While bugs and stuff play a factor I'd imagine I think most people are forgetting that the Northern Hemisphere is basically in Summer now. And yes seasons do play a factor as well for most MMO's or whatever. Looking at the Server Status & Populations of a myriad of different online games at the SOE site, populations are relatively low across the board.
That's correct. But imo, that's not the only reason. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege
General Tso's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:46:00 -
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Get a job.  |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
358
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:48:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:Get a job.
Unfortunately, my job allows me to play now and from 11:00 PM (local)
Friendly reminder:
EU timezone is mainly GMT +2 |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
687
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:52:00 -
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Whilst the game currently has many problems, this is normal for all online games - the EU timezone isn't dead; everyone's at school/work, duh! |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
358
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:58:00 -
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Django Quik wrote: everyone's at school/work, duh!
Incorrect.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3857
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:58:00 -
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Don't worry, we have Gallente items and dropships that we can buy with AUR, everything is going to be just fine |
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Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
158
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Posted - 2013.06.17 15:38:00 -
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Post lacks any knowledge of PS3 this weekend.
Last of Us
BF3 x2 weekend.
2 very good reasons why nearly every game on the PS3/PSN would have aken a hit over the week end. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
971
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Posted - 2013.06.17 15:57:00 -
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DOOOOOOOOOOM! |
Golda Go
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
41
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Posted - 2013.06.17 15:57:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Whilst the game currently has many problems, this is normal for all online games - the EU timezone isn't dead; everyone's at school/work, duh!
Its summer....... |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3861
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Posted - 2013.06.17 15:58:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.06.17 15:59:00 -
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Golda Go wrote:Django Quik wrote:Whilst the game currently has many problems, this is normal for all online games - the EU timezone isn't dead; everyone's at school/work, duh! Its summer.......
winter is coming |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
381
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:02:00 -
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On that note, I'm trying to build a League of Infamy EU team. At this time we don't have enough to build a self sufficient team.
For now if you are interested come by "sand castles" which is Molon Labe's public channel. This is in the early stages.
You can send me an ingame mail, but I'd rather you send it to Raylan Scott (my Eve character) for better mail management. |
ReGnYuM
Not another AR SCRUB
213
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:08:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Slow Monday? Everybody playing the latest new and shiny? The exceedingly short attention span of the average console gamer? People will come back after some new stuff is released. Remember, CCP said they weren't going to push marketing until the end of this year. Consider this an extended beta phase while they work to get things balanced and new content finished.
Sigh
How do fanbois do it!
Commercail release = Extended beta phase
Lolololololol |
PlanetSide2 F2PonPS4
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:21:00 -
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My in depth report
Numbers explained |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
687
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:28:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Django Quik wrote: everyone's at school/work, duh! Incorrect.
How so? In the UK school doesn't stop for summer holidays until another couple of weeks. Only Uni students are already off. Everyone else who has a job with normal hours is only just finishing work now. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
636
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:00:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:How do fanbois do it!
I don't think it takes near the persistence and effort of being a trollboi. 
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Raizor Feddie
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
87
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:40:00 -
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I was waiting for the excuses. But the game honestly only hits 5k at peak times, whereas it USED to hit almost 10k. How far the adequate have fallen. |
Washlee
Not Guilty
EoN.
168
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:58:00 -
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When im on theres always 7000-8000 Players playing |
Wolfica
Planetary Response Organization
52
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:04:00 -
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I once saw a dust 514 trailer on tv, it was kool even though I had already seen it on youtube |
Blammmo
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
108
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:19:00 -
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Low player count = thrown into more halfway finished matches = more people leaving |
Geth Massredux
Greatness Achieved Through Training
EoN.
402
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:20:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players
Are you disappointed? **** happens right |
Musta Tornius
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
390
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:24:00 -
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Washlee wrote:When im on theres always 7000-8000 Players playing
Based on eve-offline you haven't played for a while or are lying. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
360
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:25:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players Are you disappointed? **** happens right
I sincerly don't see any point in your reply. Anyway yes, I am disappointed. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
177
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:28:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Washlee wrote:When im on theres always 7000-8000 Players playing Based on eve-offline you haven't played for a while or are lying.
I don't think he means at this moment. He probably plays at the height of the American time zones. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
360
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Posted - 2013.06.17 18:31:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Musta Tornius wrote:Washlee wrote:When im on theres always 7000-8000 Players playing Based on eve-offline you haven't played for a while or are lying. I don't think he means at this moment. He probably plays at the height of the American time zones.
and that's why the EU time zone is dying, not the US one.... |
Travis Snyders
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:38:00 -
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Around 5000 with my times. Pleanty of players, almost as many as MAG has currently. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1978
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:44:00 -
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http://eve-offline.net/
5351 |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
643
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:49:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://eve-offline.net/
5351
still going down hill only once was 8000 players mark beat in the last month and all the spikes are sloping downwards. thou I do think the graphs going for longer length of time are broken. |
Battle Android Trooper
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.06.17 22:58:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://eve-offline.net/
5351 still going down hill only once was 8000 players mark beat in the last month and all the spikes are sloping downwards. thou I do think the graphs going for longer length of time are broken.
The game is taking a hit on its numbers. I log on at different times a day and usually see around 5500 to 6k on the game, if that. Add to that, in my experience I am the only one on my friends list who even still plays Dust. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
643
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Posted - 2013.06.17 23:06:00 -
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Battle Android Trooper wrote:ladwar wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://eve-offline.net/
5351 still going down hill only once was 8000 players mark beat in the last month and all the spikes are sloping downwards. thou I do think the graphs going for longer length of time are broken. The game is taking a hit on its numbers. I log on at different times a day and usually see around 5500 to 6k on the game, if that. Add to that, in my experience I am the only one on my friends list who even still plays Dust.
the numbers are going back down to open beta levels from the spike from release. guess those are the only ones staying for now I guess. |
Travis Snyders
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2013.06.18 00:25:00 -
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I created a video of my concerns |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
361
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Posted - 2013.06.18 00:27:00 -
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oh no please stop the planet side thing! that game is much worse |
Avinash Decker
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
46
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Posted - 2013.06.18 00:40:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://eve-offline.net/
5351
The game averaged around 6500 to 7500 players a day that was about 2 to 4 weeks ago now its 5000 to 6000 players a day. On Sundays where the population is usually the highest, it was 5900 players yesterday when its usually a few thousand more than that. If you check the past month chart the population kept decreasing and it never went up again besides getting slightly more players on Sunday. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust |
Peoples Champs
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 22:51:00 -
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Right now 4109
Not good. Still waiting for aim fixes to start the client again. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1317
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Posted - 2013.06.19 22:59:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players
You posted at 2pm
Idiot
Most ppl are at work or coming home from work and eating or doing something else, not everyone jumps straight onto dust
When i get on its about 6k |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1678
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:03:00 -
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The only reason the population is low atm is because there are psn problems, and not everyone can get on. I usually see over 6000 |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1678
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:05:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://eve-offline.net/
5351 still going down hill only once was 8000 players mark beat in the last month and all the spikes are sloping downwards. thou I do think the graphs going for longer length of time are broken.
Every game has a graph like that around launch. Huge population spike around release, then it dribbles down after some people realize the game isn't for them yet.
So don't be alarmed by this- I've seen it tons of times. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
837
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:ladwar wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://eve-offline.net/
5351 still going down hill only once was 8000 players mark beat in the last month and all the spikes are sloping downwards. thou I do think the graphs going for longer length of time are broken. Every game has a graph like that around launch. Huge population spike around release, then it dribbles down after some people realize the game isn't for them yet. So don't be alarmed by this- I've seen it tons of times.
Yup, it happened with eve in the early days.
Eve's secret, release regular expansions that add to the game experience.
CCP are the only game company ever thats released an mmo and saw a steady rise in players over 10 years. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
364
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:17:00 -
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EnglishSnake wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players You posted at 2pm Idiot Most ppl are at work or coming home from work and eating or doing something else, not everyone jumps straight onto dust When i get on its about 6k
Learn geography, idiot. We're not everyone in the same timezone. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3557
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Posted - 2013.06.19 23:57:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players
fight each other?.......maybe? #justsayin |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
364
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:13:00 -
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Mavado V Noriega wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:EU timezone is dying... I wonder if ccp knows that.
Errata Corrige:
They're mostly Asian Timezone players and early American players fight each other?.......maybe? #justsayin
I was just letting ccp (and the entire community) know that one of the typical eu playtime's "dead". You say fight each others, but you know it's kinda disappointing when you want to fight on the EU server and you just see the same 12 players. That's just my opinion, so inb4trolls |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
543
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:17:00 -
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make fighting cronos less laggy, please. i dont hate cronos; i hate their lag. it had to be done to make pc tolerable. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
CRONOS.
364
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Posted - 2013.06.20 00:21:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:make fighting cronos less laggy, please. i dont hate cronos; i hate their lag. it had to be done to make pc tolerable.
Yup! it's not that you're fighting cronos. It's probably because you're playing on the EU battle server. It's been weeks, but no one really cared... FPS between continents is never a good idea. |
Mikael Murray
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.20 23:33:00 -
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4131 right now.
Not prime time yet. |
PlanetsideTwo F2PonPS4
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:16:00 -
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The numbers are not indicitive of how many players are playing.
At least 15% of players are mcc afking
So you do the math. |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University
Ivy League
84
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:37:00 -
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at least 80% of all statistics are just made up on the spot.
Also, I think it's a bit more important to examine this compared to player count BEFORE the game went into "Release", because for all intents and purposes Open Beta was ... kind of release. Everyone who really wanted to play DUST 514 or was dedicated to it had -already- been playing it, and most of the numbers from when it went to release is a lot of various people trying the game for a short while, deciding it wasn't for them and moving on.
The game is more or less designed from the ground up for a relatively small player base ((CCP designs toward Niche markets, not mass market)) and their game can manage with around the player count we had in Open Beta. The time right after "release" is always the largest boom to most FPS games, and any comparison to that time period of a few weeks is inevitably going to lead to the perception of a heavy drop off in player count and a "dying game".
The game will probably level out in player count with around 5 - 6 k players during prime time, and will more than likely slowly grow with each large expansion. CCP favors a VERY VERY longterm approach to making games, and for them the important metrics aren't release player count, as it is for many games, but the player count a year or even two years after release.
In this respect CCP may be perceived as moving very slowly compared to most FPS games which release, and by now are getting a DLC pack or two.
To say the game is dying when it is going through a similar process ALL games go through is somewhat disingenuous, and the important thing to remember is that player count around release / huge patch is Always higher than the norm, and that number always deflates over the weeks that follows until it stabilizes around the actual playerbase that constantly palys this game. (Often with a few more players sticking with the game.)
Also, to that one person that released a chart showing player count tapering off to nothing by July, please learn Statistics.
Extrapolation is a Crime, and also on the subject, No, you can't "warm up" a slot machine either. |
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Renolissa
Academy Inferno
CRONOS.
540
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Posted - 2013.06.21 20:42:00 -
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Today i see only 3897 players, 15pm + 4 my time zone. many players leave dust because this game is very laggy. I think i leave this game to. |
Planetside2onPS4
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 06:58:00 -
[62] - Quote
Video of OP's concerns |
Terry Turner
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:19:00 -
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HELLO 5120 right now. So yes dust is succeeding. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
656
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Posted - 2013.06.22 18:28:00 -
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DOOM DOOM DOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!! prepare for the end I say! or just pre release level of players |
Davey Newcome
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:51:00 -
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4904 right now PRIME TIME east coast usa |
Dao Ferret
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
93
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:58:00 -
[66] - Quote
~5.1k players now ... a more important graph than the one of players on-line now is the "Newborn player graph" at the bottom of http://www.eve-offline.net/?server=dust . Its showing ~20k new players being created every day (more or less).
Either they are not being retained, they are alts being created, or they are letting SP accrue so they can do something. THAT number is the more important and interesting one to look at and address. Why is a game with 20k+ new players being created in a day merely showing an average of ~5k-6k players max at any one time?
Edit: Apologies ... we're down to ~15k new players daily now. |
Greg FREESEr
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:29:00 -
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I would say they are alts. How many are getting banned daily? |
oso tiburon
The Generals
EoN.
28
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:31:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I think I know like 3-4 brits that play. I never run into any of them sucks :-(
run into lazzy bass or fighting irish .... both mics just like me nasty but yes we are losing euros |
Greg FREESEr
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 05:53:00 -
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3128 on right now. Not good |
Planetside2
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 18:23:00 -
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Yeah the numbers are dropping like white blood cells in a merc with aids.
Stop thr hemmoraging ccp. |
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Kenny Robertson
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.23 20:38:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:The only reason the population is low atm is because there are psn problems, and not everyone can get on. I usually see over 6000
Seriously when was the last time you seen it hit 6000?
They need to launch another event or something. |
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